MACHIAS, Maine — The Maine Sheriffs’ Association agreed Thursday to investigate concerns raised about Penobscot County Sheriff Glenn Ross revealing to his friend the Rev. Robert Carlson that he was under investigation.
Carlson took his own life within hours of speaking with Ross twice by phone.
Washington County Sheriff Donnie Smith says he will end his affiliation with the Maine Sheriffs’ Association if Ross continues as the group’s president.
Smith said he is concerned about what he terms Ross’ “unethical conduct” in informing Carlson that he was under investigation by state police for alleged child sex abuse. Ross and Carlson, who jumped to his death from the Penobscot Narrows Bridge on Nov. 13, 2011, were longtime friends.
Ross said Thursday evening that Smith is “misinformed” and “wrong” in his allegations of ethical misconduct. Ross said he never shared with Carlson any specifics of the investigation beyond telling him that, until it had run its course, Carlson would have to relinquish his public access to the county jail as a member of the jail’s board of visitors.
“If I had failed to act, I would have been in dereliction of duty, as the safety of the inmates is one of my major responsibilities as sheriff,” he said. “There were no details shared, not who was investigating or for what. I just told him there was [an anonymous] letter of complaint that was widely circulated and that I would have to restrict his access. I told Bob that I could not reveal any details; that would be improper.”
The Waldo County Sheriff’s Department, which investigated Carlson’s death, issued a report Wednesday that indicated Ross had called Carlson about the investigation “because he was a very good friend and he did not want [Carlson] to be blind sided.” The report does not mention that Ross was concerned about Carlson’s access to the jail.
But Waldo County Sheriff Scott Story told the BDN on Thursday that it apparently was an oversight that Ross’ concerns about Carlson’s jail access were not mentioned in the report.
Story said he was at the scene on Nov. 13 when Ross showed up at the Penobscot Narrows Bridge just before Carlson’s body was recovered. At that time, Story said Ross informed him about the investigation into Carlson and also told him about having informed Carlson about it. Story said that Ross explained to him that morning that he had felt obligated to tell Carlson he was under investigation because he wanted to limit Carlson’s visits to the jail, which he had access to as a member of the jail’s board of visitors.
Story said he was just at the scene to observe and he assumed that Ross also later relayed the same information to the detectives investigating the case, but apparently that did not happen.
Story said he wanted to set the record straight because he was upset with the way some members of the media were making it sound like Ross had changed his story.
“I know some people are going to say it’s just a sheriff protecting another sheriff, but that’s not the case,” Story said. “I am a man of integrity and these are the facts.”
On Thursday, Ross said the statements he gave to state police investigators after Carlson’s suicide were “very emotional.”
“I was in tears,” he said. “We had just pulled his body out of the water.”
Ross claims Smith is more interested in creating “a media event” with his allegations than being a champion for law enforcement ethics.
“I don’t respect him for what he does with the media,” Ross said. “I’ve crossed no ethical lines. I have done nothing in any way that interfered with an investigation.”
At a meeting in Vassalboro on Thursday, the sheriffs attending agreed that the association would conduct an inquiry into Ross’ conduct, a step required by the group’s bylaws when a member raises a complaint about another member. The three-member inquiry board is being headed by Hancock County Sheriff Bill Clark, who could not be reached Thursday afternoon for comment. Other members will include Cumberland Country Sheriff Kevin Joyce and Knox County Sheriff Donna Dennison.
Kennebec County Sheriff Randall Liberty, who is the association’s first vice president, said Ross attended and conducted Thursday morning’s regularly scheduled monthly meeting but left the meeting when Smith’s concerns were discussed. Liberty said he expects the investigation being coordinated by Clark will require a week.
In an email sent late Wednesday night to Maine Sheriffs’ Association Executive Director Mary-Anne LaMarre, Smith said he is “calling for the removal of Sheriff Ross as president of the Maine Sheriffs’ Association.”
“Sheriff Ross clearly violated ethical standards by tipping off a sexual [predator],” Smith said in his email. “If Sheriff Ross does not step down, I will resign my association with MSA.”
Smith said Thursday that Ross should not have tipped Carlson about the investigation.
“If you’re investigating someone, they know it or in some situations you are required to tell them they are being investigated,” Smith said. “But it’s standard that you not inform people that they are under investigation by other agencies. That’s not normal.”
Smith took exception to a statement made Wednesday by Deputy Attorney General William Stokes in which Stokes said Ross didn’t violate any laws in tipping off Carlson.
“Stokes’ explanation of this is beyond belief,” Smith said Thursday.
Stokes said Thursday that Ross made a “judgment call” in deciding to speak with Carlson. “Whether you agree with it or not, no laws were violated,” Stokes said.
Aroostook County Sheriff Jim Madore, a past president of the Maine Sheriffs’ Association, said Thursday that Smith is entitled to his opinion.
“I know Glenn Ross,” Madore said. “And I know that, if the investigating agency, which in this case is the criminal investigation division of the state police, would come forth and say that Sheriff Ross hindered their investigation, I know that Glenn Ross would step down as president of the association.”
The state police investigation into the sex abuse allegations against Carlson is continuing and should be completed in the next month, the lead investigator, Maine State Police Sgt. Jeffrey Love, said earlier this week.
The State Police believed Carlson was still a sheriffs department employee and contacted Ross. Most likely as a courtesy to Ross. Ross in turn tipped of Carlson to the upcoming investigation. This happened after Ross promised to keep the information to himself.
I agree that Carlson most likely would have killed himself regardless if Ross told him that very minute or if he had been approached by the State Police a few days later. But that is not the point. The point is that Ross as the Sheriff should know that you do not tip off people who are the subject of upcoming police investigations, even if you do know them, were friends with them or used to employ them.
What should happen to Ross? Well, an FBI agent tipped off Whitey Bulger that he was about to be indicted and that FBI agent served time in Federal Prison. Perhaps Ross does not deserve prison but his ability to be sheriff appears to be very much in question. It also appears that there will now be a trust issue between the State Police and the Penobscot County Sheriffs Office. That is not a good thing.
He should at least be charged with tampering with a police investigation. Because of his actions Carlson will never pay for the crimes which he is accused of.
I agree. There is not way to know if Carlson would have cooperated with the State Police when they showed up at his door for a chat. What we do know is that they never had a chance to ask Carlson anything because he had killed himself and that it appears he did so because he was told of what was coming his way by Sheriff Ross.
And under which section of the law are you saying Ross violated?
Unless you have looked up the law, don’t bother claiming Ross broke it.
Let’s just let this sheriff continue to have this type of behavior. Let his friends continue getting special treatment and informed of instead of letting the investigations proceed. The fact is he has lost all respect from those in the law enforcement community, trust in the public and penobscot county government. That is why we have a Liberal system where we complain of folks getting slaps on the wrist , families leaving the courthouse not getting justice. Let’s continue to have lax laws so we can have criminals back on the street that is what the liberals want. They want Maine to continue to be soft on crime. Mr. Ross needs to turn in his badge and let someone who will be tough on crime do his job.
“Let his friends continue getting special treatment and informed of instead of letting the investigations proceed.”
According to Deputy Attorney General Stokes, police inform suspects all the time that they are under investigation.
Yes they do. However it was not the Maine State Police who informed Carlson, the detectives from that agency that were going to begin the investigation. It appears it was the sheriff who gave Carlson a heads up. Now perhaps you think that is fine, and that is your opinion and you have a ar right to it. Many of us however think it was not right for the Sheriff to do that and that it effectively denied the MSP of ever getting to talk to Carlson at all.
Let’s hear what the MSP have to say about it.
Why do you suppose we have not heard anything at this point? Do you suppose it have something to do with conducting an investigation in the correct manner. Not revealing information in a haphazard manner?
I agree partly. But he did just pay with his life. Would we have sent him to the death chamber? We know that answer. But this man really did the justice himself, even though a bit harsh. He played judge, jury, executioner himself. Isn’t that taking responsibility? Isn’t that what we all want to do? Take a pedophile off the streets? He took himself off the street. Long-term. Wow..
Suicide is the coward’s way out. He should have stood like a man and answered the allegations against him. Not that I am too terribly upset at the outcome, if in fact he was guilty.
Carlson was also well aware of the way child molesters are treated in prison and in this case jumping off a bridge was the easy way out..
you betcha~
I agree with Terence, but remeber Maine justice system belives 1 month per charge and return Mr. Pedophile to the street. So Carlson wouldent have done any time towards it
It’s interesting how the mob clamors for “justice” against the accused and anyone associated with the accused, while the investigation isn’t even complete yet. You don’t know for a fact that Carlson even committed the alleged crimes, and yet you’ve got the noose hanging from the branch. Still, you claim the moral superiority over someone like Ross, who has served the community faithfully for a couple decades.
I think the Sheriff’s actions, at least the ones reported in the BDN, are nor very ethical. However, “tampering with a police investigation” is not a crime in Maine. Find one in 17A and I would suport it, but I cant seem to find one that he violated. If you do or some one else does, let me know. Hindering aprehension doesn’t fit as no one was getting arrested and obstructing government administration doesn’t fit as he did not use any physical force or threats of violence. But then again im not a lawyer or cop so maybe someone on here could find something.
I dont claim to know the law, certainly not the way that Mr. Robbins or JD seem to know it and try every day to prove everyone that posts on here a fool. However, isnt it justice that the police were looking for when starting the investigation into the child misconduct? That being the case, if the sheriff telling Carlson about the investigation means that justice can never be served, wouldnt that be considered Obstruction? Again, i am not a lawyer, dont know all the fine print or the loopholes so man lawyers find to get criminals out of jail, but i would think it would somehow fall under this.
Unless you are a cop?
He should also be immediately terminated from his position. He has already been asked to resign and refused showing us all the class that he obviously never had. Obstruction of justice would be the first charge i could think of coming from the head of the Sherriff association..yeah, class act all the way i guess.
yes he did..and saved this state a lot of money~Ross has been a good sheriff..lets not forget that. I am sure his officers trust him.
He is paying for his crimes Im sure he had to meet his maker,In the mean time why ruin a long time sheriff ( and a good sheriff) life and reputation for someone that had taken advantage of his position for years. That means we protect the molester and damn the person that didnt want him around the inmates.
The simple fact here is that the Sheriff had access to privileged information and his decision to share it with the subject of that investigation was wrong, was probably unethical and may well be criminal.
