Tell people seatbelts save lives and most buckle up.

Tell them cigarettes kill and smoking rates go down. But new warnings about red meat don’t seem to cry out with the same urgency.

Phil Neff of Lee’s Summit, Mo., heard about the new study early Tuesday, and at noon he was sitting in Arthur Bryant’s BBQ chomping down a beef and pork combo.

“I’m having my meat, I don’t care,” said Neff, 50.

His buddy across the table, Gary Cowen, 52, in town from Chicago for the NAIA Tournament, with mouth full held up two fingers.

Swallow.

“Second time in 12 hours,” he said, referring to their barbecue intake.

The new study released by the Harvard School of Public Health found that eating red meat _ any amount and any type _ appears to significantly increase the risk of premature death.

The long-range study examined the eating habits and health of more than 110,000 adults for more than 20 years.

For instance, adding just one 3-ounce serving of unprocessed red meat to one’s daily diet was associated with a 13 percent greater chance of dying during the course of the study.

Even worse, adding an extra daily serving of processed red meat, such as a hot dog or two slices of bacon, was linked to a 20 percent higher risk of death during the study.

“Any red meat you eat contributes to the risk,” said An Pan, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston and lead author of the study, published online Monday in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

Crunching data from thousands of questionnaires that asked people how frequently they ate a variety of foods, the researchers also discovered that replacing red meat with other foods seemed to reduce mortality risk for study participants.

Eating a serving of nuts instead of beef or pork was associated with a 19 percent lower risk of dying during the study. The team said choosing poultry or whole grains as a substitute was linked with a 14 percent reduction in mortality risk; low-fat dairy or legumes, 10 percent; and fish, 7 percent.

Previous studies had associated red meat consumption with diabetes, heart disease and cancer, all of which can be fatal. Scientists aren’t sure exactly what makes red meat so dangerous, but the suspects include the iron and saturated fat in beef, pork and lamb, the nitrates used to preserve them, and the chemicals created by high-temperature cooking.

The Harvard researchers hypothesized that eating red meat would also be linked to an overall risk of death from any cause, Pan said. And the results suggest they were right: Among the 37,698 men and 83,644 women who were tracked, as meat consumption increased, so did mortality risk.

Almost 24,000 people died in the two studies. Of those, 5,910 were from heart disease and 9,464 from cancer.

In separate analyses of processed and unprocessed meats, the group found that both types appear to hasten death. Pan said that at the outset, he and his colleagues had thought it likely that only processed meat posed a health danger.

Carol Koprowski, a professor at the University of Southern California’s Keck School of Medicine who wasn’t involved in the research, cautioned that it can be hard to draw specific conclusions from a study like this because there can be a lot of error in the way diet information is recorded in questionnaires, which ask subjects to remember past meals in sometimes grueling detail.

But Pan said the bottom line was that there was no amount of red meat that’s good for you.

“If you want to eat red meat, eat the unprocessed products, and reduce it to two or three servings a week,” he said. “That would have a huge impact on public health.”

A majority of people in the study reported that they ate an average of at least one serving of meat per day.

The American Meat Institute was among the first to dispute the findings. In a statement issued Monday, the industry group criticized the Harvard study for “relying on notoriously unreliable self-reporting about what was eaten and obtuse methods to apply statistical analysis to the data.”

The U.S. Department of Agriculture says Americans eat less beef today. The intake peaked in 1976 with a per capita consumption of 89 pounds. By 2000, the amount dropped to 64 pounds, as chicken consumption rose swiftly, to 50 pounds.

Some of those cautionary reports about red meat must be sinking in.

Still, some people seem quite willing to blow off the warnings. Probably in part because you can get a ticket for no seat belt, and most cities have no-smoking ordinances.

How bad can red meat be if there’s no law against it?

And everybody knows someone like Barbara Thornton. She’s 83 and had lunch Tuesday at the Gates Bar-B-Q in Kansas City, Mo.

“I eat it all the time, don’t bother me,” she said.

Coming out of Bryant’s, Tyson Johnson, in town from Nacogdoches, Texas, waved off talk of the study.

“Guess what _ everybody’s going to die of something,” he said on the sidewalk. “I’ve been eating meat every day for 63 years. And I knew a guy who never ate meat, and I went to his funeral.”

Back inside, Cowen from Chicago, went philosophical by citing the old saying that you are what you eat.

“I don’t want to be tofu,” he said.

Neff used a last fork of meat to chase sauce around his plate.

“I don’t even know what tofu is,” he said.

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The Los Angeles Times contributed to this report.

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39 Comments

  1. If eating meat increases your chance of dying by 20% then there is a concomitant 80% who are assured a long and natural life.  Not bad odds.  Perhaps the lessen is that one shouldn’t participate in such a study.  Did they normalize the stats for lifestyle?  How about genetic predisposition?  Age? Occupation?  Come on! By the way, a quick search on the internet provides a plethora of studies indicating that vegetarians do not live as long as omnivores. Seriously.

  2. i wonder how many million of tax payers money was spent on this study? new study if you strave to death it shortens your life span!

    1.  Well it can’t be much worse than the reports yesterday that $54 million was spent by the CDC in hopes to stop 50,000 people from smoking by showing some scary pictures.  Just another case of government waste.  The most annoying part about these ‘studies’ are that in 5 to 10 years, red meat will be king again and something that is now seen as healthy will suddenly become bad for us.  I remember when eggs were about the worst thing we could eat, and now they are okay again.

      Really, it has to do with watching your portions and exercising.  You will probably have a shorter life if all you do is eat steaks and beans for dinner every night in large quantities, but if you have a varied diet, proper portion sizes, include vegetables, fruits, and different types of meats–and most of all exercise, then you will probably outlive most that do the opposite.

