PORTLAND, Maine — Don Deitz labored to get to the driver’s side window of a small red car, damaged nerves in his legs making even the short walk difficult.

He accepted a few dollars and a passing conversation from the driver, then returned to his cardboard sign and the corner of State Street and Park Avenue. Deitz’ sign announced that he’s disabled and homeless for anyone passing through the intersection — hundreds of cars — to see.

“It’s embarrassing,” said Deitz. “I’m more used to working for a living. This is really hard for me. I’ve had people come up and laugh at me. I’ve had people come up and give me a banana or something, and that’s really embarrassing. The whole thing is embarrassing.”

The city of Portland is grappling with a well-documented increase in homelessness, and while street begging or panhandling is statistically harder to quantify, police officials have noted an anecdotal increase in complaints about the activity. Sign-holders like Deitz can be seen at high-profile city gateways such as the median strip at the intersection of St. John and Congress streets, the end of Forest Avenue near Marginal Way, and at the corner of Marginal Way and Franklin Street.

The rise stirs an uncomfortable conversation among business owners, who worry the sight of beggars could deter traffic just as the economy is starting to rebound. Service providers and law enforcement officials also are concerned.

Just moments before the small red car, a vehicle sped by and ejected a plastic bag of coins, spiking violently to the ground at Dietz’ feet.

He rolled up the legs of his jeans to reveal gruesome scars, and said he doesn’t know how he got them. Neuropathy — nerve damage — has numbed his legs. He said he’s applied for disability coverage repeatedly and has been denied payments, and only recently turned to begging.

On his best day, Dietz said he made about $20 holding the cardboard sign, although he’s heard that others have made $50 or $60 in a given day.

Law vs. community response

City officials have said the number of people experiencing homelessness in Portland has increased by 20 percent over the past four years, and that the community’s six overnight shelters — which can hold nearly 350 people between them — are at capacity nightly.

“There’s no question the economic times are helping increase this activity, if only because it’s bringing people to Portland in search of shelter,” said attorney Trish McAllister. “The complaints are rising. Maybe people are just getting fed up with it. That, too, can be a sign of the economic times, as shop owners are starting to become more and more concerned” about the panhandlers’ impact on business.

McAllister is the Portland Police Department’s neighborhood prosecutor, a lawyer who strictly deals with civil violations. McAllister recalls a patrol officer once pushing a “panhandling” summons across her desk, and having to tell him there was nothing she could do with the charge in court.

“The ordinance has changed several times throughout the years, and the only wording on the books now is against ‘abusive solicitation,’” she said.

An individual passively displaying a sign seeking a donation, she said, is not in violation of the city rules and has the same constitutional free speech rights as anybody else demonstrating on a public street. McAllister said “abusive solicitation” would involve following passers-by or making threatening comments or gestures.

She said people hoping beggars and panhandlers will fade from public sight don’t have the legal system on their side. So, she said, their best recourse is to turn the market around.

“They’re making some money, because [beggars are] there day after day,” McAllister said. “It must be working. If this is something we don’t want to have any more, stop giving them money. Give the money to social service programs. If they’re there day after day, it must be making them money.

“Most or many of the panhandlers are using the money for alcohol or drugs,” she continued. “Maybe donate the money to Catholic Charities or Preble Street, where these people can get some serious help.”

That’s a mantra used by many in the business community, who say they don’t want the needy to go without help, but they also don’t want the image of panhandlers scaring away potential customers.

Doug Fuss, president of the organization Portland’s Downtown District, sits on the city’s community policing advisory board and is part of a small group of Portland residents and business owners considering a subtle campaign against giving to beggars.

“We’re trying to get people to understand that when they give money to panhandlers, they’re not really helping them, they’re enabling them,” he said. “There are people who are not in need who panhandle, and there are people who are in need who panhandle. But even for those who are in need, they’re better off going to [service providers like] Preble Street or the Milestone centers for help.”

Mark Swann, executive director of the homelessness and hunger prevention group Preble Street, said he won’t argue if somebody wants to donate to his organization. But he also defended people who might want to give money directly to individuals who are holding the cardboard signs.

“It’s a human being standing right in front of them, and if it’s in their heart to offer help to that person, who’s to say that’s not the right instinct?” Swann said. “I would ask that people not demonize or vilify the person doing the asking, who’s putting themselves out there in a pretty desperate way. It can be an easy place to point the finger at the person making the ask, without thinking about the complications in that person’s life or the context of the situation.”

And while Swann said he has seen a 25- to 35-percent increase over the past year in the number of meals being served every day at Preble Street’s soup kitchen, topping more than 1,000 daily meals, he said the prevalence of panhandlers or beggars in Portland is being overblown.

“I think in a lot of the comments I hear, the issue is grossly overstated in Portland,” he said. “I’ve had people say to me they can’t walk 10 feet down the sidewalk without getting asked for money, and I just don’t see that. I live here in Portland, and certainly I see people panhandling, but I don’t think it’s a pervasive city issue.”

Limited options?

Chris O’Neil, a government relations consultant for the Portland Regional Chamber, said homeless people are drawn to Portland because it’s a service center and carries a reputation as a “humanitarian mecca.”

