PORTLAND, Maine — The Maine Republican Party declared Mitt Romney the winner of its presidential caucuses on Saturday, but narrow second-place finisher Ron Paul said he wasn’t ready to concede the state until all communities had caucused.
According to unofficial results announced Saturday evening by Maine GOP Chairman Charlie Webster, Romney received 2,190 votes, or 39 percent, in a presidential preference poll held during statewide caucuses in the last few weeks. Paul finished second with 1,996 votes, or 36 percent.
The preference poll was nonbinding and separate from actual caucus delegates but was used by the state to determine a winner.
Supporters of Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and front-runner, said his Maine win ends a string of defeats early last week.
Peter Cianchette, the Maine chairman for the Romney campaign and a former candidate for governor, said his candidate received broad support across the state despite a strong push by Paul.
“This was clearly a win and I think Maine showed him tremendous support,” Cianchette said.
“It’s good news. I’m hopeful this ends Romney’s little slide,” Maine House Speaker Robert Nutting added. “Romney is the best candidate to beat President Obama in the fall.”
The campaign for Paul, a longtime Texas congressman, said the narrow margin in Maine coupled with the fact that a number of state Republicans did not participate in the preference poll suggests the announcement may have been premature.
“Today’s results show once again that Congressman Paul’s campaign for liberty and a return to Constitutional principles is strong and growing,” Paul’s national campaign chairman Jesse Benton said in a statement. “We are confident that we will control the Maine delegation for the convention in August.”
For weeks, Maine had been considered a race between Romney and Paul and both candidates spent time in the state on Saturday to solidify support.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum did not actively campaign here and it showed. Santorum took 989 votes, or 18 percent of Maine’s presidential preference poll, while Gingrich received 349 votes, or 6 percent.
Ruth Summers, vice chair of the Maine GOP, said while it’s true that the presidential preference poll is nonbinding, it does “take the pulse of the Republican party in the state of Maine.”
A similar poll was used in Missouri early last week, a state Santorum carried, although some referred to that state as little more than a beauty contest.
Summers said the results announced Saturday in Maine would not change even though some towns had not participated. A handful of communities are scheduled to hold theirs later this month. Washington County Republicans were supposed to caucus Saturday but canceled on Friday because of pending snow.
Washington County GOP Chairman Chris Gardner told the Associated Press that he was not aware that his county’s preference poll results would not be counted.
“Refusal to reconsider under those circumstances would be extremely disheartening,” he said. “I trust that the party will make the right decision here.
“We will proceed next Saturday. We’ll have our vote and we are going to submit it to the state party for them to reconsider.”
State delegates are chosen during the individual caucuses and 24 of those will become national delegates to represent Maine at the GOP convention in August. Maine’s delegates are nonbinding and not pledged to any candidate but, historically, a nominee is chosen by convention time so those delegates usually go to that nominee.
About 150 prominent state Republicans attended the Maine Republican Party event on Saturday at the Regency in Portland.
Originally, several were scheduled to speak, including Nutting, Attorney General William Schneider and Secretary of State Charlie Summers. However, in order to release the results ahead of the evening news, the schedule was condensed.
Only U.S. Sen. Susan Collins spoke. She was introduced after Webster announced that Maine Republicans “broke caucus attendance records from Fort Kent to Kittery.”
“It doesn’t surprise me that we’ve had record turnout because the stakes are so high,” she said, adding that no matter who the candidate is, “we’ll all unite to elect a Republican president this fall.”
“We must not be the first generation to pass along to the next generation an America that is less free, that is less prosperous, that provides less opportunity,” Collins continued. “We Republicans have the vision, the ideas, the commitment and the candidates to ensure that that is not America’s fate.”
Paul was holding an event in Portland as well. Summers said the candidate was invited to the Maine GOP party but she wasn’t sure why he declined the invitation.
Sam Spencer, representing Maine for the Democratic National Committee, said Romney shouldn’t consider Saturday a decisive victory.
“He won with 50 percent of the vote in 2008 and beat Paul by more than 30 percent that year,” Spencer said. “I think the result in Maine shows that there is still a significant lack of enthusiasm for Romney.”
Spencer said he thinks the longer the GOP race drags on, the better it is for President Obama.
The Republican nomination fight now moves to Arizona and Michigan later this month, followed by Super Tuesday on March 6, during which 10 states will hold primaries or caucuses.
Earlier in the day Saturday, Romney received more good news: He won the straw poll at at the Conservative Political Action Conference with 38 percent of the vote, followed by Santorum with 31 percent. Most rank Romney as the least conservative of the four candidates left in the race.
However, Politico reported earlier Saturday that a recent PPP tracking poll showed Santorum ahead of Romney, thanks in large part to Santorum’s wins in Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri earlier this week.
So how do you Ron Paul supporters feel now?
Keep telling yourself he will win the election but sadly you are 100% wrong.
Keep telling yourself Romney is going to win, and you’ll be sorry when you have four more years of Obama.
I never said Romney is going to win, now did I?
As for Obama for four more years. I would prefer him than Romney. I don’t care for either but as I have stated before, Obama is the lesser of the two evils.
Mitt Romney’s top financial campaign contributors:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
Obama’s top campaign contributors in 2008:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
See any similarities?
So that is your retort?
My retort is Obama and Romney are the same. It doesn’t matter which one of the two wins. Goldman Sachs will be happy either way.
Well Obama does not wear magic underwear, so they are far from the same.
LOL….that is YOUR retort?
LMFAO!!
I was just pointing out a fact and nothing more.
When you LYFAO does your magic underwear ride up?
“Obama does not wear magic underwear”
R U sure ?
How come most of your comments focus on body-parts and clothing from below the belt line?
Just asking.
Most of my comments? Huge swing and a miss and the magic underwear also covers the torso.
“As for Obama for four more years. I would prefer him than Romney. I don’t care for either but as I have stated before, Obama is the lesser of the two evils.”
Is that because Obama ‘s church MIGHT be racist, too,
but at least it is really Christian ?
; )
Romney had to cheat to get this very narrow “win”.
If you really believe that Washington County (very strong Ron Paul territory) canceled the entire county’s caucus schedule because of a minor snow storm (in Maine in February for cripes sake!) – you are a fool.
When this nasty little gamesmanship by tthe establishment gets publicized, Romney will look much worse than if he had just been honest and taken his lumps with the loss.
Romney has won nothing but a symbolic straw poll which was just a beauty contest. Each precinct elects delegates to the convention. Today, Paul got 8, Romney got 8, Santorum 4, and Gingrich 1. There are 3 more to get elected next weekend.
If Paul gets two of those delegates next weekend, he wins the state. Delegates are what matters, not the votes of less than 6,000 people. That’s the difference between a caucus and a primary.
So do you suppose Charlie Webster will get up in front of the cameras and announce Ron Paul’s actual win with as much fanfare as he announced Mitt Romney’s pretend win?
Charlie said no new votes will be counted. That leaves Washington County out in the cold…..as usual.
We feel like we’re collecting delegates. Like our candidate is the tortoise as opposed to the hare. Like our election process sucks, but our candidate is smart enough to know how to work it. Any other questions?
“So how do you Ron Paul supporters feel now ?”
Disenfranchised ?
Maine GOP chairman says Mitt Romney wins caucuses … but due to the secretive process no one is really sure .
Here we go, my guy didn’t win so it has to be a “secretive process”,’ nobody really knows”, they cheated him. Blah, Blah, Blah. My guy didn’t win either that’s because no one has shown me that they can be a leader.
What part of the GOTea Party establishment saying that Ron Paul CAN’T win,
don’t you naive people understand ?
They should post the votes of every individual caucus so their count can be verified.
MaineGOP does have individual caucus results posted in the following file. Please verify your caucus results if you know them.
http://www.mainegop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me_gop_caucus_results.pdf
MaineGOP does have individual caucus results posted in the following file. Please verify your caucus results if you know them.http://www.mainegop.com/wp-con…
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where’s all the totals for Waldo County?
The election fraud the Republicans should be investigating is their own party’s.
Romney won Iowa, until he didn’t, and then half the candidates can’t get it together to even get on the ballot in other states.
And we’re supposed to let them be in charge?
All those Counties whose name begins with the letter “W” don’t seem to count.
Those were uh….lost….as soon as they are fixed to show the desired “winner” they will be released.
Where’s Waldo? :) Sorry couldn’t resist!
LOL
county municipality Romney Paul Santorum Gingrich Other
Penobscot Bangor 26 36 9 4 2
http://www.mainegop.com/wp-con…
After seeing that, did someone decide that they did not like the trend ?
Some of Maine’s caucuses were postponed and not held today. State Republican Chairman Charlie Webster said, “Their results will not be factored in. The absent votes will not be factored into this announcement after the fact.”
Romney allegedly beat Ron Paul by 194 votes in Maine. The caucuses that were postponed are in areas where Ron Paul has tremendous support. The political powers simply could not stomach letting Ron Paul win and having that be on the minds of voters for 2 weeks before the next states vote. They have even decided that the results from those postponed caucuses will not be factored in to the count. I thought we lived in democracy? The people of Maine need to really raise a stink about this!
Charlie Webster is an expert in vote fraud.
He’s Maine’s Cheney except not as smart.Have a puppet and pull the strings.Just don’t give him a gun.
Of course he is….He’s a Republican.
Imagine if several hundred showed up for the caucus next week…
Good show, Willard! https://www.facebook.com/BillionairesForRomney
Remember Dole and McCain? No difference here. And, Senator Collins, you have been in lockstep with the current president, so do not say we will get a Republican elected, because your votes have given Obama the edge in taking down America. The stakes were high when you voted for the stimulus package and the Obama non healthcare bill, and you failed us.
In case you have never visited Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, or other New England states…they are much more liberal. No republican would ever be elected there with positions that work in Alabama and Georgia. That is the way it works. Sometimes NE republicans must cave and support someone from the deep south that they don’t agree with. It is still better than Obama.
“The results announced Saturday included about 90 percent of the towns
that participated in caucuses but Summers said that would be considered
the final vote.”
Really? Seriously? Mr. Webster does this mean that Republican votes don’t count unless they vote for who you want to win???
And why bother with a “non-binding” vote?
Voter fraud robs the people of the power to change anything! Please make sure that the exit polls match the results that wind up being reported for your precinct.
Pretty sure the first list of numbers you’re referring to are the actual Delegate counts nationwide, not the voters at that particular caucus. However, given the recent history of “questionable” vote counting practices and procedures in the Republican primaries (I remember hearing a lot of discrepancies last cycle as well), it wouldn’t surprise me to see some amount of fraud taking place. After all, who doesn’t want a 4th term for Bush? :p
Paul 2012 :)
Statistically, there can be a point where the winner has sufficient votes to prove a win.
Except when the pretend “win” is by a lot fewer votes than those not yet counted and the uncounted votes are in a stronghold of the supposed “2nd place” candidate.
At the very least the appearance is one of corruption and cheating. At worst — they are cheating and defrauding voters of their right to have their vote count.
What do you mean by in a stronghold. Does Romney posess so much power he can do this without the people of this state demand a total count? Maybe we should all just stay home amd email Washington to pick whomever they want. Seems like that’s what they are doing. Who knew Romney was so corrupt. A proud man would want to win fairly or not at all. Ron Paul call for investigations in this.