Paragraph two of the Maine Police Chief’s Code of Ethics: “We will put honesty, truth and justice above all other considerations, and we will not allow friendship, enmity, social position, political influence, nor personal motives to swerve us from the impartial performance of duty.”
Paragraph Six of the Code of Ethics: “Recognizing the mutual dependence of all law enforcement and social agencies, we pledge our cooperation to all officials and agencies interested in the promotion of justice and the improvement of social conditions. We will not allow envy, jealousy, or any other motive to interfere with such cooperation.”
Source http://www.mainechiefs.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=421
Exactly. I agree. Look into the future and think of a circumstance in which the State Police or perhaps the FBI began to investigate alleged corruption in the Sheriffs Office. Would they be able to go to Ross and ask for his help in investigating a potential dirty officer in the department? Would they worry that Ross would tip off the subject of the investigation or run off at the mouth? Very likely.
The Sheriff is suppossed to let the legal process happen and to follow the law regardless of who may be involved, friend, co-worker or family member withstanding.
You don’t know the Sheriff from Adam, Mr. Arg. Yet you talk with such arrogant certainty about the Sheriff’s character. By the way, Ross didn’t have to tell anybody that he spoke to Carlson about the investigation, yet he volunteered the information to investigators. That sounds a lot like putting “honesty, truth and justice above all other considerations.”
No I dont. Perhaps you do. I do know that it is being reported that Ross may have done something very inappropriate in communicating with Carson. I find it hard to believe that as a Law Enforcement Officer Ross would not have known better than to do what he appears to have done. If he came forward then that does count for something. But damage is damage. I see, as do many others, that this is not some little mistake that took place. It is a serious error judgement and a police officer, a sheriff, should have known that you dont tip off people to upcoming investigations.
By the way, my family members were the Sheriff and Chief Deputy of Hancock County so if you think I am operating from a base of hate for Law Enforcement I am not.
Why would you assume that I believe you hate law enforcement? The fact is, you don’t even know at this point if the MSP has a gripe with Ross. Why not wait for the results of the investigation before spreading a lot of uninformed, and potentially nonfactual, assumptions?
This forum is an opportunity to express opinions and our feelings about news articles. It is my opinion that the State Police very well do have a problem with Ross as he appears to have a loose mouth. I think that could result in significant inter-agency cooperation problems in the future. I may be wrong. You of course have the right to a differing opening. You have the right to interpet what you read in a manner different than I do. You also have the right to post your opinions and interpetations.
Sal, first off John Connolly went to prison not for tipping off Whitey Bulger but for murder, racketeering and obstruction of justice. During his career with the FBI Connolly, in affect became a member of the Winter Hill Gang. Connolly was corrupt, as corrupt as any cop has ever been.
The second issue was Carlson was still a member of a board at the jail which gave him 24/7 access to the jail without question. So he had to restrict his access.
The third point is the likelihood of a prosecution based on an alleged criminal offense in the 1970’s was nil. When Carlson entered into the illegal activity there was a 15 year statue of limitations which means no criminal charges would have been filed from that offense.
Were there other minor victims? I have no idea and we will not know until the MSP closes their investigation and releases their report.
Now to be clear, I am NOT defending him. I am simply pointing out some facts which some people seem to ignore or wish didn’t exist.
Whitey Bulger was tipped off by Connolly and Bulger fled. That is documented to have happened. Connolly was Bulgers handler while Bulger was a FBI informant. Connolly went to jail for racketering and obstruction as you say. He is now in Massachusetts State Prison on a murder conviction.
Sherriff Ross is not a District Attorney. I do not believe he had the right to say anything to Carlson based on the fact that Carlson may or may not be able to be charged regardless of any investigation against him.
Maybe it is second guessing but in my opinion Ross should have told Carlson that he was no longer allowed access to the jail and that should have been it. If there were questions from Carlson the response should have been that time would provide the answers.
Sal, Sal, Sal…calm down.
All I said was that Connolly went to prison for murder, racketeering and obstruction of justice. And that he was a corrupt as corrupt can be.
I never said that Ross was the DA. I said that the Statue of Limitations had run out on any offense committed in the 1970’s. That is a fact. Carlson could not have been charged with anything for any offense committed in the 1970’s.
What Ross said or didn’t say to Carlson is between him and the MSP at this point.
Yes, Connolly went to jail for those things. As far as Ross, I dont think the thought he could or could not share information with Carlson based on things like limitations of prosecution should have ever entered his mind. I agree with you, MSP and Ross are most likely having quite a few chats these days.
But couldn’t Ross have simply contacted the jail and taken Carlson’s name off the list pending results?And for him to say that Carlson would’ve died after the MSP interviewed him seems like a stretch.If Carlson was jailed it seems that his ability to do what he did would’ve been curtailed.
Ask any ‘regular person” accused of similar crimes if they got a courtesy call from Mr. Ross.Doubtful.
There are no winners here.But at the very least the law needs to be clarified and changed if necessary.
I want someone to publish the jail records and/or visitor log. You and I both know NO ONE goes in and out of that jail without it being documented somewhere. Carlson may have been on the board of visitors but he resigned his official position there of I believe in 2008.
I want to know just how many times Carlson “visited” the jail between the timeframe of him resigning his position in 2008 until present day. If it turns out that Carlson visited on a regular basis then Ross’ s comments make a little more sense to me. If it turns out that Carlson rarely visited the jail…Ross comments would hold no merit and he should be dealt with immediately.
Ross says that he was concerned for the inmates and his jail staff…if Carlson never visited, there’s no reason to be concerned!
“When Carlson entered into the illegal activity…”
There has been no indication given by the investigators yet that Carlson ever indeed entered into the illegal activity.
people were murdered as result of zip connolly,s tips over the years,it wasnt just one get your butt outta town tip.big diff.
Yes that is true, he provided a lot of information to Bulger that allowed lots of criminal behavior to continue, including murder. Connolly also tipped Bulger off to a Massachusetts State Police Investigation. Bulger fleeing ahead of an indictment did get the ball rolling on Connolly and did lead to his going to prison. Obstruction and Racketering came first and then the murder charges started being filed.
You have to say one thing for Glenn Ross. He has been able to get people who normally do not agree on much of anything to come together. Who woulda thunk it? Darkcat and me agreeing on something. In this case twice in one day. That is miraculous.
I agree…he has been a great sheriff. I can see is dilemma.
Ross did not have to tell Carlson about the investigation in order to keep him away from the jail. Come on.
The same as bangorian and me.
All of you newly agreeable accusers all have a lot in common: you’re all hypocrites. You demand “justice” while you get your lynch mob together before the investigation is even completed.
Based on two articles about this subject it appears that the sheriff is contradicting himself about what he did or did not say and do. Based on what is being reported it appears he made a very serious error in judgement and should have known better. It is someone elses responsibility to figure out what happened and what Ross should or shuld not face for punishment or reprimand in the future. Lynching? I havent advocated anyone breaking into Ross’ home and killing him. I havent seen anyone else post such things either. Do you really think it is allright for Sheriffs to tell friends, aquintances, ex-employees or anyone that they are about to be visited by another police agency as the subject of an investigation and then to tell them what the investigation ? That is what appears to have happened, along with Ross giving some very specific information about the investigation to Carlson.
“That is what appears to have happened…”
But you don’t KNOW what happened. Get it? None of us in the public will know anything approaching the full story until the MSP releases the results of the investigation. Until then, all of your complex postulating is nothing more than hearsay, and potentially false hearsay at that.
But I do know. In the very article we are commenting on it reports that Ross admitted to telling Carlson he was going to be under investigation for a sexual offense by the Maine State Police. Ross is saying he did it with his own words, admitting to it. Now if you think it was appropriate for him to do that or that it was ethical or not damaging in anyway for him to do so then fine. Further complicating the issue is an article previous to this one in which Ross again admits he said something to Carlson even though he told the MSP he would say nothing about the investiga /tion. / If you think the Sheriff deserves a hearing, due process or a chance to explain his behavior in this matter then I agree with you. He should not just be removed on a whim. However in MY OPINION I think he allowed his friendship(he admits to crying after finding out that Carlson was dead) with Carlson to blur his judgement and he very well may have jeopordized his ability to be the Sheriff of Penobscot County.
Your welcome to disagree.
I agree. What do you think Ross would do if it had been one of the Deputies under his command who had leaked information concerning an investigation? He would, at the very least, suspend the Deputy without pay and rightly so. But for him it’s okay? No. Any law enforcement officer who’s worth their salt knows that you never, under ANY circumstances, divulge information regarding an ongoing investigation. Again, if this had been one of his Deputies Ross would be in the media crowing about how he took action after a leak of information.
The Deputy Attorney General of Maine says police inform suspects of investigations all the time.
Otis Lebree would turn in his grave.
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Witch Hunt?
In yesterdays article Ross said “Ross said Wednesday that he felt compelled to tell Carlson that he was
the focus of the Maine State Police probe because Carlson was on the
Penobscot County Jail’s board of visitors and Ross wanted to limit his
access to the jail.” Now he is saying that isnt what he said? I agree he should not have said anything. No the State Police will never get a statement from Carlson.
Mr Ross, i may not have all the answers , but im sure you could of let Mr Carlson know that he was not allowed into the jail without revealing the reason to him. It wouldnt be the first time a law enforcement officer has ever held the truth from someone under investigation !
How about something like this.
“Bob I have to revoke your privileges to visit the jail”. Then inform the jail personnel that Carlson was no longer authorized entry.
Exactly right, don’t give him any reason, just say all visitors are under review. Besides how often did this guy visit the jail anyway? Seems to me protecting young children on the outside should trump protecting adult prisoners on the inside. Ross is lying.
“It wouldnt be the first time a law enforcement officer has ever held the truth from someone under investigation!”
You sound like you speak from experience, but I may not have all the answers.