    2. None.  You could actually look up this study and learn something about it before “wondering”.

  3. if you or I could buy unprocessed foods, without the perservatives , the problem outlined here would not exist…. it’s the chemicals stupid..you don’t need to be a Harvard Grad. to know that the FDA is the cause of this… look what they have done to milk…. that will kill you just as quick if not faster… it is just a gallon of chemicals… ugh

        1. Do your homework and then rethink your statement as your  awareness on the subject evolves.

  4. First of all, I would question anything that came out of Harvard!  Secondly, I will continue to eat red meat in MODERATION, as I have been doing for years. (My BP is normal, cholesterol is fine, I am not diabetic.)  Third, that one remark about replacing meat with a handful of nuts?  Just imagine replacing your bacon & eggs with NUTS & eggs.  No thanks.

    1. One of my neighbors had bacon & eggs w/toast every morning of every day of his life.  He just died last week at age 87 after a lifetime of good health, but he believed strongly in daily exercise throughout his lifetime and was never afraid of hard work. The very last thing that Frank would have wanted was to live to 98 and be a burden to society and his family.

      1. My generation will most likely drop dead anyway. We were raised eating crap, and we do not have the health insurance, or the health insurance won’t cover the services they used too. They drop services every year.

        Even if “Obamacare” passes, I am afraid it will be too expensive to sustain like Dirigo, the lower middle class, or almost half of America will make too much money for help, but not enough to pay for the insurance.

    2. You’d have to replace the eggs as well since they contain a lot of cholesterol!  Breakfast would become nuts & nuts.

    3. Two things to consider — 1. we live longer today than any day in previous generations, yet we continue to eat beef and other meats. To say that eating meat is going to kill an omnivore earlier is a leap of faith or a ploy to generate grant money so the author never has to get a real job.   2.  When one considers all the politicians and other liberals who have graduated from Harvard and the negative things they have forced upon the rest of us, it is a wonder that we don’t have a law to ban anyone who attends Harvard from ever holding office again. 

  5. Well now, following the logic used against smokers, I suppose we should immediately place ridiculously high taxes on red meat and start putting up signs showing autopsy photos of meat eaters. Guess what, Harvard researchers and militant vegans, none of us is going to live forever, nor should we.

      1.  Interpret others words much?  BIG difference between the word ‘and’ and the word ‘being’.

    1. Close, but not quite.   Salad — it’s what my next meal eats.
      If God wanted me to eat salad, I’d have been born a cow!

  6. … ” a serving of nuts”.
    Yes, exactly my opinion of the researchers doing the study.
    Fun with numbers, y’all !!!
    Just ask our Pres.

  7. Growing up, my home was a meat and potato place.  We ate lamb, veal, pot-roast, steak, Hamburger, even our chicken breast was covered with meaty tomato sauce. Mom and dad ate bacon, steak or ham with every breakfast, and Mom sent us to school with roast beef, baloney, ham or pastrami sandwiches. Of course ma bought “organic” before it was cool, during a time when most folks didn’t even know what it meant.

    Guess what. Dad lasted to age 92, and died of an infection he got at the hospital while being treated for an enlarged prostate, and Ma lived to be 95.

    Funny thing about that is neither of them ever wore a seat belt either. They just drove sensibly.

    1. I might agree that antibiotic ridden, corn fed, confined beef is not healthy for people, but a beef raised as a cow is supposed to live–eating grass in the fresh air without the introduction of routine medications–that’s a whole different animal. And it is TASTY!

      1. Did any of their tests include cows eating grass? They talked about whether it was processed meat or not, how about what the meat ate before being slaughtered?

    2.  So what you’re saying is like saying since some smokers live into their 90s, it isn’t bad for a person . . .

      1. Nope, I’m not saying that.  I am saying EXACTLY what I wrote.  Is English your second language?

        1.  Which implies that if a person can live into their 90s while eating all that meat, it must be a healthy way to eat.

  8. I don’t have to worry i don’t eat red meat.. I make sure all my meat is well done before i eat it.. LOL sorry for the bad joke..

  9. Read “The China Study” and make your own decision.  Or, you could watch the DVD called “Forks Over Knives.”  Both well done, and by people who ought to know.

  10. If it is the high iron, then shouldn’t women eat red meat until menopause? Especially pregnant women?

    The article talks about different types of red meat as in whether it is processed or not, but it did not say what the red meat was eating before slaughter. Get back to me with that detail.

    I’ve known it was a fad for doctors to recommend removing red meat from people’s diets years ago.

  11. I am curious as to what these people were eating.  Were they eating organic, grass fed meat or the junk they sell off the shelf at the local grocery store.  Does wild game count?  Should I not be eating deer steak anymore?  Perhaps I need to get with the program and start eating what they FDA tells me huh?  If I don’t they’re going to lose out on money after all when I don’t need to get a bunch of prescription medications and that would be sad for their bottom dollar of the drug companies their promoting I suppose.  What a joke….  If people took the time to look into what’s actually in their food they’d be mortified.  Sadly, many in this country will continue to be what they eat….cattle.

  12. I just completed a study that indicated the consumption of red meat contributed to accelerated learning and advanced cognitive function in children at all stages of development.

    We’re all really excited here and look forward to some nice steaks on the grill tomorrow…

  13. I’ve always been a careful, health-conscious person, and this is beyond the pale, even for me. According to science, literally everything can cause cancer or can contribute to an early death–the water we drink, the air we breathe, the sunlight on our skin…the list just goes on and on and on anymore.

    Humans have evolved over the millennia as omnivores. This is where I draw the line. I wear sunscreen, I use a seatbelt, and I don’t smoke–but by god, I’ll have the bacon with my eggs on Sunday morning. Enough already.

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