I was referring to the rural counties as Ron Paul strongholds.
I agree with you. Romney did not win anything and may well lose.
Cheating to declare a “win” that doesn’t exist smells of desperation. His own campaign’s poll numbers for super Tuesday must look horrible for him to resort to this kind of deception in a tiny state like Maine just so he can dishonestly claim “momentum”.
With less than 200 votes more than his top rival, this is hardly one of them.
Not with at least a county and a half not counted and less than 200 votes difference between 1st and 2nd.
Isn’t it fraud to voters to not add up all the votes? Disenfranchisement is nasty. What about those not counted. Do they not deserve their vote counted? Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Hope all you people ask questions on this. They better not try this in my state.
If your state is run by R’s,guard against it.They are experts at committing any and all kinds of fraud of any type.
And it was actually only 83 and change percent. “about 90”, huh? Closer to 80 than 90.
It sounds like 2000 Presidential election in Florida.
Caucuses canceled in Washington County, less than 84% precincts reported and Chairman Charlie Webster gives the “final score”.
Charlie Webster must voluntarily withdraw from the Chairmanship or must be fired.
We are at Miami-Dade, Broward and Volusia counties level.
God help us if we sink that far.
It ain’t over til the fat lady sings and she will be singing loud come November. My thanks as a Democrat to Paul LePage for making a Republican win about as probable as snow in August : )
such horrible dishonesty
We must destroy the Republican establishment.
Gee from what I can see they are doing a hell of a good job destroying it all by themselves. One whole county and a large part of another haven’t even voted and they declare a winner. If this wasn’t so serious it would be funny. The republicans have gone nuts.
AGREED
To you, the establishment must include the millions of moderates and less-than-rabid conservatives who stand in the way of a far right takeover of the Republican Party. A mutiny requires more people and more money than the far right happens to have, thankfully. You people are pathetic…if you don’t get your way, you want to destroy us. Romney won the CPAC straw poll, which means there is a large percentage of reasonable conservatives like me.
Shouldn’t your statement have been “we must get Obama out of the White House?”
Please, leave the talking points out of this. You support an man who supports the NDAA and would have signed it just as Obama did. Our constitution is being burned in the street and ignorant folks such as you are standing there dumping gas on the fire. Romney is no friend of liberty, as he has stated outright. The pathetic folks out there are those that are trashing the constitution, voting for the next wannabe-tyrant Robamney.
romney isnt even a conservative anyways.
Romney won because the winner the last two years at CPAC wasn’t there.
$41B for just the Koches alone,not to mention Adelson.etc. can do plenty of damage.
What we need is to do away with political parties altogether. People need to start voting on the issues, and not just blindly voting based on party.
Also, the Democratic party is just as crazy, you’ve heard of Nancy Pelosi I’m sure? Or maybe Obama who is bothered by how difficult the founding fathers made it for him to do what he would like to do, which he has said numerous times. I have always found it kind of funny how you never hear about that kind of stuff. Now, don’t get me wrong, I am not a Republican. There are crazy Republicans, but there are equally as many crazy Democrats, Libertarians, etc.
I love that “we aren’t really that much worse than them, no good at all, others”, argument.
I get a big kick out of it, every time.
why? because its true? parties dont seem to really matter much anymore. they both do all the same things.
Be it true or just done out of ignorance, no matter,
but the last resort of a cornered conservative partisan, saying :
“At least we are not much worse than them”
‘.. is not ever a good enough reason enough to vote for anyone, is it ?
But I not only support your right to keep saying it,
I encourage it.
TTFN
no your right thats no reason to vote for either party, in fact its a good reason not to vote for either party.
Yeah, it is funny when a conservative says that as a last resort, or a liberal. It is like a fanboy who will lie, and cheat to defend their positions.
Fortunately for me, I am neither. I am simply trying to defend the target of comments like the one I replied to. “We must destroy the Republican establishment” as if the alternatives are any better. Because we all know Republicans are crazy and simply do nothing more than try to slow progress while the Democrats are all knowing. Both parties have good ideas, and bad ideas. I am simply trying to argue that both parties are pretty messed up, so instead of sticking by your party and acting as a fanboy, we should be open minded and base our opinions on facts not emotions and our desire to “protect” our parties honor.
So it wasn’t a last resort “by a conservative”, as I am not a conservative, it was simply a statement that is pretty well based in reality.
Some of my best friends are real conservatives.
“which he has said numerous times.”
I have never once seen this in a credible news source. Do you have a citation to a non partisan valid news site to back yup your wild claims?
Here is a video from last week:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/02/06/obama_on_being_president_you_get_better_as_time_goes_on.html
Same video here (YouTube):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp8ZESkgIcg
It is from an interview with Matt Laeur on NBC. He has said this other times as well, but audio/video of him saying these things is hard to come by, as it stands it took me a bit of time to find these clips despite only being a week old, basically this clip isn’t all over the place so you have to really look for it.
Get real! Obama said some people, not himself particularly, are frustrated that he has not done everything that he promised and then explains that the founders intentionally made it difficult for any President to ram through their agendas without checks and balances. Nice way to try and twist things around.
Thanks
Of course you must realize that your links do not support your statement.
Good to see you are admitting you were wrong.
Well, you can interpret it how you wish I suppose.
That is freedom, and it is good thing.
Some people seem to have issues about that and how it is a system based on all rights having reciprocal properties.
But that is just the function of your own freedom , naturally,
being consistent with universal ethical code called The Golden Rule.
The high road might here… : http://www.foldvary.net/works/ue1.html
But putting their wedge issues in more plain terms is :
Bill Maher On Anti-Science Republicans: ‘Not One Believes Global …
http://youtu.be/06R-qTXfVYE
At about 3: 30 he starts his rant specifically speaking in terms of issues and how if one does understand that not letting your issues go, they become unnatural and unhealthy.
Connect the dots ?
Do you have a “Non-Partisan” site in mind??? Lol
But really my all time favorite was Nancy when she said “We have to PASS this Bill to know what’s in it”.
Pretty much everything she says is stupid. It is funny how obsessed everyone was with the stupid stuff Palin said, yet no one seemed to care about Pelosi, when it was Pelosi who was the one leading the House. Whereas Palin was nothing more than a public figure with no control or power.
That is not such bad point if you are playing poker with clowns who can’t compromise.
Go to AmericansElect.com.Worth a look.
“We must destroy the Republican establishment.”
Don’t you mean TEA must destroy the Republican establishment ?
Leave them alone!!!!
They can do it on their own!
AGREED
really???… so I guess Washington and northern Hancock County Republicans don’t get to have their say???
The Washington County Super Caucus, which covers the entire county basically, and the towns in northern and eastern Hancock County , which includes my entire district, have our caucuses scheduled for Feb 18th, and with that slim of a margin, no one should be declaring victory in Maine just yet…
Why can’t Maine voters get all their voting done at the same time. If you did then no Charlatain could rob you of your votes. I am glad I don’t live in your state. If I did this would be on my agenda to find out why this state vote should be over. Webster does not speak for everyone.
They could–it’s the way Democrats in Maine run their caucuses.
Huh ?
Whose caucuses were these ?
AND … why isn’t the plural cock-eye ????
The caucuses we have been talking about in this article are the Republican Party caucuses. Unlike Maine Republicans, Maine Democrats hold all of their caucuses on the same day. This year, that is February 26. The times and locations are here: http://www.mainedems.org/location.html
county municipality Romney Paul Santorum Gingrich Other
Penobscot Bangor 26 36 9 4 2
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Do ya suppose someone looked at that and decided that Down the Bay, (Waldo County),
Up North, (THE County) and Downeast ( Washington County) might be part of a trend that was NOT in the script ?
” Summers said the results announced Saturday in Maine would not change even though some towns had not participated.”
Another victory for DIEBOLD
Now wait just one tater pickin minute here. The votes are not all counted and “Crazy” Charlie Webster is declaring a winner?????? Gosh that doesn’t sound right to me. Does it sound right to you? How can you declare someone a winner in a close race when you haven’t counted all the votes yet? The republicans sure are a funny bunch aren’t they. They spend all kinds of time worrying about voter fraud and then they announce a winner before the votes are all counted in their own caucus.
Romney was declared the victor in today’s poll, not the caucus winner. Webster, as much as it pains me to say it, said as much. Today’s announcement was just an opportunity to get his face on the national stage and give Maine’s process some exposure, nothing more.
Just like Missouri’s vote earlier this week, today was just a beauty contest. There won’t be a winner declared until later this month. Breath a little easier.
So what you are telling me is that the party that is soooooo concerned about voter fraud holds a caucus where people are supposed to vote for the candidate of their choice and then doesn’t wait until all the votes are counted before they declare a winner. If that is the case why hold the caucus in the first place just let “Crazy” Charlie and a few of his friends decide who wins.
The Republican establishment went so far as to cancel all of the scheduled Washington County caucus events because of a very minor snow storm. Washington County is a Ron Paul stronghold and their ludicrous decision does not pass the smell test.
Since when is an election in Maine in February canceled for less than 5″ of snow?
And considering that as the week went on the storm was DOWNGRADED.Mainers will go out in any weather for church,town meetings,etc.My town meeting was held 2 years ago during a major storm.Power flickered during it but not an empty seat in the house.
The storm hit Washington County harder than other parts of Maine it snowed all afternoon and into the night. WC is a big county that is spread out. They should have had the caucus early in the day before the snow started.
Each precinct elects delegates to represent them but attendees get to vote in a straw poll, as well. Today, the precincts voted Paul and Romney each 8 delegates, Santorum 4, Gingrich 1, and 3 remain unelected based on those precincts that have yet to vote.
While Romney won the straw vote among all attendees that participated today, it means nothing. Those last three delegates will determine who wins the contest. Paul could still end up winning and it won’t be a surprise if he does.
FREEDUMB LOVING GOP sends message: “Handsome is better than smart”.
STUDY: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
New Study shows Liberals have a lower average IQ than Conservatives.
Granted this isn’t a new study it was published last summer but my point is there is a study for everything and just because one says something doesn’t make it correct
http://iahymnewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/new-study-shows-liberals-have-a-lower-average-iq-than-conservatives/
You just proved your own point:)
Yeah I suppose I did ;) lol
There’s nothing handsome about Romney.
As a 14 year member of the Maine GOP I am calling for the resignation of Charlie Webster as the State Chairman. It is clear as day that voter fraud happened and for him to give the victory to Mitt Romney without considering the votes of the GOP members in Washington County, half of Hancock County and many of the smaller town in the State shows that Mr. Webster is nothing but a hack that needs to be replaced.
“Hack” doesn’t due justice to Mr. Webster. He is at least a couple rungs below hack.
Traitor! Is a better word.
We do not like this trend , so to the North or East of here:
county municipality Romney Paul Santorum Gingrich Other
Penobscot Bangor 26 36 9 4 2
http://www.mainegop.com/wp-con…
… your votes don’t count.
“Summers said the results announced Saturday in Maine would not change even though some towns had not participated.”
Period.
This explains his obsession with voter fraud.
He wants the Maine franchise on it.