Here is the quote from Ross that the BDN published yesterday, ”
“I told him that there was a letter that has been sent to everybody and that the letter accuses him of sexual misconduct,” the sheriff said. Today he has revised the story , “There were no details shared, not who was investigating or for what. I just told him there was [an anonymous] letter of complaint that was widely circulated and that I would have to restrict his access. I told Bob that I could not reveal any details; that would be improper.” So yesterday he said he told him that the letter accused him of sexual misconduct and today he is claiming he could not reveal details. If as Ross is now claiming he did not reveal the nature of the complaint against Carlson how does he explain this, ““His only comment to me is that police have to take this very seriously because of what is going on with the Sandusky case,” Ross added, referring to the Penn State child sex abuse scandal involving coach Jerry Sandusky that broke around the same time. “He didn’t confirm or deny anything.”? Ross is being what detectives term as ”inconsistent” in his statements. If you or I were being interviewed by police and kept changing our story we would probably soon find ourselves in a cell. Ross either lied yesterday or he is lying today. It is one thing when a politician lies to us, we expect it, but the people have to be able to believe that the top cop in Penobscot County is honest. Lying is not a form of honesty. Mr. Ross stop bringing dishonor to the hard working men and women of the Penobscot County Sheriff’s Department. Mr. Ross stop trying to lie your way out of the mess that you created by breaking your promise to Detective Gardener to keep this quiet. Mr. Ross do the right thing, turn in your letter of resignation and your badge. The people of Penobscot County need to know that their top cop is not a “dirty cop” and you are showing by your inconsistent statements that you are.
I agree he can’t stay as Sheriff much longer he needs to go. The County Commissioners need to start the process of getting this corrupt gentleman out of office. They need to bring in the State Police, District Attorney and The AG’s office in to help get this process going. He has violated the Public Trust, The credibility and respect from fellow officers in the Law Enforcement Community. Though most importantly he has violated numerous laws and showed corruption by getting involved in this investigation and also favortism to Mr. Carlson. He is no longer qualified, has zero credibility to be Sheriff. He is a dirty cop kinda reminds you of cops that you see in larger cities that overstep their authority when using force and doing this type of behavior in investigations etc.. It’s disappointing to see other Sheriff’s and Augusta Mayor and Assistant AG Bill Stokes defending Mr. Ross and his behavior. They are wrong in defending his actions. Hopefully the process can start soon because the citizen’s of Penobscot county needs leadership and honesty in that office.
So tell us precisely which laws Ross violated. (Hint: None.)
Ross put the victim who has suffered since 1970 with shame and guilt and whatever else is involved in being molested at the tender age of 11 in harms way. Also Ross is the only one left of two men that had two conversations about this investigation. He can say anything He wants and there is no one alive to refute it. Perhaps Carlson knew something about Ross so that Ross wanted Carlson to commit suicide. Ross needs to step down. His integrity has been compromised. He put a victim at great risk that was out there all alone for the safety of prisoners that are watched 24/7 by guards. IMHO Ross knows a lot more than He is letting on.
“He can say anything He wants and there is no one alive to refute it.”
Yes, the Sheriff could have said anything he wants and there would be no one alive to refute it. So, what does he say? He tells investigators of his conversation with Carlson about the investigation. That doesn’t sound like the actions of a dishonest man to me.
phone records .. Ross didnt tell them about the conversations with Carlson until after the suicide at which time He knew He better come up with a story fast … phone records would show the calls made and or received from Carlson phone and Ross dam well knew the interaction would come out…. I am telling you this is the tip of the iceberg and there needs to be an investigation.
Even if there are phone records, the records wouldn’t reveal what was said in the conversations.
thats the point I was making… only one of the two people having the conversation is still alive, and that would be Ross and He can say anything He wants and there is no one to refute it
We are not talking laws here, we are talking ethical standards, and they are just as important if you are a law enforcement officer.
Sure we are: “Though most importantly he has violated numerous laws…”
Hint; Hindering an investigation.
Hint, it was already flatly stated that he did NOT hinder an investigation. Besides, there is no crime of “hindering an investigation”. So not only is he not guilty, there is no crime.
Flatly stated by whom?? You? It may be called interfering now.
flatly stated by the state of maine laws… it is not a crime in the state of maine to hinder an investigation. there is a charge of obstructing govt admin, which doesn’t fall into this “crime” you all say has been committed, and as far as hindering apprehension, well no one was yet charged, there fore no apprehension was in progress… NONE of us will ever know what was said that night between Mr Ross and Mr. Carlson other than those 2 men them selves. and judging by the sheriffs own remarks, he has no intentions of telling us what was said. . . ethics violations?? more than likely; crime committed?? not so much.
Funny I was going to hire a private investigator I watch someone . Then a sheriff deputy told me tampering with a federal investigation was punishable with a year in jail. I had no idea they were already watching this person.
That’s not a law.
he is far from a dirty cop…shame on you~you obviously don’t know what a dirty cop really is!
Bull he tampered and obstructed with an ongoing investigation by the State Police . Sheriff Ross informed Mr. Carlson of what was going on you can’t do that. I don’t care if this pedophile is his friend it reeks of favoritism, special treatement. This Sheriff by some folks claims on here has a history of doing this getting involved. Inlcuding informing folks that they will be raided for Drugs. Ross needs to take Sheriff Donnie Smith’s advice and step down from the Sheriff’s Association and turn in his badge. I hope the County Commissioners do the right thing and start the process of getting rid of this unqualified and corrupt person who has violated the Trust of Voters, Law Enforcement and the Penobscot County Government and has zero credibility. As 4mermainer stated above I don’t agree with 4mermainer on anything politically but agree on this issue this man was wrong with what he has done. Penobscot County citizen’s need someone who will protect their safety, that is not unethical and corrupt, that doesn’t violate their trust and has the respect of the Law Enforcement community and Sheriff Ross is not that man. I expect you will see him be prosecuted by the either the District Attorney or the AG’s office and Mr. Ross won’t be a sheriff much longer either. Because I expect the County Commissioners to start the process of getting rid of the burden he has created.
If there is proof that he warned drug dealers of a raid..then I wholeheartedly agree with you..
At this point, your only proof that Carlson was a pedophile is an anonymous letter. But you have him tried and convicted already. The investigation is ongoing. You don’t know the first thing about the processes of justice in this community.
Maybe you’re one of the criminals the Sheriff has dealt with in the past, and so you have a grudge against him now. It’s speculation that is no more or less accurate than the speculation that you are throwing around before the investigation has been completed.
Exactly. His inconsistent statements are HIS quotes and two very different detailed “accounts” of what he told Carlson. If he were a “perp”, they’d be all over his inconsistencies like flies on…, well, you know. He needs to do the honorable thing and resign because he has lost the trust of the citizens and probably most other law enforcement agencies. How can the man be trusted now?
“His inconsistent statements are HIS quotes…”
You don’t know whether the quotes in the article are factual or whether they were botched in the process of gathering them.
Glenn Ross and Troy Morton are the Sheriff and Deputy of Penobscot County…not Waldo County where the Narrows Bridge is located. Why were they even there when they fished Calson out of the Penobscot? Sean Geagan is the Chief of Police in Bucksport…he wasnt there!
What Ross said at the landing I believe to be more of the truth. He didnt have time to think about what he was saying or to worry about the consequences of his actions. Again, in my opinion, there is no way that Glenn Ross can keep his job. Even if the investigation comes back and they rule in his favor…he has lost all credibility!
With all the negative publicity that Bangor PD and Penobscot SO is getting lately, I think it’s time for some new leadership in both Depts. Say what you want about Donnie Smith, at least he’s not afraid to speak his mind and no one could ever categorize him as a “yes man”
My thoughts too. Why were they there. Perhaps out of personal concern? I could buy that. But in an official law enforcement capacity? Donnie Smith took a lot of heat when he called out the MDEA roughly two years ago. What he said and alleged back then has appeared to have some merit as time has gone by.
Just a short comment. Yes troy morton is the chief deputy, God help us all if morton should be appointed by the governor to replace ross.
RetiredMe……IF the internal investigation concludes Ross should resign….OR is facing some sort of charges…..we’d all be VERY fortunate to have someone like Morton to replace him. Have known that family for years and the integrity there is above board & outstanding.
i believe i read that carlson went to the man that was going to come forth the same evening that ross told him what was going on. i have to wonder just how carlson knew who to go see that evening . maybe carlson would be alive today to face what was meant to happen.. to defend himself or pay the price i guess now we will never know thanks to good investigative cooperation on ross’s roll ijn this thing
You are only partially correct. Carlson did go and see the person he was involved with late in the evening on November 12th or early morning of the 13th.
The part that is not correct is that the person Carlson saw was set to “come forth”. No one, well at least the public at this point knows who wrote the letter that Ross, the Governor or the Boy Scouts received.
No matter if we like it or not Carlson should have been in protetcive custody in a jail cell. If the investigation had reached the point claimed by Ross it was his dudy not to inform a suspect but to take him into custody for his own protection. Any other criminal suspect would have been arrested long before this. Just another case of who you are not what you have done.
Protective Custody based on what? Everyone that had any interaction with him prior to him making the big plunge said he gave no indication of harming himself or anyone else.
And what were they going to arrest him for? He was honored by the Boy Scouts on November 9th (Wednesday), the three letters were received after that date and the investigation had just started. No one signed the 3 letters either. So as the DA, what charge would you have filed to arrest him?
Oh but, what harm had already been done?
How far do you think the MSP got in the investigative process between Thursday, November 10 and the early morning hours of Sunday, November 13th?
I always respect your opionions,but come on.Bob must have said or did something to make Ross think he might have been suicidal. Look at what Ross said!!! After talking to state police Bob would be dead. He knew he was in trouble and Ross didn’t do anything about it.
Poor choice of words. He would have been protected because he would have been in jail. I have no doubt if someone would have made such an accusation against me I would have been arrested. No matter the age of the charge. I think the statute of limitations has been lifted on child molestation charges. I don’t have the reputation or the money for lawyers to keep me out of jail. Justice is for the rich and influentual. Go to the courthouse sometime on araingemnt day and see how many rich people are there to face charges. They have already taken care of things behind closed doors so they don’t have to face the emparassment of public charges.
So if someone wrote a letter that made an allegation about you that occurred 30-40 years ago and didn’t sign the letter you believe you the police would run out and arrest you based on the unsigned letter alone? Without any evidence to support the letter?
The statue of limitations has been lifted for child abuse moving forward. But in the 1970s there was a 15 year limit that was in affect and that didn’t change.
The last two sentences of your post do not merit a response.
The three letters were probably not signed because those who wrote them were probably embarrassed about what was written in them. If you were sexually abused by someone as a kid, would you write letters and mail them to certain people/organizations with your name signed on the bottom of them? Probably not, I’m guessing. Being sexually abused is not quite something someone wants to come out and advertise to the greater public about.