“Most property owners and merchants in Portland have a reasonably high tolerance for so-called ‘street people,’ but everybody has a limit,” O’Neil said. “We’ve been reminded of the old adage that perception is reality. The more people in Portland talk about or complain about ‘those homeless people,’ the more visible and perhaps irritating ‘those homeless people’ become.”

Listening to Dietz, on the corner of State Street and Park Avenue, one might find that homelessness is irritating to no one more than to him.

Diez said he’s not “just a guy flying a sign on the corner.”

“A guy is flying a sign on the corner because he’s got no choice,” Dietz said. “He’s doing what he has to do to survive. That’s what he’s doing. It ain’t like I want to. I’m a human being, just like anybody else. I just have problems. People don’t realize that.”

Deitz, who said he sleeps in homeless shelters at night, grimaced at the question of whether he planned to use money given to him to buy alcohol.

“The most important thing for me is not to give up,” he answered finally. “Whether or not I’m going to use the money on alcohol or to buy food, that’s my business. The most important thing for me is not to give up.”

He said he stopped collecting cans for money because it wasn’t making him enough money to get by, and he admitted he’s unsure if begging on the corner will work either.

And if it doesn’t?

“It’s either this or … ” Deitz paused, then shrugged. “It’s either this or die.”

Seth has nearly a decade of professional journalism experience and writes about the greater Portland region.

Troy R. Bennett is a Buxton native and longtime Portland resident whose photojournalism has appeared in media outlets all over the world.

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  1. The most liberal city in Maine and they have people begging in the streets???
    How is that possible with all the love there??

    1.  Because it is a liberal city, that’s why. If it was a conservative city, they would have bussed all the homeless outside the city limits and dropped them off so the good citizens wouldn’t have to see or deal with them.

      1. Thats the solution. Government jobs for bus drivers to shuttle the homeless around and that doesn’t even require a shovel.

      2. Please!

        That must mean that Boston is one of your “fantastical cities” as they regularly provide one-way bus tickets to Bangor.

    2. Send these poor souls to the Blaine House. That’s where a lot of the cause for homelessness is about to begin and from what we’ve seen, it’s also the place to go if you want to get a nice cushy state job. Just remember to tell em your name is LePage.

      1. Augusta is too far for these homeless people on foot. Just refer them to those food pantries and other organizations set up to help them. And if they refuse to go, you know in your heart you’ve done all you could do to help them without violating their civil rights. It’s very simple as long as you don’t forget there will always be homeless people who choose homelessness as a way of life.

      2. Why don’t you just give them the address for you buddy Warren Buffett. Since he wants to spread the wealth around maybe they can write to him and he’ll send them some of that extra tax money he is willing to pay to help them out.

      3. The plush headquarters of the AFL/CIO or better yet the palace run by the MAINE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION…plenty of jobs in govt. agencies and schools that could be ‘shared’ 

    3. Out of work for the last 15 years? Thats a couple of economic cycles and most of it was good times. He could have got “call center” or other “non-physical” work I’m sure, but that would slow down his drinking.

      1. Really? You think he would’ve been hired by a call center?

        How’s the weather out there in Make-Pretend World?

  2. If I saw that guy I’d give him a ride to DHHS or the State House in Augusta for him to hold his sign. I’d join him! From what I read here he actually seems disabled. I know plenty of fat people who get assistance and there is no excuse for it! He’s just as deserving as they are!

    1.  Good luck with that, people like Don are the ones the good governor just fed to the wolves when he signed the budget this week.

      1. Great! Blame LePage for this guys troubles for the past 15 years. LOL

        1.  Nice redirect, your response has nothing to do with what i said in response to EB, but you are right, yesterday isn’t LePage’s fault. The fact that he will have an even more difficult time getting help today however is. Cutting services to the mentally ill, elderly, and disabled are going to cause a lot more homeless people like Don.

          1. All you need to do is dig into your liberal pockets and contribute keeping in mind of course that liberals are cheapest sort with their own money.

          2. That is an absolute falsehood. It has been demonstrated time and again that conservatives are far more charitable in their giving than liberals. We are far more generous with our own money than liberals are with theirs. The difference is we are much more unwilling to be so charitable using your money.

          3. I give to my church and charities and take no tax deductions for it. My church refuses 501 (c) 3 status. I give to the Salvation Army, United Way and the Voice of the Martyrs on a quarterly basis. About 20% of our household income is given to our church and various charitable causes.

            You can’t remember when you ever gave a man on the street $20 because you haven’t … but of course, you would.

          4. You seem to be quite a fella..yep a regular..a regular …well I promised I would watch my language…good luck with that life of yours angel..

          5. Where does the money you give to your church go? How much of it goes to charitable causes and how much just props up your particular brand of religion?

          6. About 50% supports the on-going operations and activities of the church directly. The other half provides charitable support ministries in this country and various foreign countries. We fund three food banks and two kitchens to provide meals for indigent people.

          7. I believe so as well and just as importantly, if members of the church would like to help support other charitable causes, our elder board is very receptive to those suggestions.