Yah, let’s replace him with someone more trustworthy like the second half of the “Crazy Charlie Duo” Charlie Summers or perhaps Bruce Poliquin or…or…or… darn it, dishonest “Hacks that need to be replaced” describes everyone in the darn party. Perhaps you should simply consider giving Crazy Charlie a 13th chance to redeem himself from saying and doing questionable things that embarrass his entire party as well as everyone in the State of Maine? Or not, it’s always fun watching his antics.
Charlie’s only claim to fame these days is that he is less of an embarrassment than our governor.
A low bar for sure.
Shush now Tyke, don’t be giving these folks any ideas about running Crazy Charlie up against our current embarrassment of a leader in 2014. Given more time to speak I’m pretty sure Crazy Charlie could compete on the embarrassment scale with “Paulie Wants To Make Koch Brothers Happy” LePage.
LePage will be lucky to make it to 2014 without being recalled. I hear it’s already being organized…… 61 % er here !!!!
A pleasant thought for sure, but sadly a “Recall” is not an option in our State’s constitution. The best we can do is cripple him (More than he does himself) with our votes next November by removing enough Republican/Teas from their House and Senate seats to give the majority of both back to the Democrats. After which all we’ll need hear from Paula is a constant gravel voiced quack-quack from the lamest duck to ever waddle through the Blaine House.
And you can add Charlie White.Indiana’s R Secretary Of State,complaining about voter fraud,now convicted of it.Bring back Charlie the Tuna.
I love how this wasn’t even the lead story on the BDN,following a pop singer’s death.
6K voting out of a population of 1.4M.Yawn.
The BDN reported that, “Out of Maine’s 258,000 registered Republicans, nearly 5,600 cast ballots in the weeklong voting.” Is this an error in reporting, perhaps a typo? Can the Republicans/Tea Party members in Maine really be this dispassionate about who they want to run up against President Obama? If so then this race may be over before it began.
It is about the same number as participated in 2008,not counting the areas still to vote on the 18th.There’s hope for America if that few R’s care.Turnout is down in every state except for SC so far.
Obama works harder at comprimising with the Republicans than the “Tea Party”!
The Traditional Moderate Republicans will win either way!
The GOP is done….nobody cares. Obama will be re-elected and very few Maine citizens will cast a Republican vote after LePage. There’s no error. They know it’s futile trying to repair their tarnished image after this fiasco’. Just think of the bright side….Maine would have NEVER received World-Wide media coverage if it weren’t for LePage….even if it IS all negative. 5,600 out of 258K….LMAO !!!! There are 65,000 defenseless people that will certainly be voting in 2014….Besides if you read the news Maine is not considered a real caucus anyway……
The Tea Party is over!
They cut the Taxes so deap that the State had to Pawn the Tea Set!
Yeah or maybe replace him with Ben Grant, a real trustworthy nut….whoops, he’s already chairman of the democrat party.
Grant has more reason and intelligence in one pinky than that goofball Webster has in his whole pathetic body. Webster is a numbskull. I mean really. You are actually defending this fool, and you put actual weight into his insane yelping about “voter fraud” especially after this fiasco? Please, keep singing the praises of Webster and LePage. The Maine GOP is going to get dropped like bad habit come November.
Crazy Republicans?
You betcha!
I think Reagan was responsible by letting them all out of the State Hostpitals and giving them Vote Republican Buttons and little American Flags to wave!
…while selling the country to China. They should be wearing little Chinese flags on their lapels. You know, truth in advertising.
I recently read an opinion that all republicans should have their citizenship revoked and given a one-way ticket to China. I gotta agree.
Republicans tend to put profits in front of patriotism. We used to tar and feather people for such offenses. Now we put them on a pedestal.
Oh Pleeze. Clinton and the majority Democrat congress passed NAFTA, Clinton signed the repeal of Glass-Steagall allowing Banks to become insurance companies, and Insurance companies to become banks. Clinton Made 30 Million, mostly in speaking fees to Chinese audiences telling them how to get around US laws, and how to get K Street advocacy.
Obama bailed out banks and auto companies while leaving underwater families to drown in debt.
Don’t tell this ex-Democrat how that party “cares for workers” I’ll get sick laughing over that.
Who said anything about me being a Democrat? They are just as responsible for our current economic problems as the Republicans. I am an independent thank you. Clinton should have been run out of town on a rail.
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I don’t think the “party” will suffer any reputation loss…..Our Governor has pretty much insured a GOP enema for many elections to come….HA HA HA !!
The GOP cannot even be honest with itself! Good grief. If I were a republican and lived in one of those counties I’d be really angry.
Be angry at the county GOP that chose foolishly to have a caucus date either after the deadline, or not account for SNOWSTORMS IN FEBRUARY!
What snowstorm? All we got was a dusting. If you look at the results town by town a great many counties only had partial results counted. Not good. Is this the republican version of a democracy?
I know right? The forecast was only calling for 4-5 inches of snow. This is February in Maine granted we haven’t had all that much snow here this winter but we are used to it. Who would cancel an event for only 4-5 inches of snow? For crying out loud the Girl Scouts who had a meeting scheduled didn’t even cancel it.
Parts of Washington County received 7+ inches of snow. The roads were, and are still terrible. ALL votes should be counted. PERIOD.
The likelihood of either major party getting itself anything other than a hack for chairman is remote at best.
GOP=Fraud
What else is new ? As a 14 yr member you should know that by now……
Thank You Matt!!! Fire Charlie Webster!!!
Correct. Why not say “the Republicans that count have voted the way we want so we can be relevant to the national committee”?
LePage was our candidate? Voter fraud? I’ve had enough of his “leadership.”
Should have had voter ID’s to stop the voter fraud
Absurd. Charlie Webster didn’t force these towns to hold their caucuses *after* the deadline. This is why smart towns held them on February 4th. And victory wasn’t “handed”. Romney obtained more votes. The only people who’d say “handed” are those disappointed the candidate they’re pushing like a narcotic didn’t win.
They probably registered at the last minute and forgot their papers, “Zeig Heil”!
Charlie Webster has finally found his “voter fraud.” He has defrauded every Ron Paul voter in the state by calling the race before Washington County has voted. No Paul supporter should consider backing R-money after this travesty.
People, Remember a crime has yet to be committed, this is a trap. All
those zeroed out precincts will be stocked next Saturday with RINGERS To
win out right for wRongly. Then they will count the vote. This was to
dissolution Paul supports into not showing up. Show up and bring 10
friends. Not just Washington county Last count there were 250 precincts
not counted http://www.mainegop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me_gop_ca…
I am an independent voter.
However this has to be the most suspect primary in a while. If it was not for a brave caucus attendee who cried “foul” in Iowa the erroneous vote tally would have gave Romney the win and not the true winner Santorum. The GOP powers “lost” votes but this one person stood up to them and gave the win to Santorum. Unfortunately, this came after the NH vote which the pundits credit “Romney’s” Iowa win as momentum which propelled Mr.Romney ‘s NH win. According to Mr.Santorum’s interview on the Sunday news programs, it is said that the Romney campaign bought out the CPAC tickets. Of course it was convenient that the method of voting was changed also so the “straw voters” could vote from their computers or smartphones so they didn’t even have to show up to vote and leave. Why in the world would “conservatives” vote for a candidate who supports gun control,instituted his version of Obamacare,supports gay marriage , went after and took millions of dollars in earmarks while Governor of Mass. That is not conservatism or do they think he will flip back to what they want when elected?
I don’t know but I can tell you , if I was a Republican in those town in Aroostook, Washington, and other counties who lost their voice in this primary I would be feeling pretty disenfranchised.
MITT ROMNEY IS THE CONSERVATIVE CHOICE. Thank you for further reinforcing this CPAC, Maine. Your rationality, seriousness, & intelligence is greatly appreciated.
VIVE ROMNEY/RUBIO 2012!
I remember you from postings on other sites. You’re one of those democratic trolls who is friends with “Michael Veritas”.
^^Undercover Obaamabot troll is obvious^^
Make no mistake yall. There is an army out there of projecting, deflecting, Obaamabot shills posing as Paultards, Santorum supporters, etc. All to try to tear Mitt down more before he’s nominated.
With it being obvious only Romney is electable, this is to be expected. Still sad tho….
I agree with this assessment. Lots of bad Soros money paying their salaries.
i just dont like romney because hes basically exactly the same as obama. = whats the point of even voting this year if we have to choose between two liberals funded by goldman sachs?
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Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
Romney/Ryan?
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
Why is Maine, with so few counties, the only one not to post county by county results? Is it because so many Paul supporting towns haven’t had the opportunity to vote and be counted? This continuation of the vote counting fraud evident in other states – notably Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada – is getting beyond ridiculous. I thought people wouldn’t be taking to the streets until much later, but if they keep making such a blatant mockery of our votes, some folks aren’t going to wait long.
If you know your caucus results please verify here:
http://www.mainegop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me_gop_caucus_results.pdf
I would certainly check had my town caucused yet, along with the 47 other towns, many of which did not caucus in 2008. Hopefully these disenfranchised voters will still attend their caucuses, even though their votes clearly don’t matter. We still need delegates! But oh, maybe this is also part of the plan for first time activists who care about their country. Very discouraging to say the least.
Is the Republican party so in cahoots with the Democrats in wanting Obama reelected that they will continue these blatant assaults on Republican voters? Look at how the turnouts are dropping all over the country. Republican voters are so disgusted with the vote counting fraud that they are skipping voting altogether. Id10ts.
They had the biggest turnout for a caucus in Maine that they had ever had.
From Huffpo:
WASHINGTON — The most important thing to know about the Republican
caucuses in Maine that will report their results Saturday night is that
turnout four years ago was extremely low.
How low? Four years ago, just 5,338 Republicans participated. Total. In a state with just over a million adults eligible to vote, that amounts to a turnout rate of 0.52 percent.
How low? By comparison, as a percentage of the voting-eligible
population, the turnouts for this month’s Colorado, Minnesota and Nevada
caucuses were 2 to 3 times higher. The turnout for Iowa’s caucuses in
early January was more than 12 times higher.
Reelect Obama=vote for unelectable, D.C. insider, fiscally liberal Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, etc. OBAMA PRAYS FOR THEM.
Thanks again Maine for voting seriously, CPAC too.
A VOTE FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN ROMNEY IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA AS ONLY ROMNEY IS ACTUALLY ELECTABLE. SAYS OVER A YEAR OF POLLING. Those who deny this obvious fact are part of Obama’s undercover, posing, troll army.
VIVE ROMNEY/RUBIO 2012.
Romney is to Obama what Kerry was to Bush. Four more years.
LOL cmon man you can surely lie & distort better than THAT…..
romney practically is obama. both for gun control, bailouts, patriot act, ndaa, more wars, obamacare. i guess it doesnt really matter which one wins?
Who’s going to run on the TEA Party ticket then ?
You are obviously completely uninformed about Romney’s platform.
no. i take it upon myself to look at all candidates platforms AND ALSO WHERE THEY STOOD IN THE RECENT PAST. he changes his mind suddenly when running for president on several of these key issues and you trust him?
Yeah, you’re right.
Mitt isn’t like Kerry. Mitt’s pandering flip floppery makes Kerry look like the most steadfast human in the history of mankind,
Worrying about changing your mind… flip flopping …. is just sooo 2000 and 0-something.
Now, you better not even compromise, without even really changing your mind.
And so can you, Carlos Woundedangel Garcia. Are you or are you not a paid Romney activist, as your facebook page asserts?