Jennifer you are making the assumption in the absence of facts that it was the adult victim that wrote the letters and we don’t know that. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. Maybe it was another victim (if there is one), maybe it wasn’t. Maybe it was a family member of the victim, maybe it wasn’t.
Maybe it was Carlson himself. Maybe he was tired of living a lie after all those years. Maybe he had planned to off himself all along. He told the bride and groom that theirs’ would be his last wedding. Maybes are not flying this time of year so, I guess we will never know the truth. The one fact we do know, is that Glen Ross opened his mouth after he swore he wouldn’t. Shame on you Glen Ross.
“Protective custody”? Huh? Under what law? Who was threatening Carlson?
And no, “any other criminal suspect” would not have been arrested. The investigation had just begun — an investigation sparked by an anonymous letter. Let’s not forget that the only specific allegation against Carlson that we know of involves an incident that may have occurred more than 30 years ago, for which the statute of limitations has expired.
For the love of God, Ross didn’t have to share the details with Carlson…Carlson knew the details and took them with him into the Penobscot!!! And it is pretty frightening that Ross was so buddy buddy with Carlson and didn’t have a clue.
Where were you during all the years that Carlson was in the public eye, fooling everybody (allegedly)? Why weren’t you suspicious of Carlson before now? Makes me wonder how often you’ve been fooled by appearances. I’m sure there has been at least one instance, unless you have superhuman powers.
Protecting the prisoners? From what? In telling Carlson he put the victims in harms way. Carlson I’m sure had an idea of who sent the letter. He could have taken their lives as well before he took his own. Ross was wrong! He in telling Carlson hindered the investigation. Carlson was never questioned because of Ross’s decision to tell his “buddy” of the investigation.
He needs to step down!
Every time Smith opens his mouth about unethical actions by other law emforcement officers he is jumped on. He is probably the only ethical sheriff in the state.
It is definatly not proper to tip off a suspect in an ongoing criminal investigation. Especially by the high sheriff himself. No matter how good a freind he is.
smith is only concerned with self promotion he is an embarassment , he should resign as well
Sheriff Ross compromised his integrity and his principles. He was not able to perform his duty due to his affiliation with the accused.
It does not matter what other’s think, meaning the Sheriff’s Association. He has lost legitimacy with the public, and has had the association even contemplate the matter, he has lost all viable and discernable trust within his brethren. He compromised his own principle, and he compromised his electorate, that’s enough to ask that he step down.
Just curious…who was Sheriff of Washington County about 4 or 5 years ago when a substantial # of firearms was missing from the evidence room? And was that ever resolved?
I believe that was discovered after Smith became Sheriff and to the best of my knowledge a deputy was fired as a result of an investigation.
Not true …… urban legend . He is good at getting things out like they are true. AGs office found no guns missing. But not as fun to talk about.
I stand corrected. I will say that I found some of his complaints about MDEA credible. There was an Ellsworth Police Officer that worked with MDEA in Washington County. He was fired for very questionable actions. This occured several years ago. That former police man now has a portable toilet business.
Here in Hancock County there are concerns about our Sheriffs Department. I for one would support a very large expansion of the state police and county jails becoming state operated to male these sheriff department problems go away.
The MDEA officer who was sent back to Ellsworth ” with good cause” was before Smith became Sheriff. The public should keep a close watch on Smith and his unusual connection with a defense lawyer. Just take a look and connect dots. Something smells fishy and its not a boat in Lubec !!!
Do you know who I am speaking of? Here in Hancock County we have a sheriff who thinks the destruction of 26000 dollar police cruiser by a deputy driving 91 miles an hour because he feels like it is worth only a days suspension.
No Ellsworth officer was “sent back to Ellsworth with ‘good cause’.
The officer you are referring to got done with Ellsworth in 2001. He was working for another department while working for MDEA.
Well perhaps we are both confused as this man was an officer on the EPD in 2005 and into 2006. I can very specifically remember when he resigned/was fired as his wife at that time is an extended family member plus she told me all about it while I was working out at the YMCA one morning. They have since divorced and after working at kids peace for awhile he now has a portable toilet business.
I am not confused at all. He left EPD in Jan 2001; went to work for Hancock County SO 2001-2005; Private contractor 2005-2006; MDPD 2006-2008; Kidspeace 2008-2010; private business 2011-present. If you don’t believe my dates, check his Facebook page.
It looks like Sal doesn’t know as much as he thinks he does.
You are correct, Smith (nor his dog) was the Sheriff then. I recall reading all about that.
But yet it bothers me, why is Sheriff Smith so vocal on this issue? Is it that he wants to be the new chairman?
If that is the case, Smith will lose any election among the membership. I say this because, any law enforcement person tries not to talk to the press, he gravitates towards it. My uncle, a Vietnam War vet, a MSP trooper, and an MDEA agent explained to me that putting your face in the newspaper is equivalent to resigning from your duty…….and I’m not making this up.
This is reference to Sheriff Ross, not Sheriff Smith………but Sheriff Smith needs to understand that his comments are going to be noted among the voters.
You repeat something repeatedly it appears to be true. No gun were found to be missing by the AGs office. But it did make a good story for Smith’s campaign. If you look at Smith and his grandstanding they never are true. He takes some small info and makes it into a big story then trans forming into a investigation. Yet almost never is there any truth to the accusations. It is funny no one but Smith and his close associate Drug dealer lawyer Donnie Brown have any ethics. Just think about that connection??????
To ALL OF YOU who are doing the hindsight is 20:20 thing…..”IF YOU DIDNT SEE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES….OR HEAR IT WITH YOUR OWN EARS….DONT FRIGGIN INVENT IT WITH YOUR SMALL MIND AND SHARE IT WITH YOUR BIG MOUTH!!!!!!!!”……Just sayin! I hate people who love their 5 mins of fame and have to point fingers at Ross or the Deputy Chief or anyone else……even Carlson. We just DO NOT know ANYTHING and we will NOT know what Carlson was thinking or if guilty or innocent. ALL of your comments are mere speculation on your part. We havent walked in Ross’s shoes to say for sure what we woulda coulda done differently. Let the investigation settle this not all the small minded individuals on here who are so friggin SURE of themselves and what happened to who and when! WOW, wish I had your crystal balls or psychic abilities.
All we need to know , and we do know is Ross let Carlson know that he was under investigation ! You dont have to be a detective to know that was wrong !
The Deputy AG of Maine says police inform suspects about investigations all the time. How does that fit into your black and white theories?
What in h are you smoking??
LOL I’m not smoking anything RetiredMe…I’m just saying it’s not right for those making all these comments who DO NOT KNOW ALL THE FACTS but merely bits & pieces of this & that and are playing judge & jury…..I’m just saying there’s a lot we DONT KNOW for sure…it just amazes me how so many people are so quick to throw someone under the bus without all the facts based solely on knee jerk reactions and tiny bits of information. Now mind you….I’m NOT saying I condone what Ross did but then again, I didnt hear the conversation he had with Carlson so until all facts are in…I’m reserving judgment and so should all of these dingleberry’s!!!!
While Ross may or may not be wrong in this case, Donnie Smith is a glory hound prima-donna that will use any excuse to get his name in the paper. Neither event occurred anywhere near his county. However, if the goal was to make the Wash. County Sheriff’s Office appear to be a joke, he made it. For a while it was a neck and neck race with Piscataquis Sheriff Goggin. In an era when the Sheriff’s should be trying to prove that they are professionals and not in competition with State Police, these two guys show up. Also, wasn’t Ross in the news a few years back for tipping off a defendant about an MDEA raid that was going to happen?
If Ross did the same thing in a Raid a few years ago that is illegal as well. I think this though will be the end of him as Sheriff because it is angering folks in the law enforcement community. This gentleman is corrupt by getting involved in investigations done by other departments. He tipped off Mr. Carlson so he knew what was going on to give him time to plan what he did. The fact is he does not any longer hold the qualifications to be Sheriff , he has violated the trust of those who elected him and put him into his position. I expect the County Commissioners to hold emergency meetings to start the process of at least suspending him indefinitely to complete removal. He can’t continue to run a department that will be seen as corrupt , unethical, showing favors to certain individuals while treating others differently. The citizen’s in that county need a honest individual to work to bring respect back to the department. Why because Mr. Ross has shown he no longer has that trust and leadership to do that.
well said, a bit long and I had to get my friggin glasses, but well said. (I hate my glasses)
Mr. Darkcat doesn’t know whether the public at large has lost respect for Sheriff Ross. His rant is just more wild speculation from uninformed gossips who believe they know all the facts before the investigation is complete.
And then what, put morton in as his replacement. Ask yourself this question Mr and Mrs commissioners, why is morton where he is, because he is so perfect???
What better time to create a Bangor volunteer civilian review board with subpoena powers.
Then the community can investigate what happened, how to prevent it from happening
again and deal with the perps using restorative justice, eh?
Oooops! this just in from the inmates are running the asylum newswire service…..
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/01/prison-guard-sex-inmate-guilty.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+lanowblog+%28L.A.+Now%29
Female prison guard pleads guilty to sex with inmate
January 19, 2012 |
Have you even written your state legislature and asked them to submit your bill?
Ross said Thursday evening that Smith is “misinformed” and “wrong” in his allegations of ethical misconduct. Ross said he never shared with Carlson any specifics of the investigation beyond telling him that, until it had run its course, Carlson would have to relinquish his public access to the county jail as a member of the jail’s board of visitors.
But yesterday you said……….
“I told him that there was a letter that has been sent to everybody and that the letter accuses him of sexual misconduct,” the sheriff said.
“His only comment to me is that police have to take this very seriously because of what is going on with the Sandusky case,” Ross added, referring to the Penn State child sex abuse scandal involving coach Jerry Sandusky that broke around the same time. “He didn’t confirm or deny anything.”
Hate to tell you Ross, but by telling him that he was being investigated for “sexual misconduct” pretty much gives him all the info he needs. Being that he most likely did these things I would guess he would know who levied these charges. What would you be saying if he decided to confront these victims and had further harmed them? What then, it’s not a stretch to think a he could have chosen to harm them vs. harm himself with the info you gave him.
SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE…Good old Donnie spashing his mug in the papers and calling on his media connections to make people believe he is better then other law enforcement….you ARE a joke Donnie Smith!
So you tell a person his access to the jail has been revoked with no further explanation? Seems to me that is enough to tip him off. That’s especially true if the man is guilty because he already knows what he might be accused of.
The Sheriff in Washington County , Seems to like the lime light, Any dirty laundry he can find, MDEA, His own Dept and so on somethings should be handled in house, and this is just my thoughts , But in this case with Ross if in fact that an ongoing investigation and he was ask’d not to speak to Carlson by the SP Det. then Ross certainly over stepped his boundies, The Sheriff’s Ass. should certainly take some action. What would have happen if the Sheriff’s office Ross had spoken to the Trooper and ask that the case be kept close to vest, I should thing that that Trooper would on Paid Admin. leave after Ross called the Chief of the State Police. Hopefully maybe the member of The Penobscot Sheriffs Office will take a vote on there leader and request he step aside. This is way over do……
This is a sad day for anyone wearing the uniform for Penobscot County. Ross has brought discredit to not only the county uniform but also all in law enforcement.
However this rolls, Donnie Smith is a media hound and apparently LOVES to see his name published in the paper and on television. Please, Donnie, Please, do us ALL a big favor and shut your mouth and worry about serving the citizens in your own county!!!!
Trust me…he talks a talk but he does not walk the walk. But has everyone fooled. He is a joke and laughing joke around here in Lubec
That should be obvious to everyone, he has driven good people out of the department and retains incompentents under a cloak
As was Carlson in Bangor
I propose a Penobscot County—Washington County trade…I’ll give you Glenn Ross and you give me Donnie Smith
ok deal…but will take his sorry k9 that is highly trained by a bunch of wanna bees
This isn’t about Donnie Smith……this is about Glenn Ross. People aren’t stupid, one foot in front of the other is how you walk forward, Donnie Smith, will harrow his own row, it will either grow or not.
I don’t know Sheriff Smith, but I do know that he was elected. What does that mean? Nothing! If he can’t walk the walk, then the people of Washington County need to tell him to take a walk. I’m from Piscataquis County, our sheriff stands up to: the county, the MSP, the feds, he knows his boundaries. He would never, ever harbor a potential suspect, nor would he compromise his jurisdiction in behalf of his own political gain.
Things grow best in the light.
Those that aren’t strong enough die with too much light, they have to be able to go without water….kinda like a fiddlehead.
He is the same sheriff that tried to assualt a State Trooper after the trooper shot and killed a man that was engaged in a standoff. The subject of that shooting was believed to have murdered someone and was armed with a handgun. The subject was an employee or an aquintance of the Sherriff somehow, a dispatcher wasnt he?
No, That was the Piscataquis County Sheriff John Goggin. And from what I understand, I’m from the area, everyone is telling me that the suspects gun was on the ground and the MSP officer shot because he thought he was going to go for it. John didn’t, or even try to assault the MSP officer. He just got in his face and had a little talk with him. It’s the Sheriff’s jurisdiction, any police officer is accountable to the Sheriff, John wanted answers, because he knew that the gun was on the ground; his own deputy’s told him that it was.
I don’t live in the Guilford/Dover area any more. But the Sheriff you are referencing is John Goggin. John doesn’t go looking for the spot light and press, he would rather be re-building his farm that burned a couple of years ago.
Hey Donnie Smith…do us all a favor and put in for that transfer to Penobscot County we need someone that doesnt lay down and is not afraid to call someone out when they are in the wrong!. I hear that position may be opening up sooner than you think! I know it doesnt work this way but what if it did??????
We all piled on Donnie when he outed the MDEA…turns out he was right! He has been right about other things as well and lets people know about it. I WANT someone that isnt afraid to call out his “own people” if they are in the wrong. I want someone that serves THE PEOPLE, not someone that protects his own.
Ask Lt Grotton about a drug case years ago where then Chief Deputy Ross was suspected of tipping off a family member of a drug dealer, that a warrant was about to be served. The family member was a civil deputy (paper server) . AG’s office said there was no proof, but the State Police felt differently
Once again, I do remember that drug case and we were disgusted then as well.
So, you’re saying the State Police determines a person’s guilt, even when there is no legal proof? If that is true, that’s pretty chilling. I choose to believe that you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I never thought I would find myself ever agreeing with Sheriff Donnie Smith but in this case, he is correct. There is no excuse for Sheriff Ross’ actions. He took an oath when he pinned on his sheriff’s badge and he broke it. His statement that he did so out of an obligation to protect the inmates at the jail does not hold water. If he truly had such a concern there were several ways to deal with the situation without informing Carlson that he was under investigation. His inconsistent statements only serve to darken the cloud over his integrity.
“Story said he was at the scene on Nov. 13 when Ross showed up at the Penobscot Narrows Bridge just before Carlson’s body was recovered. At that time, Story said Ross informed him about the investigation into Carlson and also told him about having informed Carlson about it. Story said that Ross explained to him that morning that he had felt obligated to tell Carlson he was under investigation because he wanted to limit Carlson’s visits to the jail, which he had access to as a member of the jail’s board of visitors. Story said he was just at the scene to observe and he assumed that Ross also later relayed the same information to the detectives investigating the case, but apparently that did not happen. Story said he wanted to set the record straight because he was upset with the way some members of the media were making it sound like Ross had changed his story.” “I know some people are going to say it’s just a sheriff protecting another sheriff, but that’s not the case,” Story said. “I am a man of integrity and these are the facts.”
If these were the facts then Sheriff Story should have corrected them long before his department completed their investigation. It is quite clear that Sheriff Story neither spoke with his investigators nor did he review their case reports before the investiagtion was completed. Given the fact that this was such a high profile case one would expect a thorough review by the upper command staff. Had that occurred the major discrepency between the alleged statements that Sheriff Ross made to Sheriff Story that are inconsistent with the statements that Sheriff Ross made to the detectives would have been noted. Had Sheriff Story also taken the time to write a report about his interaction with Sheriff Ross on the date in question he would not have to” set the record straight” as he now claims.
If Sheriff Ross truly believes in the oath that he took 30 years ago, in the integrity of his profession and in the integrity of his agency, he will take responsibilty for of his actions and step down.
Your treatise only goes to show that the facts of this saga are still in question. And to call for someone to hang before the investigation is complete is the action of a lynch mob, not the opinion of anyone whose views about “justice” should be respected.
Seriously guys? Have you never done anything incorrect in anyway? Especially for a friend? To say Sheriff Ross was intentionally covering up for a pedophile? Really? Do any of you know him? Needed him in either a personal situation, or as the sheriff? I certainly will not hide the fact that I have known him all my life and looked up to him, and still do… I personally do not agree with this specific choice… but hind site is always 20/20… I have seen him turn down very close friends when probed for info…. He may be the sheriff, but he is also a man… a very good, kind man….. as I always told him… he is too nice to be sheriff
Yes I know him, and you are wrong.
Maybe you have a reason to hold a grudge against him, RM. Maybe he beat you out for a job in year’s past. Maybe he turned you down for a promotion. Maybe he stole a girlfriend from you when you were teenagers. These assumptions are all at least as valid as the assumptions and accusations that have been flying around this blog.
It might be instructive for readers to look at the research of Senator John DeCamp
an attorney who served in the Nebraska legislature for 15 * years.
Senator DeCamp is the author of the book THE FRANKLIN COVERUP
which details the FBI and Omaha police coverup of a national pedophile ring involving
corporate heads and politicians sexually abusing and murdering children see
http://www.whale.to/b/the_franklin_cover-up_-_john_decamp_-_ebook.pdf
DeCamp was mentored by CIA Director William Colby when serving as a soldier in Vietnam.
Shortly after DeCamp talked with Bill Colby about FBI and local law enforcement involvement
in a national pedophile ring Colby was found murdered. see
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2008/01/william-colby-heroin-israel-and-child.html
If Bob had been stopped of his behavior of bringing young boys into private rooms in the 70s, by any of these sheriffs or soon to be sheriffs. no one person would be in this mess today, esp the victim. And for that I am appalled. And it brings tears to my eyes, for the justice system that is suppose to protect us, esp children was squashed by the good old boys club. Do you people really think that was his first time. I sure as heck dont. I believe he told that boy, Look what I just did. I brought you here in front of all these cops. not a damn thing you can do. I am angry at what our system has allowed. And they owe this man, boy, for thats what he is For his ability to grow was taken from him , A apology, we failed him. we owe him help in form of a shrink and we owe him rehab, for he is a mess and has been since this started. This has got to stop. You allowed it, Own It
Ok, so where are all these victims now? Has anyone come out with their story? Not that I know of. So far, other than some bogus credentials, all we have is hearsay. If you knew something, why didn’t you come forward with it?
Trust me I would of come forward had I known . Am not sure what you mean by bogus credentials. But as a mom , and a person with a heart. I would not doubt someone who said something awful had happened to them. I would not allow a friend , family member, or a coworker, let alone a stranger do harm to another person, animal, property. How could anyone ever allow behavorior that makes yourself or others uncomfortable. esp in our Justice system. And as Pedophiles go, if there is one there are more. Oh what a tangled web we weave, when you practice to deceive. There is much damage to many from this web. This is just the tip of this iceberg.
I have no more use for a pedophile than you do, but you seem to be confusing evidence with hearsay. I am sure your heart is probably in the right place but you seem to be making leaps of your own. As for the bogus credentials, that was outlined in a previous news story in the BDN.
Other than numbers, you likely will never find out, the name of the victim. The identity will be with held unless he comes forward himself. He is a VICTIM. He is to be protected as is any rape victim, and rightly so.
I am not interested in names of victims. Most likely there was a relationship here but whether or not it began when said victim was a child seems to be unclear. Carlson’s apparent suicide does not prove anything other than he was extremely depressed about something.
Ross better get his story straight or he will find himself facing obstruction of justice or perjury charges in addition to any others he should face.
Why in the world would anyone want to be in a job like Penobscot County Sheriff?? They have to deal with ignorant opionated people daily. Everyone seems to assume that Glenn Ross is dishonest, etc. He is a fine man, a dedicated public servant and obviously a caring friend. You all should be apologizing to him for your horrible comments.
Ignorant? Mr. Ross needs to resign. The sooner the better. Tipping off the accused in a criminal investigation isn’t ethical at all. Glenn Ross and his shifting excuses aren’t passing the smell test. Time to go Mr.Ross.