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
GOP will not take into account the uncounted results. What a steal. They want to stop counting because Paul would win. Stupid. They continue to alienate the Paul vote. S. Palin already warned GOP against doing that. GOP cannot win without Paul vote, which can range from 15-25%. Paul does very well vs Obama in all polls, better than Gingrich or Santorum and immediately behind Romney.
LOL there little lamb, the state has only reported 85% percent of the precincts. Now I know you bow your head and follow to the tune of the establishment GOP like the young little sheep you are, but Mr. Romney has in no way won Maine.
The wife of fiercely conservative pro-life presidential hopeful Rick
Santorum had a 6 year love affair with an abortion doctor, 40 years her
senior– who, incredibly, delivered her as a baby.
do you have a factual source to back up this allegation? If so, please cite it; otherwise, you are guilty of slander and gossip.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums-wife-Karen-love-affair-abortion-doctor.html
just read the article and you left out key points…she was 22 years old, it was over 25 years ago, she was not married to her husband at the time….those of us her age, or older, probably have had relationships when we were younger that we regret, but that is how we learn. One can have a change of heart on issues over the years. I know I have.
I find this pretty irrelevant, not repulsive like New Gringich’s past marriages, unfaithfulness during his marriages..or Romney’s money making deals with Bain where they bought up companies, raped them of their equipment, fired employees and sold the businesses…..
so who cares.
I didn’t leave out anything because I wasn’t the one who made the initial comment.
It’s nice that you’re willing to forgive and pass of these things, that’s great. But the fact remains that Santorum is very critical of those that don’t adhere exactly to his current beliefs. For example, when Santorum compares a gay couple’s relationship to beastiality, they’re not exactly getting that same kind of forgiveness from Santorum that you’re giving.
So, I’d say, I care.
I’m sure Romney was in favor of this relationship. After all, Mr. Moral Mitt Romney was pro-choice for the first 58 years of his life. So when this relationship with the older abortion doctor occured 25 years or so ago, Romney was solidly pro-murder as it applies to unborn babies.
Now, clearly this woman changed her ways and ended up marrying Rick Santorum and they have raised a very nice family and believe in God and what’s right about the country. But back to the story, Romney was probably proud that this woman befriended the older abortion doctor, because the abortion doctor was helping all those women butcher their babies, rather than rick the chance that a woman would die from an illegal abortion.
You see, that was actually Romney’s reasoning. Romney was pro-choice for the first 58 years of his life because his mom’s friend died from an illegal abortion. Romney was pro-choice when he ran against Kennedy in 1994. Romney was pro-choice when he ran for governor in 2002. Romney only changed his pro-choice position when it was time to gear up for the presidency. After all, no pro-choice Republican has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the nomination. So call me “skeptical.”
Romney has been endorsed by the largest pro-life group in MA. The group said Romney was the best friend they ever had in MA and introduced legislation for them often. LIAR
I am not a liar, but evidently you have been sold a bill of goods.
Romney campaigned in 1994 and 2002 as pro-choice. Watch his debates on youtube or do a simple Google search and learn the facts. In debates during this run for the presidency, Romney has explained how/when he evolved to his current pro-life position. When contemplating whether or not to sign a cloning bill passed by the legislature, Romney decided that the destruction of embryos was the taking of life. That bill was presented to Romney in 2005. That means that Romney was 58 years old when he changed from pro-choice to pro-life.
hes flip flopped on several key issues since running for president. = but what do you expect from a politician these days?
His religion states he will be pro life…but he has to be pro choice to uphold the “rights” of all women in “pro choice”. It is still the law..and should stay the law. No matter what our opinions on the matter is, we do not have the right to make it for every woman. IT should be her choice and she should have the medical help she needs. However, I believe she should pay for her own services and it should not be covered by insurance or the state or federal government.
So how do you explain his unwavering support for Planned Parenthood for many, many years?
Was that “required” too in your universe?
Its a law that he is suppose to uphold…plain and simple. And yes..in my universe laws are laws .
laws and support for an organization are two completely different things.
Publicly supporting (and receiving campaign support from) Planned Parenthood is not a “law”.
What are you talking about?
Well that is what a true conservative thinks..he does not stand alone on that subject~
But the point is that it’s hypocritical to demand respect and forgiveness for a guy who doesn’t seem to forgiving or accepting himself.
Why does he have to be forgiven? Has he done something wrong?
The Willard Voter Fraud attack machine’s opposition research are experts at slander and gossip. How do you think WAPO and his media get trash on any candidate who surges past him? He’s got paid staff in the media outlets. Jennifer Rubin, WAPO has openly stated “Annonymous Republican attacks on Perry, for instance, may or may not come from Romney aides”, she said during the WAPO lynching of Cain.
NO WILLARD/ endorsing Gingrich or Santorum/ anybody but Voter Fraud Willard.
What the heck?
What has that got to do with Santorum? And what is so bad about that situation..was it before she was married? If so its her business. and those types of situations happen all the time..
So?…has nothing to do with Santorum’s authentic conservatism. Gingrich’s personal failures?…nothing to do with his authentic conservatism. Willard seems to think that because he’s been married to the same woman, he’s somehow severely conservative. Shows he doesn’t have a clue what ‘conservatism’ is and cannot define something he knows nothing about and has never run with.
Where was Gingrich during Reagan….leading the biggest conservative movement in history in the House….where was Willard the liberal progressive….running to the LEFT of Ted Kennedy in another of his failed attempts to get ‘elected’. No thanks!
NOWILLARD/ endorsing Gingrich or Santorum/ anybody but Voter Fraud Willard.
MITT ROMNEY has won the plurality of conservative/rightist votes so far in the GOP nomination race.
CPAC, THE premier conservative GOP organization has rightly endorsed his free market, conservative credentials, he’s their choice.
Maine has just backed up CPAC’s decision.
I implore those of you still living in denial, your fantasy worlds, etc. to stop supporting fiscally liberal, earmark worshiping, D.C. insider Santorum. Stop supporting Ryan Bashing, Pelosi pal, D.C. insider Gingrich. Stop supporting Kuicinich foreign policy wing, fringe Ron Paul.
All are unelectable jokes on top of all that. Obama would hug you for supporting them. Time to stop being oblivious Obama surrogates, & get real, get serious & join us. Or else….you’ll just keep looking worse & worse….& more like FULL ON Obama surrogates.
Think bout it….
You Romney supporters are about as pathetic as the candidate in trying to convince conservatives that Romney is some sort of Reaganite or disciple of Goldwater or a passionate defender of the conservative movement. Fact is, most right-wingers do not view Romney as conservative. And the more Romney keeps using his ruthless Gordon Gekko political tactics to destroy the conservative credentials of the actual conservatives in the race, the harder we will work to deny him the nomination.
romneys an anti gun, big government liberal. his record proves this. this years election looks to be between goldman sachs big government liberal A and goldman sachs liberal B. i wonder who will win. will it even matter?
You don’t know what you are talking about. Romney has a high rating with the Gun Club and the NRA. You sound ignorant.
What political fist fight did Romney get into as governor to fight for 2nd Amendment rights or roll back that state’s liberal gun control laws? Romney promised, when running against Kennedy in 1994 and then for governor in 2002, to adhere to the so called assault weapons ban. The main point is that Romney is not as pro-2nd Amendment as Gingrich or Santorum. For the record, gun owners, who were upset with Clinton’s assault weapons ban and other gun control policies, were a huge block that helped Gingrich takeover the House in 1994. Nice of Mitt to work against gun owners at that crucial time.
he banned semi automatics in Massachusetts and has backed several gun control legislation federally and in Massachusetts as governor. look at what he actually has done, it speaks volumes on what he is about.
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
So are they still having the Caucus that was postponed in Washington County??
Nope.
They will just suppress Republican voter turnout in Maine in November if they disenfranchise party members that way.
That will help to flip the state legislature to the democrats.
Are they really that stupid?
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
Are you, Carlos Woundedangel Garcia, in favor of voter disenfranchisement?
Last I heard they’re still having it, but it will not be counted. Would love to know the results.
How can you be gay and support Romney or any in this bunch for that matter?
He:
-Personally signed gay marriage licenses in MA & played fair & upheld their court’s ruling after it was finalized.
-Has been a longtime friend of the Log Cabin Republicans.
-Supports hate crime legislation.
-Has said & proved REPEATEDLY that he won’t let his faith influence him on this matter.
-His pledge for a national ban, etc. is really just him throwing the social conservatives a bone. Doubt he’ll follow through.
That’s how.
Regardless of him following through or not, there won’t be a new Constitutional Amendment, especially not one that removes rights from an isolated group of people. But what about DOMA? You think Romney wouldn’t veto a repeal of that? What about ENDA?
I know Romney’s past. So I know in his heart of hearts, he’s no bigot. He’s was our friend before, & remains so. Yes he believes marriage should stay traditional, this I know. However, ROMNEY IS THE 1ST candidate in our party at this stage to actually stand up for gay rights in a debate. He cautioned against discrimination, bigotry, urged a respectful & civil course on the matter.
“Our nation was founded on the principle of, in some respects, of religious tolerance and liberty in this land, and so we welcome people of other faiths. And I happen to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and my savior,” Mr. Romney said, “but I know other people have differing views and I respect those views and don’t believe those qualify or disqualify people for leadership in our nation.”
-Willard Mitt Romney
Perfect? Hell no. Most tolerant we’ve ever had compared to past GOP nominees & presidents? You betcha.
So, in other words, you support Romney because you believe he’s just lying convincingly to get votes from southern conservatives.
I can see the bumper sticker now:
Romney for President
(He’s just kidding, so you can “trust” him)
Any one of them that says they’re going to pass a Constitutional Amendment is lying. Hundreds are proposed each year and you can see how few have gone through.
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
As a Republican in Penobscot county, I took part in the caucus process last Saturday. It was unprofessional, disorganized, and fatally flawed. I believe that once the results were known to the GOP establishment (which is not at all in touch, nor represents, your average GOP voter in Maine) from last weekend, and even though they were to be kept secret, they were leaked to the Romney campaign which resulted in his appearance in Maine this week and his media blitz. Without this last minute big dollar spending campaign by Romney, I believe he would have lost to Ron Paul in Maine. N.B. I am not a Ron Paul or Mitt Romney supporter: I voted none of the above.
I will not take part in the party caucus ever again. It is a waste of time and patently unfair. I suggest that if the Maine GOP wants to ever be taken serious that they petition the state government and fund an actual primary on the first Saturday in February. I further suggest that it not be a “first-past-the-post” primary but be run similar to the mayoral election in Portland, ME based on instant runoff voting with the winner taking all the delegates.
Using this unique, yet widely accepted voting method, I ensure you that Maine’s primary would become just as important as those contests in IA, NH, SC, and FL. This idea will help the Maine GOP, the National GOP, and increase candidate time and spending in Maine.
Romney needed a “win” so the establishment ensured that he got it. The end justifies the means it would seem.
Conspiracy theories really don’t do you any good….
And your support of someone who has demonstrated no allegiance to the Constitution does you no good. ‘Bye
LOL gotta love Paultards when they lose.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone who wants to verify these allegations.
Look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s Facebook “about” page.
By his own admission, he is a paid GOP activist for Romney.
Rigged.
“so the establishment ensured that he got it.”
Exactly.
As I said above:
What part of the GOTea Party establishment saying that Ron Paul CAN’T WIN
the election don’t the naive people get ?
No offense, but I doubt what you’re saying.
To claim that the (at the time) on-going results/sway of opinion was against Romney and that this was told to the Romney camp and that he then beat feet up there seems fishy, at best.
Romney got beat in CO, MN and MO. He knew he needed a strong showing in Maine to regain some momentum. No secretive ‘leaking’ was required to know this or to show up.
Face it, your guy, or even “none of the above” got beat by Romney.
Romney 2012, baby, Romney 2012…..
I’m more interested in the results in Waldo, Washington and Aroostook Counties than some Western States.
Please,no.Anything but more political ads.
Once again, Romney has hood-winked Republicans. Just look at his record in Massachusetts my Rural Maine Republican Friends. Better get rid of your Hunting Rifles and Firearms of any type. Romney is an Anti-gunner regardless of what he says now while he is campaigning.
I for one will not donate one red cent to the State Republican Party if they in fact vote to support Romney! They certainly are NOT REPRESENT my intrest nor those of past Republicans!
With a standard bearer like Mit Romney, looks like we’ll have another 4 years of Obama and disaster for our grandchildren and their children. Sorry, sorry situation!
LOL who do you think you’re fooling? POLLING FOR OVER A YEAR NOW HAS SAID ROMNEY & ONLY ROMNEY IS EVEN CAPABLE OF BEATING OBAMA.
You’re probably an undercover Obama supporter.
Carlos who ever you are, I certainly am not an Obama Supporter, I’ve been a Conservative Republican all my life!!
We will try not to hold that against you.
Carlos who ever you are, I certainly am not an Obama Supporter, I’ve been a Conservative Republican all my life!!
who were they polling? thats always important. i personally only vote conservative so Romney’s out of the question.
You are not only a troll, but a liar. Ron Paul polls well against Obama. And, unlike Romney who can’t even get enthusiasm out of his own party, Paul brings in voters across party lines, gets nearly half the independents, all of the anti-war voters, much of the youth Obama needed in 2008 to get elected, and many democrats.
Funny that you, a democrat troll, should accuse others of being Obama supporters. It is clear that the dems want Romney as Obama can defeat him on Romneycare and his out-of-touch-with-working-people wealth in minutes flat.
Don’t forget that the military wants Ron Paul.
Active duty military have always (2008 and 2012) given more to Paul than to ALL other candidates of BOTH parties COMBINED, but it has now grown to TWICE what they give the others.
Support the troops. Give them the Commander in Chief that they want, trust and respect. Ron Paul.
I am a Democrat and would happily vote for Ron Paul. The problem is that his own party doesn’t want him elected because he WILL NOT serve the interest of the Banks like every other Republican does. Sad but he doesn’t stand a chance as long as he’s affiliated with the GOP because he is for the People. Talk about throwing out the Federal Reserve is a BIG no-no in the GOP…..
i agree but its no different in the democratic party, obamas biggest donors are the big time wall street banks. jpmorgan, bank of america, goldman sachs, etc etc.
In a Rasmussen Poll with head to head on Romney vs Obama and Gingrich vs Obama and Paul vs Obama only Ron Paul came closest to beating Obama. Seems like we are allowing Obama to have his second term no matter how we vote. Where are our voices. Count all the votes everywhere. No more Fraud.
If that truly is the case then Democrats are in for an EZ ride in 2012…..
Look through Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s Facebook “about” page, which at this moment is open to view.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations. He is a paid GOP activist by his own admission.
Look through Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page.
He is a paid GOP activist, by his own admission.
Lori is right.
Romney has a high Gun Club and NRA rating. You need to do your homework.
ya except he banned semi automotics in massachussets while governor. has also supported other gun control legislation federally and in the state of massachusetts. not sure where his “good rating” comes from but a look at his actual record and quotes from him during that era shows that at least in the past he did not have gun owners interests in mind. well except maybe criminal gun owners.
The Mormons believe in Multiple Wives!
Do you really think that they would want them to have guns???
There are different sects. Some do polygamy, some don’t. But Mormons instruct their people to have one year’s worth of food and water for each family member – and the guns to protect them. It’s US Romney doesn’t want to have guns.
In Mass only criminal have guns. That is one state where absolute proof of the futility of gun control becomes evident. Citizens in Mass have to live in fear of criminals, and most of the police there are criminals as well so….? How is that safer ? And for who ?
Have you ever looked as Mass gun laws??
Lived there…never convicted of anything more than a speeding ticket, but could never get “permission” from the local PD which is required. I was told that it would be bad to have a gun in my neighborhood because of the high crime rate there. It could easily fall into the wrong hands they said. Can you believe that ? Not only are my UNALIENABLE rights as provided in the Constitution subject to Police “approval”…but because my neighborhood had a high crime rate an honest citizen is denied his right to protect himself and family. It wouldn’t be so bad if the Police were doing their job instead of escorting cocaine shipments through the State for their “bosses”…..
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Which speech was that ? Romney says what best serves his campaign and then does a complete 180 when he realizes it wasn’t popular. So far in his career he has spoken out AGAINST guns 3 times….he has spoken out FOR guns 2 times….should we average ?
NRA sold us out. Gun Owners of America is better now.
He’s also a close associate of every Mainers favorite person……Foxy Roxy Q : )
Aren’t those SuperPACS a great thing ? Suckers.
…disaster for our grandchildren and their children….true statement. Willard’s ‘children’, those 5 grown military eligible draft dodgers like their father, all have 100 million dollar trust funds each, set up already by the fraudulent Willard who’s only looking out for his own. Google it. Just read the story on it on Yahoo. They’re just trying to set up another ‘Kennedy Dynasty”, that’s all. What a disaster!
NOWILLARD/ endorsing Gingrich or Santorum/ anybody but Voter Fraud Willard.
This is the third Republican state caucus that has had strange vote counts and votes not counted or conservative districts voters being ignored all together. All three of those states where expected to go to the conservative but they went to Romney instead..
Where there is much smoke, there is usually a fire somewhere.
Romney won CPAC today. I think that means someone thinks he is a conservative.
You’re kidding right? CPAC is meaningless
Or it could mean that CPAC and the Heritage society are frauds who’s only goal is to keep the American working class voting against their own interests.
“it could mean that CPAC and the Heritage society are frauds who’s only goal is to keep the American working class voting against their own interests.”
How true.
But lest people think that is just along liberal/conservative lines, I’d ask ;
Do the GOP ever deliver anything to the values votes ?
No.
They need their wedge issues, not solutions.
So, for political reasons, they are solution adverse.
You support that or don’t.
By not saying you don’t, if you don’t, just breeds more “no compromise ever” extremism.
It is a war against the middle class as the $$$ is moved to the top.
Which side are your best interest on, really ?
http://forum4.aimoo.com/EZSTREET/GENERAL-DISCUSSION/Romney-wins-Maine-caucus-1-719769.html
Looks like Charlie Webster finally found that voter fraud he’s been whining about.
or as Pogo said:
“We have met the enemy and he is us. “
I don’t expect to see the heritage club doing one of their faux documentary’s about Chucky and the uncounted ballots. They have to save all their camera time for O’keefe’s sexual assault videos.
Ron Paul, no, a “loss” is not a “virtual tie”.
Romney 2012
FINALLY another rational, lucid, serious, informed, smart soul.
Is it one of your troll friends?
They share hats –check out the fb.
When fraud is committed against voters to suppress votes from two counties then the “winner” is just a cheat who has “won” nothing.
So now you think Romney controls the weather????? If those people could have voted they would have. Stop with the conspiracy theories.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
We Mainers ALWAYS cancel election for less than 5″ of snow …
… in February.
Suuuuure we do. (wink-wink)
Where is your faith ?
“So now you think Romney controls the weather????? ”
It is no more improbable than thinking that baptizing dead people makes any difference.
; )
Romney is a Bishop in the Mormon Church. You would think he could influence them to keep their promise to stop retroactively “baptizing” holocaust victims against the wishes of their families.
Dishonoring Jewish holocaust victims and their families that way is sick and despicable.
When Mormons are married and “sealed” as a family in their temple, and I was a part of such a ceremony as a child, part of the ceremonial proceedings are role playing. One such role playing scene that happens within the temple is a skit where “Lucifer” and “Jesus” come in the room from opposite sides, grasp arms and hug. Members and newly married couples are then told that “Lucifer” is a brother to Jesus and all that “Lucifer” teaches should be respected as if it was “Jesus”. How many people know this? Not many, I can guarantee. I have dissociated myself completely from this religion, though my entire family on my mother’s side are staunch members.
creepy
There were people at the caucus sites ready to vote (including me) we were told that “the caucus was postponed and we couldn’t vote. That’s not weather or a theory, it is a factual fraud.
Repubs make me chuckle. They try so hard. They keep saying the same spin over and over. Now I think they really believe it!
Demi- Gods…lol make me chuckle more…..
Maine’s little Republican establishment at it’s best! Who are the frauds?
^^Sore loser conspiracy theory fail^^
Why do you so hate Republican voters that you think it is OK to disenfranchise them?
There is no better way to suppress Republican turnout in November.
Are you a secret Obama troll?
Yes, he is. You’ll find him trolling on articles all over the web.
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
I figured he was being paid by somebody but thought it was the Willard voter fraud machine. Same difference.
NO WILLARD/ endorsing Gingrich or Santorum/ anybody but Voter Fraud Willard.
It’s not just Maine. Iowa and Nevada too. Each had a GOP leader resign after their bogus caucuses. Hope Maine follows suit. This is an insult to American voters.
It really is a telling expose to watch the Paultards here flame, spew their typical conspiracy theories in a sore loser stupor after EVERY Romney win.
Keep making yourselves look childish yall. MAINE DOESN’T WANT DR. DEMENTO. DEAL WITH IT. ROMNEY WAS CHEATED IN IA WHEN THOSE 8 PRO-ROMNEY HEAVY COUNTIES NEVER GOT COUNTED. So this is some lovely, poetic justice indeed. Didn’t decry that one did ya, hypocrites?
ROMNEY is the outsider, RP HAS BEEN D.C. ESTABLISHMENT/ISNIDER FOR 25+ YEARS. Do yall see how delusional yall really look now? Yall are living in a twilight zone. The establishment doesn’t trust Mitt either, they’re just smart enough to see ONLY HE’S ELECTABLE.
Keep that ‘faith’ tho, lol.
VIVE ROMNEY/RUBIO 2012.
no the establishment FUNDS romney. just look at his top contributors. they are also OBAMAS top contributors. that money doesnt come for nothing.
Those same contributors will contribute to ANY Republican who ends up being the nominee. They always do. They usually contribute to the Democrat as well. They call it covering all the bases.
They would never fund Ron Paul because he is the only one whose loyalties can’t be bought. There’s no way to cover the bases with someone like that so they do everything in their power to keep him from being elected.
right they are covering all their bases, and that money doesnt come for nothing.
they also historically will not fund anyone who is actually a conservative. you see government debt is a good thing for banks like goldman sachs. they also profit from wars. so they tend not to fund anyone who is actually for stopping wars of aggression.