Don’t waste your time pal. If they don’t see the obvious by now then you are never going to be able to explain it. Like my grand daddy used to say, the world needs ditch diggers too.
Yeah, the Nazis saw the obvious when they looked at Jews. The racists saw the obvious when they saw the blacks. There’s nothing worse than idiots who see the obvious.
Unemployment at near 10%, I’d bet we could find a more honest individual.
Apparently you are too close to the forest to see the trees.
Told his friend he was being investigated – yeah, sounds about normal for Maine.
the sad part of this whole thing is what can you believe in these days? who can you trust?
The thing is, why is it that in law, during jury selection even, both sides of the panel of attorneys ask potential jurors if they know anyone associated in a case including council because then it would be a conflict of interest. Attorneys and even Judges often recuse themselves if they are too close to the vest in certain cases also. The fact remains is this, The Sheriff should not have told him anything because it could be misconstrued, especially since they we’re good friends…conflict of interest. Secondly, just hours before he jumped, Carlson was on the phone to the victim so A….He knew who was the complainant and that also shows guilt because an innocent man would not know who the hell could have made such accusations if they truly never committed such things in their life but the mere fact that he was informed by a close friend and then he called the victim twice hours before he jumped speaks volumes.
For all you know, the “victim” was nothing more than a gay lover, which is not illegal. Why do you preach about “justice” and then condemn people before all the evidence is in?
Well, what has been surfacing so far is not a good indicator and unless someone magically produces *secret Recordings* of what exactly was said between the 2 involved then we can never be sure how much was known by the other party. Heck…33 years to be a close friend and not ever even suspect something…come on…
I dont even think he has one of them :)
Now there’s some intelligent comments, doesn’t surprise me coming from Regina Hosebeast, Washingtoncntyboy and Kennebasis. They must work for Eastport PD. Sheriff Smith is indeed correct to ask for Sheriff Ross to resign. What if the good minister had taken the life of his victim(s) before killing himself? What evidence was destroyed before Bob took his own life? The excuse/reasoning for Ross to tell Carlson that he couldn’t be allowed in the jail is absurd. Ross told his friend to warn him… end of story..and it is wrong. Thank you Sheriff Smith for standing up for what is right and ethical. You will have my vote in the next election.
Interesting skckntired . You must have some inside info ,passably your household comes from Smith’s department . It appears Smith jumps into things for the self promotion . He also often spreads false and misleading information for his personal benefit. What would you think if it was proven he has kept investigations by the AG’s on his department from the public. That would be kinda ironic that the person who is barging about being transparent is covering up his department misconduct.
Interesting Jon but again not surprising that you would think that someone in my houseshold works for the Sheriff’s Department as I disagree with those genius’s. If Sheriff Smith kept any investigations about his department secret it would be a shock and I don’t believe it is true. If there was misconduct then the AG’s office would be doing something about it? correct? ahhh which means someone with an axe to grind has complained to the AG office and it was UNFOUNDED….because if there was any merit to a complaint the AG’s office would do something about it. I don’t see how Sheriff Smith is self promoting? Are you implying that Sheriff Ross was correct in his decision to tell Carlson about the investigation? I think Sheriff Smith should be commended for keeping the public informed.
AG’s office conducts investigations for the state and hands them back to the department so they can take action. Understanding unless it is elevated to criminal, in this case would be handled by the AG’s office. Ethics are under the control of the department “normally”.
So if it is proven to you Smith covered misconduct by a member of his department you would have a change of mind about Smith’s motivation. Passably change your support?
You people have nothing better to do but beat your gums about this investigation. What Carlson did is wrong and instead of facing it he jumped, what a coward. So for the 60 days lets see how many times post something about Carlson being tipped off by Ross. Ross was wrong for tipping him off. I bet the jury is out already about whats going to happen to Ross. Don’t Jump Ross you must have enough years too retire. It just a good old boy’s club out there.
I think my major concern is the victim here, and I’m not talking about Carlson. The man Carlson was “seeing” and was being investigated on, is he safe? Is his name going to come out because Ross said something? Is this going to turn into a scandal? I think that Ross should resign before this thing goes into even more of a tail spin and he can get out of it with a semi-clean title. This is no different to me then a cop with drug dealer friends and the cop tipping off the friends before a house got raided to take them out of harms way.
How do you know that the alleged victim is actually a victim? Have you seen part of the investigation that none of the rest of us has seen?
Ross should loose his job, his retirement, and everything else. You or I would be charged with tamperring and or more, by Sherriff Ross. The same laws apply to him.
I am glad that Ross was more concerned for the safety of “his” vulnerable prisoners by limiting the access of a possible pedophile to them than any investigatory integrity the state police might have wanted. I hope the state police now realize that some county mounties may not be on the same side of the shield.
Sniff, sniff, sniff….Is that a little publicity that Donnie Smith smells?
Scott Story says he is an ethical man, thats bull, and people know it. Not that ross did the right thing, I believe he should not have told carlson anything. Next they put donna dennison on that panel, well now, she is going to have a ball with this one, she is media hungry, dishonest, and has a hard time to be fair. Ross has been had, again, I think he is guilty, but he is not getting a fair shake with dennison the non-manager on that board.
At least Sheriff Story should get an “A” for “setting the record straight” and letting the taxpayers know just how incompetent his detective division is!
If the sheriff wanted to restrict access to the jail, he could have just told his personnel to restrict Carlson’s access- no reasons necessary. If a private citizen tipped off the subject of an investigation before the police got a chance to interview him, he would be charged with hindering aprehension for interfering with the investigation.
Maybe we need more of the of the Donnie Smiths of the world- law enforcers who aren’t afraid to call out their colleagues when they screw up, instead of banding together in a veil of secrecy and support at all costs.
Really all he needed to do is assign jail personnel to observe interaction between Carlson and the inmates until Carlson was placed under arrest.
If there is blame to be had, it all goes back to Carlson, and Ross fell for his ‘friendship’. The spiritual abuse of adults is just another means for perpetrators who wear the collar (that symbolizes trust). See Dr. Marie Fortune’s organization, http://www.faithtrustinstitute.org , and one of her books, Is Nothing Sacred? Tells the story of a pastor who abused 7 women in a congregation and had his web scattered over law enforcement and every other arena in the small community order to protect himself and scapegoat the victims when they finally had the courage to come forward. These stories are not new, nor are they rare. Any consequences Ross incurs because of his actions, he has no one to blame but his buddy Carlson for hooking him in and forcing him to make ethical choices that eventually ‘screw’ him as well. We also need to be pluralizing the word victim as well. No doubt there are others…Ross is really another one as he was manipulated and coerced just the same. It’s not about the sex, but powering over another in devious ways.
Typical republicans at work here nothing new. He asked for forgiveness just before he jumped i am sure and that works well according to the black book. Sheriff just needs to find a new pervert to look up too and protect. Libs
What is the purpose to investigate Glenn Ross? If the police knew about this, why didn’t they handle this when they first found out about Bob Calson? I think Glenn made the correct choice. It was Bob’s choice to suicide. It’s amazing to me Bob’s dirt comes out after he suicided. When others in the community knew about Bob’s misconduct with a child.
I find it interesting that when Tim Richardson was a deputy that he figured Carlson out and on becoming Sheriff, dismissed him from the jail. How did Ross let him have access to the jail. Ross has some explaining to do.
And isn’t interesting that:
1) Deputy Sheriff Richardson never went to Maine’s Child Protective Services and reported his suspicions. How history may have been changed if he had.
2) Sheriff Richardson dismissed Carlson from the jail rather than opening an investigation into his suspicions. How history may have been changed if he had.
3) Sheriff Richardson never went to Maine’s Child Protective Services and reported his suspicions. How history may have been changed if he had.
4) Former Sheriff Richardson only went public after Carlson took the big plunge with his “suspicions”. How history may have been changed if he had done it sooner.
While there are many what ifs about what Tim and others did or should have done, what he did was positive for the time. Child abuse laws at the time required reporting to ones superior. He did this with telling Sheriff LaBree and the DA Cox. When he became sheriff, he was the superior and dismissed Carlson. He only had supisions and no proof or evidence. Hindsight is always right. Too bad we don’t have it at the monent.
Investigations are started all the time based on suspicions of criminal activity.
Here is the question that I wished the BDN had asked former Sheriff Richardson – “Sheriff Richardson, if you were suspicious enough of Reverend Carlson’s behavior to report it to Sheriff LaBree and DA Cox, why didn’t you open an investigation into Reverend Carlson’s behavior when you became Sheriff?”
At least Sheriff Richardson went to his Boss and to the DA and they did not pursue it.
Well since both the former Sheriff and DA that then Deputy Sheriff Richardson reported his suspicions to are now deceased we cannot confirm that he did any of what he said he did.
And if he was SO suspicious of Bob Carlson behavior with young boys why didn’t he act on those suspicions when he became Sheriff by opening an investigation rather than “kicking the can down the road” by dismissing him?
JD defend the system as much as you want. Many more people are corrupt in the world than you would care to believe . maybe not as many as I think but much more than you think. The truth lies somewhere in the middle .
David I am not defending the system. I am asking a question, why didn’t then Sheriff Richardson act on his suspicions instead of just “dismissing” Carlson?
All he did was “kick the can down the road” and when Carlson took the big plunge went to the press and said, “I knew something wasn’t right. I told people about it but they didn’t listen. But when I was elected Sheriff I dismissed Carlson.”
The follow up question should have been, “Instead of dismissing Carlson why didn’t YOU act on the suspicions you say you had?”
You make an astute point, JD. It’s easy for all these armchair quarterbacks to look back with perfect hindsight, including Richardson.
Exactly! If Tim had suspicions… why did he not open an investigation? And as some say, at the time the laws were different, well, all the time he was sheriff he still could have opened an investigation, or alerted other authorities, but he waits until he can get a little lime light and bash someone? Really helpful…. sheriff Ross did not have those suspicions, as most people did not, he had just won the boy scouts top award… so were they on in the protection of a pediphile too? all Ross had was an unsigned letter talking about a possible crime decades ago…. If Tim had just filed a report, there would have at least been some backup and this could have been over many years ago, possibly b4 the statute of limitations ran out… instead, he covered his own butt, and looked the other way… letting a child molester go about their business… ya, go Tim… we want him back…. NOT
And that kind of good old buddy favoritism is exactly what got Sheriff Richardson out of office a few years ago. Unfortunately he could of done the right thing in this case when he was in office. Whats the saying , hind sight is 20/20 !