That’s why I cut up the RNC card I received in the mail and sent it back to them telling them to get me off their list. I will not contribute one penny to them. Let Willard do the contributing.
NOWILLARD/ endorsing Gingrich or Santorum/ anybody but Voter Fraud Willard.
Not only is he backed by the GOP entrenched RINOs, he also owns the media (search: Bain Capital owns Clear Channel Communications), has bought every RINO in every state (like Nikki Haley in SC) by donating funds to their campaigns,(go to follow the money to verify) and has spent the last 6 years greasing the skids for this election. Despicable.
NOWILLARD/ endorsing Gingrich or Santorum/ anybody but Voter Fraud Willard.
“DR. DEMENTO”? –what, did you hear your dad say that?
If you think Romney and Rubio are going to empathize with your suburban Latino issues of plight and “gender-preference” “disenfranchisement”, you are going to be radically disappointed.
He is a troll. Probably paid for. I’ve never seen him anywhere on this web site before this election, and I’ll wager (even though it won’t be 10 grand) that we’ll never see him again when the election is over.
It is not a conspiracy theory when it is a fact, known by actual people willing to testify and offer absolute proof.
I, a registered Republican, was at the Republican Caucus here in Washington County and was denied my right to vote for my candidate. There were others at this site also waiting to vote. We were informed we would be allowed to vote next Saturday, but it seems Charlie Webster has decided those votes won’t count.
I do not care what happened in Iowa. I am a Maine citizen, and I am concerned about my constitutional right to be a part of the election process.
It is obvious to me that you do not care about my rights. You have also said you are a Romney supporter, giving me yet another reason not to support that man.
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations. Ask him about his affiliations.
He accidentally left insults of all the Republican candidates up in another post and called Romney “Mittens” (used by Romney’s detractors). He trolls on many sites and is a dem. operative.
Thank you Mr. Webster for showing us another example of the corruptness of the political system. Here is a novel idea, why don’t we change the whole election process and eliminate the need to vote all together and simply have the lobbyist with the most money pick who they want to be Governor, Senator, President etc. and have them donate all the money that they would give to the politicians to GAO to pay down our national debt. Shouldn’t take more than a couple of elections and we would be debt free.
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“change the whole election process and eliminate the need to vote all together and simply have the lobbyist with the most money pick who they want to be Governor, Senator, President etc.”
That is the 1% plan, isn’t it ?
That’s been the plan since 1913 –well, except for paying the debt, the IRS collects on that.
I’m not a Republican and a realtive newcomer to Maine but I’m inclined to say, like the students do when the visiting team is introduced at UMaine hockey games, “So What!” “Big Deal!” “Who Cares!”. I just looked at the AP item and I believe the vote totals were in the hundreds (“Big Deal!”) (all this article gives is percentages). The vote is non-binding (“So What!”) Only a few precincts are yet to be announced and Romney is declared the narrow winner (“Who Cares!”).
Seriously, of what significance are these tiny results? I assume there is a real primary coming. Of what significance are this week’s results for that primary?
No real primary in Maine. This is it. And it stinks to the high heavens. You don’t call a vote with only 83% counted, especially a close vote.
Some folks don’t care when you take their freedoms and responsibilities away. The German republic got in real trouble when they allowed a few people to disenfranchise many.
Romney beat Paul by 194 votes, but Aroostook County and Washington County are not included. I think there is a pretty good chance that Paul will win both when, and if, they ever are counted.
But Herr Webster says those votes won’t be counted.
I was in Aroostook County a few weeks ago.I didn’t see many signs but of those I saw,Paul had a plurality of 3-1.Not sure about Washington County.
The population of that remaining county is under 200. Also, obviously, RP won’t get ALL of its votes if/when counted.
Naw, sorry Paultards. Recycle another conspiracy theory?
You must be getting really worried about the bad press your guy is getting because he has been trying to pretend he “won”, when he actually cheated. Otherwise why would you tell such an easily disproved lie?
The registered Republican population of the MULTIPLE counties with uncounted votes many, many thousands.
There over 6000 registered Republicans in Washington County alone and unenrolled voters (over 8000 in Washington County) are allowed to enroll and vote on the day of the caucus as well! There are 2 or 3 other counties that remain uncounted as well.
http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/2011/110111r-e-active.pdf
Please look at Carlos Woundedangel Garcia’s facebook “about” page. Currently it is still viewable by the public.
Carlos Woundedangel Garcia is a paid political activist by his
own admission and who does not reside in Maine. The probability that he
is paid to post here is high. His facebook page is visible for anyone
who wants to verify the veracity of these allegations.
The Republican party doing what it does best!
Politicians doing what they do best. Just Ask Richard Daley.
Mitt Romney sure does need a lot of help to win the nomination
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&f=true
Wow. Where are those numbers from?
If they are real then Mitt is going to look really stupid and really desperate!
Jacob, you have to explain these numbers somewhere, although, we all suspect fraud.
If you scheduled your caucus on or before the 11th it should count towards the “win”. This time snow meant a one week postponement for a county whose caucus was scheduled for today. Maine should have waited until next weekend to announce. Announcing this weekend disenfranchises the folks with the snow cancellation and makes it seem like they were in a rush.
It’s time for Charlie Webster to go away. You have to finish the process, and declare this when ready. Maine Republican party had a wonderful election in 2010 but is due for trouble.
Romney got less than 40%, his opponents got over 60%. He lost 3 states in a row and barely eked a narrow win in Maine. That’s trouble for him & his party, and the opponents– Dems will prevail!!
He only “won” Maine if only 85% of the vote is counted in just the areas that supported him most heavily.
In other words he cheated and probably actually lost.
What? Voting irregularities in the REPUBLICAN Caucus? Surely it cannot happen to a nicer group of people! Maybe it is time to whip out Katherine Harris to re-count the votes.
Here’s a suggestion:
Why doesn’t the federal reserve just declare Romney el presidente de la American Banana Republic tonight and save some time? that way he can bomb Iran before fiscal 1st quarter numbers are reported.
Because the final Republican candidate will not be one of the current candidates. IMO, it will be Christie from NJ.
Christie is the worse thing that can happen to us and I for one, will not vote for him either, he’s just another RINO with a big mouth. Can you say Krispy Kreme? Check out Mark Levin’s website to get the facts on Christie.
NOWILLARD/ endorsing Gingrich or Santorum/ anybody but Voter Fraud Willard.
I didn’t say I vote for the guy, just that he will be the nominee. There is not a Republican out there, at all, that I would vote for. Obama is Bush lite, so he’s out. Doesn’t leave much of a choice.does it?
If Republicans can’t run their own caucus fairly, how can we trust them with the country?
The Democrats can’t run theirs honestly either, so for whom do we vote?
Have you heard of Field McConnell? You soon will:
http://www.presidentialfield.com
Ron Paul is the only honest candidate, the only one with a consistent voting record that matches what he says, the only one standing up for the Constitution and We The People. We have to put our support solidly behind him – if only so it becomes impossible to ignore how blatantly our votes are ignored.
And the alternative is…..yeah right.
Does anyone find it kind of mysterious that the “Snow Storm” that the Caucuses were cancelled for, was nothing. Even the Girl Scouts were still in session. Only 83.7% of the vote is tallied, and there are numerous caucuses on February 18th. So Let the People VOTE!!!!!!
There were at least 25 people at Washington Academy ready and willing to vote. all but one reported to be Paul supporters. There would have been many more people there but some were called and told not to show up because of the snow.
I left the Democratic party because of sleaze, cheating and dictatorial behavior from that party’s leaders. Jerry Brown won the 1992 Caucuses, but like Mitt Romney Clinton needed a string of wins, so George Mitchell, and the party leadership stole the election for Clinton.
Well, look at it this way, when the Iowa GOP Chairman botched the call, he had to resign. Maine might get lucky.
Makes me nervous. It’s better the devil you know.
Better idea. No more devils.
Ron Paul 2012!
The question wasn’t about the President, it was about the chair of Maine’s GOP. Quit it with your generic comment blasting.
Nevada too. Let’s go 3 for 3.
I have to congratulate State Republican Chairman Charlie Webster. With all the nebulous conspiracies about black box voting fraud and GOP secret counts working against Dr. Ron Paul, Webster’s decision to call a snow day in Paul strongholds and having the gall to then say that Washington County won’t be counted anyway next week, at least now all Ron Paul supporters around the country have a poster boy for the blatant undermining of Ron Paul and his supporters’ hard work, money, and military service.
Something smells Eastporty here. The way most people sea it here is there are two fish: One artifically fed by the GOP, it looks tasty swims like a seal buts stinks to high heaven! The other naturally fed self groomed and tells it like it is…that fish is Ron Paul. Quick draw from the stearnman, the GOP chairman. He ought to be dunked holding both legs port side until bubbles stop. Seems like the GOP has a leak in the garboard seam and needs some caulking. She should be hauled during the next tide and set to dry out a bit. As for me I dig clams to make ends meet, some worms as well. If you want to hear more I’ll be in Bangor wagering on the ponies. I’m the one with the red hat.
When 98% of Republicans do not participate in the caucus how relevant is the caucus?
A perfect reflection of the plutarchy that is US Government. Real question is why do people bother to identify with the party, when they do not participate even to the tiny extent that they are permitted to do so.
As relevant as the general election. Maybe all the stupid people will stay home this time.
Aroostook County and Washington County have a combined population of about 100,000. Portland, Maine has a population of about 66,000. Evidently about 200 people voted in Portland. So if the proportion is the same, Aroostook and Washington Counties will provide about 300 votes. It wouldn’t surprise me to find Ron Paul has a lot of support in those counties.
county municipality Romney Paul Santorum Gingrich Other
Penobscot Bangor 26 36 9 4 2
http://www.mainegop.com/wp-con…
Romney / Rubio ???? ya think? might just be a good ticket!
Charlie Webster is a closet democrat and so is Mitt Romney. I smell shades of John Martin here.
We have seen the fraudulant voters and it is us !
Oh, no…..I bet the people feel different.
The Caucus in Washington County was postponed until next week. I understand two other Counties did the same thing. I don’t see how the Republican Party can declare a winner when the Caucuses are not over.
Is this going to be like Iowa when after a couple weeks a different winner will be announced? I am somewhat disappointed that a winner was declared by the Republican Headquarters because of 2 reasons.
1. All of the caucus’ have not been held.
2. The results thus far there is a possibility that another candidate may win the majority of the caucus’.
Charlie Webster said? Who would believe anything he said anyway. No wonder there are questions.
Ron Paul should not be running as a Republican, but as an Independent. He would have a much better chance of beating either the R or the D in November… His own decision…
He’ll run as a third party candidate after the convention perhaps.
No no…this has already put a liberal loser in the WH. It won’t work…
You must be a liberal destroyer of America to suggest such a thing.
most ron paul supporters will not vote for anybody but paul anyways. except maybe the libertarian or constitutionalists party. we will not vote for liberal romney, neo-con gingrich, or theocrat “ban porn and rock n roll” santorum. id rather “waste” my vote for an independent rather than be guilty in helping bring the downfall of this once great country even closer.
Don’t forget tomorrow’s (Valentine’s Day) “Only Paul” money bomb!
Not all of the caucuses were counted, and the republican party does not intend to count all of them. Can you say “voter fraud”?
I would be raving mad if i lived in one of the towns the caucus was cancelled. I would get a group together and picket every free minute until they held the caucus and then counted the votes public at that point!
As a voter from Washington County, there is something fishy about us not meeting, first off It is WASHINGTON COUNTY, life has never stopped for snow before so why did it on Saturday. I received an e-mail friday night that our caucus was cancelled….NOTHING every cancells that early here for “pending snow”. This is bull, and I am very angry that my vote next Saturday doesnt even really count. It sounds to me like ole’ Mitt counted his chickens before they hatched because It was a measly 3 points that he won by, so with a whole county excluded he could still lose, but wait….WE DONT COUNT!!! How un-American to exclude us from the vote…I am truly Outraged
Talk about “Voter Fraud” Charlie Webster you had better look in a mirror.
How can Romney be declared winner when Washington County hasn’t even voted, especially when it is so close?
Charlie Webster you are a disgrace ………………………
Kevin Raye ought to switch to Unenrolled over this fraud upon his constituents.
It wasn’t even close….. the vote totals did not change from 42% to 33% but the Maine GOP ‘decided’ Romney would win…. to help him save his face. And to keep Paul from the perception of momentum. The vote was therefore ‘adjusted’ to give Romney a respectable 3% lead. But he lost by 9% in truth.
Great job Maine. You proved Romney right , you’re all “Envious” of wall street. IF he becomes president all your hard working tax dollars will go to the rich. And he will do what he did in Mass, everyone has heath care.
I have never seen so many war criminals in the same room since the Nurnberg War Crimes trials.
Good job hiding the buses Charlie!
It’s a chad day for Maine’s GOP.
Oven Mitt won! Free hamburger helper for everyone.
Now there’s a funny one ! Mainers for Romney…Lol !!! I guess nobody bothered to check what the relationship between Romney and a certain rich woman from Cambridge is huh ? Super PACS are a wonderful thing since Romney isn’t required to disclose where his campaign money is coming from…..for all you Mainers know it could be Foxy Roxy Quimby financing his campaign : )
Wouldn’t THAT be funny ? !!
As a conservative Republican, I won’t be casting a vote for president in 2012
RINO Romney is just as bad as Obama,,,, so why even bother…!
*He supports abortion
*He is not worker friendly
*He invented ObamaCare
*He opposes the 2nd Amendment
*He supports the Quimby National Park
Any way you look at it, its just another four years of the same BS
Vote for Ron Paul…this election will be difficult enough with Obama’s illegal aliens voting.
Don’t give it away, for God’s sake…and for ours.
I would overlook all of my issues with Ron Paul, “if” he would openly oppose Quimby, but as of now it seems he doesnt have the backbone to do so…!
Being the fiscal conservative, and constitutional man that he is, it is obvious that he will veto and congressional spending on another needless National Park. If you understood Ron Paul’s positions and the principles behind them, then you would already know that is against forming any National Park.
I have a lot of issues with him, but if you get Ron Paul’s Opposition to Quimby in a press release, and I will be very supportive…
Get Ron Paul’s Opposition to Quimby in a press release— then you will see his numbers increase in Maine.
Win over the grass roots effort that has already given Quimby much heart burn, and you will gain much support from people that know how to battle rich twofaced ars-oles
This is baloney. Romney was losing to Paul by 9% (42% to 33%) and cut a late night deal with the Maine GOP. The counties not counted would go to Paul as well as all but the two Romney won narrowly. It’s a mathematical impossibility for Romney to have won. I have the charts of their own spreadsheets. ROMNEY IS CORRUPT AND SO IS THE GOP. Romney needed this win to save face in his own back yard, against his ‘losses’ to Santorum in Iowa (also fixed) and also the fact that we have been warned over and over that Ron won’t be allowed to win anything and that if he does, we’ll just take those results ‘right out’.
How stupid does the GOP think we are?????
They don’t think you’re stupid, it’s just that up until now, there haven’t been any legal repercussions from their blatant fixes and fraud. The draft-dodging traitors perpetrating voting fraud spit on the graves of those Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines who gave their lives for this country, so that votes in Maine and elsewhere would be honestly counted. It’s not enough that special interests can pour millions into PACs and sway public opinion to their shill candidate, the treasonous hidden-hands now also want to rob you of your own vote by using electronic voting machines having no paper trail or simply discarding or not counting your vote – or in this most recent fix, calling a snow-day in Dr. Ron Paul strongholds.
lol I can’t believe anyone in Maine would vote for Romney granted not many choices out their but that guy, he strikes me as a tax evading lier.
Care to mention that voter turnout was…..TWO PERCENT???
I thought I read that it was one half of one percent.
Did Mitt_drive his PetDogSeamus through the byways of Maine on his way to Ontario, because that explains the voter turnout.
Maine is not happy about anyone strapping the FamilyDog to the roof and passing through their State. No, they are not.
Yep, I fully agree with you and anyone who cares to verify it can Snope romney’s dog and get the facts (unless he’s paid Snopes to remove that too…). Oh yes he did do that. He claims the dog ‘likes fresh air’ even though they had to stop to wash off the diahrreah the ‘fresh air loving Lab’ spread all over the vehicle. Multimillionare abuses animals.
NEVER voting for Willard. Endorsing Gingrich or Santorum, anybody but Willard.
The caucuses that were cancelled will clearly put Ron Paul over the top to win Maine.
The RNC chairman should be fired and thrown out on his posterior – yet another corrupt sham.
Investigation should be initiated into how Romney’s campaign was involved in shutting down the cancelled caucus sites.
Ron Paul 2012. Congratulations, Dr. Paul – America sees the corruption and how the Establishment manipulates the media – and the voting process, disenfranchising Americans at the drop of a hat.
ENOUGH.
Don’t forget the shams that took place in Portland and Sanford. Both caucuses were stolen from Dr. Paul.
I think its a shame – that the people and the church is not supporting Rick Santorum. Wow its also a shame when you vote for someone based on if they can beat the current president and not on what is best for the country / best for the world.
Belive me with Mitt as the republican canadate – american will have another 4 years of Oscuma!
RINO Romney is just an extension of Obama
Santorum2012
Why replace one RINO with another? Ron Paul is the only candidate for We The People.
Ultimately, my vote will “only” go to the candidate that has the stones to oppose the Obama supported Quimby National Park….
No opposition,,, No vote
You seem like a nice person and well-meaning voter – However, when it comes to Santorum: He is a dangerous, divisive, war-mongering, mimbo who was graded as one of
the most corrupt politicians a few years ago for activities ranging from
cheating other parents out of school seat by claiming to be living in their
school district to quid pro quo related to major campaign contributions. The
best ticket for the Republicans will be Mitt Romney and Rand Paul. Rand will
attract both Ron Paul supporters and Democrats who despise Obama’s NDAA and war
mongering.
RINO Romney will “never” get my vote….!
Why bother, he’s just an extension of Obama…
Hey Charlie – we gots us some election fraud here.
Ron Paul won
yessah
Maine doing the same thing Iowa did? The Iowa guy got fired. Willard has paid everybody in the coutry to get into that Whitehouse. Willard machine’s massive voter fraud (I live in FL) still won’t get him in. We don’t want him. Period. GOP entrenched, get out of our way.
NOMITT/***now endorsing either Gingrich or Santorum***anybody but “Voter Fraud Willard”
Crooks and cronies.. Look how the Republicans all manipulate the rules and laws for personal gain.
Can’t trust them as much as democrats because they are willfully ignoring the laws and rules.
I bet a true count of the ballots gives it to Ron Paul. The Republican machine likes unity and no rabble rousing. They anoint, not elect.
It’s important to recognize that both parties are corrupt and lead us down the same destructive path. Everything I objected to Bush doing, Obama has been doing on steroids. Perpetual overspending, running up debt, unwinnable wars and the erosion of our rights. The two parties are designed to keep us rooting for our “team” so we don’t pay attention to what they’re actually doing in government. Neither party is worth anything. They bicker about abortion and gay rights, but march in lock step in destroying our nation.
I wonder what cushy job Charlie will get after he leaves the GOP.
I’ll bet anything that Ron Paul will be announced as the winner in the coming days.
Either the american people are stupid
or the elections are rigged.
Either way it doesn’t surprise me.
An unholy combination of both it appears.
Elections are rigged.
Whether one is R or D is irrelevant when it comes to hijacking the voting process, even at this level. It affects every one of us. This situation doesn’t speak highly of Maine regardless of one’s party. Once we the People allow voter highjacking at ANY level to pass the rotten stench sniff test, it is a green light for larger, more egregious offenses. Webster should resign, and if applicable, charges filed against him.
With a full 2.2% of registered Republicans voting in the caucus, it seems more like hardly anyone cares for any of these candidates.
Every county and city could have done what most did and hold their caucuses on February 4. It’s Washington County GOP’s fault for not doing that and leaving themselves February 11 as a snow day.
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Clearly Penobscot County GOP is much more aware of Maine weather. And, as a side note, the Paulites are ridiculous. There were a few floating around Penobscot, but when it came time for the Bangor city caucus, you could tell who they were. Bordering on loony. In any case, Romney clearly prevailed in the voting in Penobscot caucuses. I know many who would have come to the caucuses but didn’t because they thought Romney had it all sewn up. Their mistake, because it made Ron Paul appear to maximize his potential vote. Essentially every Ron Paul supporter was there. I could count them on two hands, because they talk and talk and talk, and Paul comes out. It’s a maniacal faith almost.
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We know who can beat Obama by combining Republican and conservative and moderate Democrats. Mitt.
I don’t believe a word you say. I was exactly the opposite in Portland where there were clearly more Ron Paul supporters, and they very cordial, polite and quiet. They were also young and very well informed. The Romney pack was loud, rude, and belligerent.
What is strange, is that the Bangor caucus shows a total of 77 votes.
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But there were much less than 77 people in the room. The count of people in the room was 56, because we noted we were allocated 55 delegates, which meant everyone would essentially be a delegate?
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How does Bangor have 77 votes if only 56 were in the room.
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And if only 10 were Paulites, how’d he get 36 votes? Note how strange it is on the spreadsheet that the total showing is “o” rather than “77”, the sum of that row. So, if the sergeants-at-arms counted 56, and a survey from where I sat counted 58, less one child, and one unregistered visitor to get to 56… where do these mystery votes come from?
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If someone was cooking up a Maine win… it sure wasn’t Romney.
The vote fraud continues. For the latest see infowars.com and blackboxvoting.ORG
Looking at weather history for Machias, ME (Washington County) for the entire last week, 00.0 inches precipitation. Highs of 40F on Thurs., 42F on Friday.
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MAP414&day=10&year=2012&month=2&graphspan=week
The State GOP leadership postponed Washington Co. Maine’s caucus for snow: 00.0 inches of it.
(note, anything under 1/4 in. is counted as 0.00 from the weather data).
From article: Washington County GOP Chairman Chris Gardner told the Associated Press that he was not aware that his county’s preference poll results would not be counted. “Refusal to reconsider under those circumstances would be extremely disheartening,” he said. “I trust that the party will make the right decision here.”
“We will proceed next Saturday. We’ll have our vote and we are going to submit it to the state party for them to reconsider.”
Big kudos to Chris Gardner (whom I understand is actually a Mitt supporter) he should be running the whole GOP state process.