Sounds like a “You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” type of deal.
There’s a lot being said here back and forth. It can however be summed up very easily, and with few words. All Ross had to do is contact the investigators and ask if it would interfere with their investigation if Ross told Carlson about it. It’s called inter-departmental cooperation. However, once you put a gold badge on some peoples shirts and a star on their collar, they seem to forget that they SERVE the law, they don’t dictate it.
“…they seem to forget that they SERVE the law, they don’t dictate it.”
How do you know? Have you ever worn the badge? Or are you talking from a position of ignorance?
ross’s unethical behavior allowed carlson time to have access to the victim for what ever reason,Ie attempt to intimidate the victim not to testify,phyically or mentally harm the victim.Despite ross not furnishing carlson will the name of the victim ,once told of an on going investigation ross knew who the victim was and by all accounts did in fact make contact with the victim prior to his suicide . Totally unprofessional unethical and border on criminal.I think at the least ross should resign for the sheriff department as he has clearly exhibited and verbally confirmed by his denial of wrong doing ,the potential to place others in harms way should he be confronted with a similar situation in the future
I am as disgusted with Glenn Ross as I still am with Mr. Carlson! Y would he ever tipoff a Pedophile. I am so fustrated with this whole situation. It just makes me sick very very sick. I will never refer either one of them to the profession they supposedly hold and held. A Sheriff, A Reverend~These are people we are supposed to run to when we are in need, for help, and guidance and protection. I would really like to spue (vent) right now but they just aren’t worth it! My ailing friend is though ,so thats were that energy is gonna go, not wasted on these two whatevers…………
I am as disgusted with Glenn Ross as I still am with Mr. Carlson! Y would he ever tipoff a Pedophile. I am so fustrated with this whole situation. It just makes me sick very very sick. I will never refer either one of them to the profession they supposedly hold and held. A Sheriff, A Reverend~These are people we are supposed to run to when we are in need, for help, and guidance and protection. I would really like to spue (vent) right now but they just aren’t worth it! My ailing friend is though ,so thats were that energy is gonna go, not wasted on these two whatevers…………
And what if your ailing friend happened to be accused of something terrible? Would you drop them cold turkey? Or would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
Gee……So the ‘SHERIFF’s group’ is investigating the ‘SHERIFF’ ….. yea I’m sure there is an impartial person on the panel…..sure there is….Pfffffft.
I agree..what a joke
“Smith took exception to a statement made Wednesday by Deputy Attorney General William Stokes in which Stokes said Ross didn’t violate any laws in tipping off Carlson.”
The sad part here is that Stokes is wrong. Under current Maine Law, Sheriff Ross committed the offense of hindering apprehension and prosecution.
“At a meeting in Vassalboro on Thursday, the sheriffs attending agreed that the association would conduct an inquiry into Ross’ conduct, a step required by the group’s bylaws when a member raises a complaint about another member.”
This was the right call by the MSA but they fell short in establishing the panel. In order to have a truly independant review the panel should be comprised of someone other than fellow members of the MSA.
Now hold on Glenn Ross would never do that. Lmao. Maybe he will finally get done as sherriff too
I think what Ross did was wrong, but with Donnie Smith in on this it is like the Pot Calling the Kettle Black. Donnie releases for information about other agencies investigations all the time. He is no better!
According to the Deputy AG, it happens all the time throughout the state.
Ross crossed the line to inform a predator that he was under investigation. He could have told him he couldn’t visit the inmates for the next few days because of a lockdown etc and then the MSP by then would have informed Carlson that he was under investigation. Ross was unethical in this matter and should be removed due to not treating people equally “friends” or not. I would also question his abilities to have not “felt” something wasn’t right hanging around with Carlson for all those years!!
You have not been given any evidence to date that proves Carlson was a predator. If you know he was a predator before the investigation has been completed, as you state unequivocally in your post, why didn’t you come forward sooner?
By sharing with Bob that he was under investigation, he could have put the victims life (and any other victims) in danger. Bob obviously knew what this was about, and who this was about. He could have chosen to retaliate or threaten the victim or victims, luckily, he didn’t . But he had a nice heads up if he wanted to, or if he wanted to skip town, geesh, he could have been out of the country before the state police even had a chance to confront him. Completely inappropriate and unethical.
The investigation was into allegations of PAST misdeeds, bad as they were. You cannot undo the past, but you can protect those in your care and custody from present, and future dangers, which is exactly what Ross did. Can you imagine if Joe Paterno had done so with his assistant?
Let’s see, you have a regular visitor to the jail, to visit with inmates. I’m not clear on the employee aspect. Regardless, he was in and out of the jail and Ross had to take a stand after he was informed. He had to prevent him from entering the jail. I for one do not see anything wrong in telling him that he could not enter the jail anylonger as there was an investigation going on. It’s like any other employer, removing an employee, you don’t discuss or say what, just that there is an investigation and upon conclusion, everyone will understand where they stand. It happens all the time in the business world. No big deal. cc Moppsy
Accessory to suicide maybe?
Glenn Ross done in by his friendship with a pedophile?
I will reserve personal “judgement” on Mr. Ross for now due to the fact that I was praising Mr. Carlson just prior to this whole explosion of happenings…..in opinion, it seems reasonable to remove/restrict the access/privileges of another if you are concerned about others well being, but it should have come to mind how the “accused” may react also……again, in opinion, maybe the Sheriff and State Police should have presented the evidence together to Mr. Carlson and he himself should have been closely watched to prevent any contact with prior victims, any destruction of evidence and the ultimate opportunity where he took his own life…..hindsight is sometimes quite revealing…..
Sheriff Ross was wrong. Period. That Sheriff Donnie Smith of Washington County, apparently alone amongst regional sheriffs, had the guts to say so publicly, speaks well for Sheriff Smith.
But Sheriff Donnie Smith has committed the sin of sins in Lubec and Washington County: he wasn’t born here!
He appears in local newspapers frequently because reporters ask him questions. They know they will get honest answers.
Sheriff Donnie Smith did get rid of some dead wood in his department early on, so they may be the whiners we see on this thread.
This story is really about Sheriff Ross’ tipping off a sexual predator that he was being investigated for sexual misconduct. What could be clearer?
Let’s not shoot the messenger. I will thank Sheriff Donnie Smith for speaking out to draw attention to the inconsistencies in Sheriff Ross’ story, and to point out that Sheriff Ross’ conduct was at the least unethical, if not criminal.
Apparently you are willing to convict Sheriff Ross on rumors and not let the system work as intended. If you let the system work as it is intended with all the facts we should know the answer to who is being truthful. This look at both sides of this situation objectively. What if you are wrong in your assumption , you convicting the sheriff without all the facts are doing irreversible harm to the reputation of a man who has served the people of Maine for a long time. If he has done something wrong it will be handled and reported by the proper agency.
Now on the other hand your unwillingness to look at any wrong doing by Smith is very interesting!!!!
I am going to post the last line of an investigative report from the AG’s head investigator. Sheriff Smith has a copy of this report and has not released it to the public. The officer involved is accused of changing the facts “being untruthful” of his report in-order to obtain a warrant.
Investigative report: “Problematic in the end, however,is the apparent willingness by Lt. Willey to modify the facts in order to counteract a seeming challenge to the legitimacy of his action”
Ask to see if he will take action for this in his Department. Ethics for all but not him. Speak facts not rumors.
The report was released in discovery material from a criminal case. Otherwise no one would know of the possibly fabrication of facts in reports. Who will be the next victim of an officer changing the facts in-order to arrest you or get in your home? US Constitution HMMMMM ethics hmmmm facts not rumors.
The reporter on this story, Tom Walsh, is a professional and I’m confident that he quoted Sheriff Ross correctly when he said he notified Carlson that he was being investigated for allegations of sexual abuse. No “rumor” here.
If you’re so determined to dump on Sheriff Donnie Smith, why don’t you write a letter to the editor using your real name and tell just what you think he did. Don’t just hint at it or use someone else’s name. Come right out and tell us.
Just because you are confident doesn’t mean you are correct.
Donnie Smith is a media hound, and frankly his “holyier than thou” attitude is getting very tiresome. Donnie Smith is no angel. I am a little shocked that he has forgotten the basis that every person in the United States of America is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Smith’s email shows that he is obviously not of this mind set and believes anyone accused is guilty until they prove themselves innocent, “Sheriff Ross clearly violated ethical standards by tipping off a sexual [predator],” Smith said in his email. “If Sheriff Ross does not step down, I will resign my association with MSA.” Smith goes further to argue that the Attorney Generals office doesnt know what they are talking about… I guess Donnie didnt mention in his resume that he too had a law degree…
Donnie Smith you need to shut your big mouth…stop looking for press coverage…and just do your job in YOUR LANE!!!!!!
Sheriff Ross…I am sorry for your loss of a personal friend, and for the pain you are going through with the possible betrayel that has happend to you personally and to your agency. Rev Carlson was a respected member of the community…and hopefully the State Police can wrap this investigation up quickly and determine if there was in fact truth behind the allegations or not.
Donnie Smith..you are not a beacon of integerity…you are disgusting …shame on you
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you for your refreshing sanity here in the midst of the mob.
Deputy Attorney General Stokes has stated ” no laws were violated”. What does Sheriff Smith not understand about the laws he is to enforce? Sheriff Story explains Sheriff Ross’ comment intending to restrict the Rev. Carlson from access to the county jail. I think Sheriff Smith could better utilize his time on more important matters.
I have strong misgivings about trusting a police force who’s head honcho tips off pedophiles about investigations being conducted on them.
No one jumps off of a bridge because he is innocent. Maybe Ross pushed him? Good set-up gone bad?
How would you know why anyone jumps off a bridge? Are you a psychiatrist? Your recent post doesn’t hint at the sort of discipline of mind that psychiatry requires.
“Ross said he never shared with Carlson any specifics of the
investigation beyond telling him that, until it had run its course,
Carlson would have to relinquish his public access to the county jail as
a member of the jail’s board of visitors.”
It’s my understanding that Carlson no longer held a position at the jail.
Looks like Ross is backpedaling his way right out the door…into the unemployment line.
Only if the good citizens of Penobscot County see fit to vote for someone else.