G.O.P. logic must be to vote for the wealthiest candidate they can scrounge up. Someone should clue them in that wealth doesn’t always equal intelligence, e.g. George W. Bush.
Actually, Obama and Romney’s financiers are so similar it’s ridiculous. Goldman Sachs and similar, wins either way. They probably don’t really care which one, as long as it’s not the other 3, especially Paul, who would end the Fed and kill their gravy train.
Alll Aboard!
Here is Webster’s knowledge on voting and laws. WGAN radio show.
“Charlie Webster, Maine GOP Chair, flails and fails”
http://soundcloud.com/bruce-bourgoine/wgan-9-2-charlie-webster
does it matter? romney is pretty much just as liberal. and most ron paul supporters wont support anybody BUT ron paul, we will not vote for liberal romney, neoconservative gingrich, or theocratic santorum.
Puppet, yes, but still not absolved for his part in potentially committing open sedition against the United States. Not since The Business Plot, committed by Wall Street, to overthrow a democratically elected US president has such shameful treachery been flaunted openly. By disenfranchising American citizens, in Washington County, Maine, of their right to vote in the caucus, Charlie Webster and associates may have very-well committed an act of treason. This deceptive fraud is very serious. The GOP Wall Street sellouts don’t want outraged Americans wandering into the back alleys where they’re conducting business. Lets keep it fair and open and lawful for all of us! The issue to protect voters and the integrity of our Republics democratic system can be taken to criminal, civil, or tribunal court. The laws keep us all safe. Lets all abide by the law.
Such a sad day in Maine. Romney doesn’t relate to the middle or poor class. He doesn’t care about the adverage Mainer. He wants the power to give the rich more.
Only 83.7% is reported.. They better count the remaining votes of Maine citizens. It is against the constitution, and Charlie Webster could be in direct violation.
The U.S. Constitution stated in Amendment XV, which was ratified by the states in 1870:”Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. ”
Unfortunately that does not include non-binding caucuses which are owned by the party controlling them.
We all know that Mitt Romney is an un-American corporate shill with an agenda to force RomneyCare, subvert the 2nd Amendment, hurt the American worker and support the Obama-Quimby National Park, but why is Ron Paul afraid to say he is against Quimby….?
No Statement- No Vote
Willard, I smell a rat in these results.
I’m really upset because I personally went around and
convinced people to go caucus for Dr. Paul on the 11th, and we were even
going to be providing a bus, and then the night before the caucus we
are told that Washington County is postponed till next Saturday. This
fraudulent activity is just too real to ignore anymore. There is
definitely an agenda to stop Ron Paul, and there is nothing more
un-American
than denying the people their voice. Washington County is Ron Paul’s
strongest county in Maine, so of course Washington County HAD to be shut
down at all costs. Even when we do get to caucus next week, the Maine
GOP chairman has stated that any new votes will not be counted. This is
completely unacceptable, and I strongly urge all Maine residents, and
anyone else who cares about our democracy, to call the Maine GOP
chairman, protest this decision, and try to bring this fraud to the
attention of the country. Thank you in advance to everyone who is as
concerned and disturbed about this as I am, and are willing to take
action.
the night before the caucus we are told that Washington County is postponed till next Saturday. This
fraudulent activity is just too real to ignore anymore. There is definitely an agenda to stop Ron Paul, and there is nothing more un-American
than denying the people their voice. Washington County is Ron Paul’s
strongest county in Maine, so of course Washington County HAD to be shut
down at all costs. Even when we do get to caucus next week, the Maine
GOP chairman has stated that any new votes will not be counted. This is
completely unacceptable, and I strongly urge all Maine residents, and
anyone else who cares about our democracy, to call the Maine GOP
chairman, protest this decision, and try to bring this fraud to the
attention of the country. Thank you in advance to everyone who is as
concerned and disturbed about this as I am, and are willing to take
action.
That’s right, spread this message everywhere you can, hopefully we can make something happen, and show the good doctor that we are not giving up on him!
I thought that only Democrats conducted fraudulent elections, Charlie. Isn’t this just a case that only the right people’s vote counts and we’ll get the results we planned for? As a former Republican who saw the corrosive influence of the Neo-Con’s, Tea’rs, and black-baggers, I hope that the current GOP under Charlie is pleased with its latest polls showing that NOT ONE of its candidates can put out Obama, if the elections were held today. Good job, you bunch of good ole boys. What’s next, give Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona away to stop the immigration problem? I would have added California, but I think the Book of Sarah foretells it is going to the devil in a landslide.
Well if Herr Charlie Vebster and ROBert Nutting said it happened…Well then it must have…
What happens if I decide to actually add the results of the Feb. 18 straw poll to the previously calculated results? Will Charlie Webster have me imprisoned, my tongue cut out, memory of my existence expunged from all records of humanity?
The comments do a better job of illustrating what actually happened in Maine than the article unfortunately. This is a atrocity and should not be tolerated.
At yesterday’s caucus in Portland there were more Ron Paul supporters than for
Romney. Also, most Romney supporters left after the straw poll so that when it
came time to vote for the delegates most of them were gone. It then
became obvious that Paul was going to win by a huge margin. After the
votes were counted, the Maine GOP caucus moderator invalidated the delegate vote
because of a discrepancy that he refused to reveal. However, the Paul supporters
demanded that he tell us what the discrepancy was, so he backed down, and said
the discrepancy was that there were more delegate ballots than the number of
green cards with the name of one delegate for each card. Each delegate turned
in a green card with their name on it in order to receive a ballot with the
names of all of the delegates. We then voted for the delegates who were
supporting our favorite candidate. Then the moderator wouldn’t
disclose how large the discrepancy was, but he backed down again after he was
pressed a little. The size of the discrepancy was 19 more ballots than green
cards, each with the name of a delegate. The Maine GOP didn’t pull this little
stunt until they realized it was going to be a huge victory for Paul. So now
the Maine Election Committee will decide what to do about this foul play. I
know because I was there. At the Sanford caucus, the Maine GOP allowed
people who were not delegates to vote for other delegates, which is against the
rules. Ron Paul won the delegate vote with 39 percent, but the Romney and
Santorum delegates together was more, and obviously enough of them voted for
the same delegate to become a chairman. We never got that far in Portland,
because they invalidated the delegate vote just before we were to vote for the
chairman at our caucus. The caucuses in Washington County were cancelled
all together because of a measly little inch of snow. Again, Ron Paul was a huge
favorite in that eastern most part of the state, and so the GOP canceled the
event, because they cannot stand the fact he was going to win. I’ve always
known that the Democrat Party is a bunch of cheating liars, but to
witness the same behavior in the Maine GOP was very disappointing. By
the way, every single Ron Paul supporter was very cordial, polite, and quiet.
The Romney supporters were very loud, and a couple were very pushy, and rude.
One was even rude to my cousin just because he is a democrat, and all he did
was give me a ride over and back from the caucus.
Charlie Webster definitively has issues. Listen to this radio interview where he tries to say that students can’t just register and vote… they have to register their car, pay some taxes, and OBEY THE LAWS, what is the guy the sheriff. –>
http://soundcloud.com/bruce-bourgoine/wgan-9-2-charlie-webster
What a pathetic excuse for a “news”paper.
Charlie Webster said…
Peter Cianctette said…
The Republican party declared…
Washington County was disenfranchised by the Maine Republican party, and the paper interviewed NO ONE (according to this story) who was at the Washington Academy waiting to vote.
25 of us (more or less) got to the caucus site, and more would have come had they not been called and told not to come. (due to the weather)
This isn’t the way Maine operates. We do not disenfranchise people, or prevent whole counties from having their say. That’s Mississippi,
My question is how can members trust a party which does not trust them (to vote correctly)? My answer is I can not.
Think Secession. We don’t need new elected officials, we need a new system and a new nation, achieved by peaceful means. Until we do, we will continue to have a corrupt political system under the thumb of the debt slavers in NYC. They will never allow Dr. Paul to become president, by any means, fair or foul. It is easy to see who controls the Republican Party and the Democrat Party, for that matter. And please continue to speak out loudly against this form of corruption. Be men, not sheep.
People,
Remember a crime has yet to be committed, this is a trap. All those
zeroed out precincts will be stocked next Saturday with RINGERS To win
out right for Romney. Then they will count the vote. This was to
dissolution Paul supports into not showing up. Show up and bring 10
friends. Not just Washington county Last count there were 250 precincts
not counted http://www.mainegop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me_gop_caucus_results.pdf
Why was my post explaining who controls the Republican Party from behind the scenes deleted? And you think we live in a free country….
So much for “Freedom of the Press.” It’s like the Country& Western song says: “Everyday life in America is just another lie.” Thanks moderator, for helping them supress the truth.
Shenanigans! So soon? So transparent. Ron Paul is a good man,and it doesn’t hurt any party worth voting for to have the exposure of their viewpoints over a long campaign. I understand the Chair has its preferences,but they aren’t helping themselves with this clumsy bush-league disenfranchisement. They just embarass their golden boy by having to hold his hand through his own backyard. Feeble.
I knew this delayed vote count in secret would result in a win for Romney. It sure smells fishy.
Give up, Republicans.
Just like Iowa, the fix is in and Romney’s the winner no matter how you vote.
There were way too many towns which did caucus, but were not reported which include the cities of Waterville and Belfast plus numerous other towns in Waldo and Kennebec counties. Add to that the dubious cancellation of the Washington County caucuses and this completely undermines the legitimacy of the poll and calls into question both the integrity and organizational ability of Maine GOP leadership.
Clearly the time has come for Charlie Webster to step down.
This is one more data point that add credence to the theory that Mitt is not electable by the broader electorate. Mitt, for all of his money and recognition as frontrunner, cannot get over the 50% mark among the GOP, anywhere. He will not be able to win over southern evangelicals, ever! There is no path to the White House for a republican that does not include winning over that part of the base. A third party evangelical is guaranteed when Romney wins the primary battle, which he will. An entire swath of the country will not stay home or hold their nose and vote for him. They will make sure they have an ideologically consistent candidate to vote for. That can not ever be Mitt, no matter the branding. He has a record.
As this race heats up, it becomes clearer after each contest that Romney is appalling to staunch conservatives (or severe conservatives to use his vernacular). Remember the battle cries against John Kerry? He must be a liberal extremist, he is from Massachusetts. Well, so is Mitt. Though hardly liberal, he governed as a moderate and has thousands of actions and statements on the record to that effect. This will erode support as the general election approaches. At this point it is a visceral reaction for southern conservatives to conflate Massachusetts with liberalism, regardless of party affiliation. I know this from first hand experience living in Texas. If you are from New England, you are dismissed out of hand as a raving liberal. Texas democrats self identify as moderates (not liberals) and even they are wary of New Englanders.
If the GOP dies not pull a surprise out at the convention, awarding the nomination to Santorum or even Newt, they will face devastating defeat at the polls in November. Oh how they will cry that the elections must be rigged when Obama wins his re-election bid by more than 10%. This is going to be interesting but America will get it right. We are starting to recover from the Bush depression and we will get to see a second term. What happens in congress may be another story…..
RON PAUL RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ron Paul is the only person that can defeat this new world order. Stand up for freedom and the constitution. Be apart of the solution for once america!!! not the problem!!! RON PAUL 2012