I think as a “Reverend” he had access to “counsel” prisoners, he was no longer a County employee. I agree with you on the rest. Ross needs to go.
Once law enforcement said too little That disturbed some citizens. Now (in my humble opinion) they say far too much. THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADAMY should once again teach them how to avoid coment.
Donnie Smith should be more concerned about what is going on with his own County. Get your drugs and crimes related to drugs, under control.
Whitewash and cover up — the same result you get when the AG’s office “investigates” the murder of a citizen by a law enforcement officer.
You are so right Sam….this “whitewash and cover up” have worked out so well for all concerned.
Do you actually believe what you type or are you just looking for attention?
Same as the Greenleaf case.
By informing Mr. Carlson that he was the subject of an investigation for possible sexual misconduct against a child or children, Sheriff Ross gave him the lead time needed to take the coward’s way out, as well as to destroy any evidence that could have broadened the scope of the investigation. EVEN IF Mr. Carlson had not committed suicide, he easily could have gotten rid of damning evidence with the tip from Sheriff Ross, so that when ME State Police detectives knocked on his door, computer, journals and other potentially incriminating evidence could be long gone. A SHERIFF would not have considered this possibility?! At the least that is called obstructing an investigation! As it was, in the hours between Ross’ call and Carlson’s suicide, I imagine Mr. Carlson was very busy “cleaning up”. One has to wonder what else might have gone over the Penobscot Narrows Bridge that morning!
Rationalizations from Sheriff Ross do not outweigh the damage done by betraying the ME. State Police CID’s directive to NOT share the information with the suspect. Once again, a man in a position to know better has behaved in a way that defies sensibilities when it comes to protecting Carlson. From an intuitive perspective, it seems there is much more to this story than meets the eye–yet thanks to Ross, I doubt most of us will ever know the full depth and breadth of it!
“As it was, in the hours between Ross’ call and Carlson’s suicide, I imagine Mr. Carlson was very busy “cleaning up”….
Thankfully, our system of justice relies on factual evidence, and not the wild imaginings of of the lynch mob.
Looks like the times have’nt changed all that much, when the so called pillar’s of the community are “accused’ of horrible acts, and if a kid “accused a well respected and well connected “pillar” well, that childs own Daddy or other beloved male family member would have been brought in questioned and sometime even charged with the crime.
What an everlovin’ ongoing mess!
just the tip of a pedophile iceberg
Monday August 8, 2005 Longtime FBI agent sentenced to prison on child porn count
http://www.fbi.gov/kansascity/press-releases/2010/kc033110.htm
also see http://www.policeone.com/news/113935-Longtime-Idaho-FBI-Agent-Sentenced-for-Possessing-Child-Porn/
By JOHN MILLER
Associated Press Writer
BOISE, Idaho (AP) A longtime FBI agent who helped arrest mountain-man Claude Dallas and was involved in a deadly 1984 siege involving white supremacists in Washington state is going to prison for 12 months after pleading guilty to possession of child pornography.
William Buie, 64, of Boise, most recently worked as an investigator for the Idaho attorney general’s office.
February 22, 2007
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/022007/02232007/262383
SPOTSYLVANIA, Va. A F.B.I. analyst has been sentenced to seven years in prison for having sex with a young girl in Spotsylvania County.
Forty-four-year-old Anthony John Lesko entered an Alford plea yesterday in Spotsylvania County Circuit Court to nine counts of felony indecent liberties upon a child. An Alford plea means Lesko doesn’t admit guilt but believes there is enough evidence for a conviction.
Authorities say Lesko engaged in a sex act with her nine times, beginning when she was nine years old.
According to the plea, Lesko said he was a victim in the case. He said the girl initiated the contact.
FBI Agent Accused Of Masturbating In Public
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2010/12/ex-fbi_agent_sentenced_to_pris.html
May 25, 2007 09:02 PM
FBI Agent Accused Of Masturbating In Public
Posted by, Marissa Pasquet KOLD News 13 News Editor
FBI Special Agent Ryan Seese, 34, is facing sex offense charges after a cleaning woman said she found him masturbating in a women’s lavatory on campus, according to a University of Arizona police spokesman.
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Funny I was going to hire a private investigator I watch someone . Then 2 law enforcement officers cam to my door and told me tampering with a federal investigation was punishable with a year in jail. I had no idea they were already watching this person.
What Ross told Carson apparently caused him “extreme mental anguish” enough that he ended his own life. Don’t people sue for this kind of thing and get big bucks?
Imagine…
Carlson gets tipped off. He find the young man that has acused him, Carlson kills the guy.
That could be wrongful death.
Imagine…
Carlson didnt get tipped off. He went about his day as usual. State police contact him, question him and make sure he appears to be stable enough to walk out.
I fell that this is no different than if Ross tipped off the local bath salt dealer. Part of that job is TIGHT LIPS. Not to be out gossiping!
know what you mean
Prosecutors move to dismiss charges against former Scout leader
January 3, 2007
NEW HAVEN, Conn. –Federal prosecutors have moved to dismiss charges against a retired FBI agent who was indicted on child sex charges dating back more than a decade when he was a Boy Scout leader, in response to the death of his accuser.
William Hutton, 63, of Killingworth, was arrested in February on charges he enticed a member of his Scout troop to Maine for the purpose of sexual activity in 1994 and 1995.
Imagine… Carlson turns out to be innocent of the accusations against him. And you’re out gossiping. Wait for the investigation’s conclusions before indulging in your fantasies.
With 205 comments on this story and still counting I suspect this is a good indicator
that Maine voters and taxpayers, the primary consumers and owners of the criminal justice system want to determine whether Sheriff Ross is culpable of criminal activity and keep him or charge him with a crime.
The Bangor Volunteer Civilian Police Review Board with subpoena powers would be the perfect vehicle
to allow Bangorians to be participants not just recipients in the criminal justice system.
Here is a partial list of some cities already doing it.
http://www.nacole.org/resources/police-oversight-worldwide
http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/reports98/police/
http://www.cabq.gov/council/completed-reports-and-studies/police-oversight-task-force-report
You do know what to do,eh?
Have you written you elected representative asking that they sponsor a bill for you? Hmmmmm?
Yep got a response back not interested
Also contacted Ann Haskell Chair of Criminal Justice committee Not interested
Also contacted Cain Not interested
I heard that the State Attorney says what Ross did was not illegal. Wow. Unbelievable. What if Carlson had hurt or killed his long-time victim after hearing this? Or Carlson had destroyed evidence (which he might have done, we’ll never know now).
Not illegal? Something’s wrong here.
this was in today’s news
January 19, 2012
Clarkston cop tipped off drug dealers http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/fbi-clarkston-cop-tipped-1309066.html
Lets see, a law enforcement officer telling a suspect that he is the subject of an investigation. What is the problem here?
I know Glenn Ross personally, he is a straight shooter and a class act. We need more of guys like him, not less. Dont belive everything you read on these pages.
could not agree with you more
for example this FBI was in charge of investigating other FBI agents for misconduct
FBI Agent Pleads Guilty to Child Abuse
Tuesday February 17, 2004 11:46 PM
By JOHN SOLOMON
Associated Press Writer
https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1077052156
WASHINGTON (AP) – The former chief internal watchdog at the FBI has pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 6-year-old girl and has admitted he had a history of molesting other children before he joined the bureau for what became a two-decade career.
John H. Conditt Jr., 53, who retired in 2001, was sentenced last week to 12 years in prison in Tarrant County court in Fort Worth, Texas, after he admitted he molested the daughter of two FBI agents after he retired. He acknowledged molesting at least two other girls before he began his law enforcement career, his lawyer said.
They all are a bunch of criminals!
Not all , just the Police Chiefs and Sheriffs….LOL
We know the close friend of FBI Director Hoover was Roy Cohn who was a pedophile and the famous interview with Mrs Rosensteil by Anthony Summers where she saw Hoover dressed up as a woman who called himself Mary. see http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&site=&q=roy+cohn+pedophile&oq=roy+cohn+pedophile&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2621l9316l0l10017l18l18l0l6l1l0l311l2477l0.5.5.2l12l0
What the media has done is ignore the rest of the interview where Ronsensteil says she saw Hoover having sex with boys. see
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2781595/posts
Chill out not all Police Chiefs are bad LOL
Police Chief Lured By Xbox 360; Pleads Guilty to Stealing Evidence
Jan 18th 2012
http://www.ticklethewire.com/2012/01/20/police-chief-lured-by-xbox-360-pleads-guilty-to-stealing-evidence/
boo hoo what about the aledged victim after ross tipped of his buddy carlson about an investigation carlson goes and makes contact with this aledged victim for what?to try to intimidate him not to testify? verbally or physically abuse him one last time? kill him? this those people like ross thinks there was nothing to it no harm no foul.This egregious unprofessional and unethical conduct on the part of ross could have resulted in the victim being victimized again by the very people sworn to protect him.This mind set has no place within our law enforcement community period!
I think I have missed something about this. I thought that the relationship that Mr Carlson had with this person had been going on for 30 years. Doesn’t that sound like it was consensual even if it wasn’t ethical?
Of course he tipped his friend off, so stop hiding and
trying to say it was anything else. Most everybody would have tipped off a
lifelong friend, its called being human. As far as Waldo
County’s Sheriff Scott
“…told the BDN on Thursday that it apparently was an oversight that
Ross’ concerns about Reverend Carlson’s jail access were not mentioned in the
report. This man is a prime example of how those enforcing the law excuse their
fellow officer’s improprieties. This report substantiates Sheriff Ross’s
actions as a friend informing Reverend Carlson of an investigation. It does not
substantiate his informing Reverend Carlson his services at the Jail were
suspended, but I believe as a technicality the Sheriff did as a secondary
conversation. The sole reason that Sheriff Ross participated in the
conversation was in fact to forewarn his friend of the investigation. This
official report stands as would any other investigative report, unless Sheriff
Scott wishes to discharge his investigating officer(s), and break out his big
boy Crayola’s changing the report underhandedly for a fellow law
enforcement brethren. Gentlemen possibly there is a lesson in here for all of
you in the death of Reverend Carlson, and it may be its time to be a bit more
forthright, upright, and exemplify the standards of which you hold office. You
will need to determine each part as it applies to your own careers and lives.
The road you are headed down presently is not a good one at all.