          8. I expect like all liberals you know little of what charity conservatives do. I would stack my charitable giving up against yours any day, or all three of the posters who criticize Crackers giving.  Of course you would say that I made it up  because it doesn’t fit your screwed up view of others.

            Just because people don’t want the government ripping it out of our pocket and spreading it around the way they want to does not mean that conservatives don’t give to the charities they value.

            One other thing. I believe you are a bigot.

          9. Along with being very stingy with their own resources, progressive liberals tend to be the most bigoted and intolerant people you will encounter. The responses in this sub thread support that contention.

          10.  It appears you are correct. This particular brand of liberalism unlike that of other eras is a particularly selfish one. There was a time that liberalism meant among other things the ability to listen to another point of view. These days it means …Things are my way and if you don’t believe it I will belittle and insult your deeply held beliefs. And people wonder why the divide in this country is so large.

          11. I did not say I didn’t believe YOU. It was you that said…..”conservatives show time after time they sew their pockets shut and have no heart.” I said “you would say that I made it up” referring to conservative giving.

              Do you read posts before you respond??

          12. As an anonymous internet collection of pixels, you could make any claim you wish. Shucks, you could have claimed $50 today. Maybe you did and maybe you didn’t. Whatever the case, it remains that conservatives are far more generous than liberals with charitable giving and that goes against the grain of the false liberal meme that conservatives are uncharitable and have no care for the poor.

  3. This is tough. I drive by there all the time and there are different people there everyday. There is no need for this. The city provides shelter and meals. If he can stand out there for hours he can stand  and work. I don’t  want to watch these poor souls beg for money for their next buzz and that is what it amounts to. San Francisco allowed it to the point you would not want to walk down the street. I hope Portland doesn’t let it get to that point.

    1. I’ve been to SF four times in the past two years. I saw so few panhandlers that I even brought up the point with my friends who live there. They said they have NO CLUE what people are talking about when they say San Francisco is any worse than other cities in that regard.

  4. About 30 years ago jobs started to leave this country in a big way. The taxes paid by the middle class funded everything from education to roads and bridges and welfare. We’ll see a lot more of this until we find a way to put Americans back to work in highly skilled jobs that can’t be sourced out to people working for nothing around the world.

    1.  The fact is that one in twenty Americans is incapable of working and on social security disability income. That number has changed upwardly drastically and is projected to go to near 7% in just a couple years according to a recent news story.

      1. Don’t worry about some of these people holding signs-They couldn’t take the pay cut to go on Disability.

      2. Hold on … lets fact check these liberal numbers …

        There are 8.6 Million disabled workers drawing disability (excluding children and spouses) according to the SSA. Instead of the 5% rate you claim, it is actually just over half that (2.8%)

        Lets stick to facts.

          1. Your sources do not agree with the Social Security Administration data for April, 2012. You also misrepresented what Coburn stated. He referred to those people on both SS and SSI. That does not refer to people incapable of working and on disability income in the sense they are disabled. That includes children and spouses on SSI.

          2. Perhaps we are both making errors.

             Social Security, what you call SS is called OASDI has about 51 million recipients. That is grannies monthly check. We are not talking about that.

            Mr Coburn mentioned two disability programs.

            The first:  Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) is funded by Social Security taxes paid by workers, employers and the self-employed. To be eligible for SSDI, a worker must have earned sufficient credits as a worker paying into the Social Security system.

            The second:  Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is financed through general revenues
            rather than by taxes specifically paid into the Social Security system.  SSI disability benefits are payable to adults or children who are
            disabled or blind, have limited income and resources and meet certain
            requirements on living arrangements.

            Dec 2009 For that month, SSDI benefits were paid to 8.9 million recipients. SSI
            paid benefits that same month to 7.7 million people. Combined, that
            works out to 16.6 million people  receiving benefits from one of the two disability
            programs in December 2009.

            If you divide that figure by the total United States population in 2009
            of 307 million people, it works out to be 5.4 percent, or just slightly
            more than one out of every 19
            Americans. There is some overlap in the programs that dropped the percentage to 4.8% of the population.

          3. I think we are talking past each other and using different definitions. I based my comments on actual SSA data for the month of April.

          4. I think we are talking past each other and using different definitions. I based my comments on actual SSA data for the month of April.

    2. How about actually voting for someone with a PROVEN track record of creating good-paying jobs for a change here in Maine!

  5. There was a well-known homeless man who lived in Rockland.  A local lady arranged for him to have an apartment to live in for free.  Within a few weeks, he went back to live on the streets.  A lot of times people are homeless due to mental illness.  Please don’t judge too harshly.

    1. Speak with people who work the shelters and you’ll see many “residents” do it by choice.  Not because they like it, particularly, but because they decide not to do something else.  15 years out of work, Mr. Deitz? THAT, sir, is a choice.

      However, please don’t ask me for money outside a fast food place or discount store.  I will offer to take you inside and help you apply for a job.

      1. What job, exactly, do you think Mr. Dietz has the “choice” to do? Look at the picture. Which fast food place or discount store will hire him? There but for the grace of god….

        1. There is nothing that a shower and shave wouldn’t help. Goodwill or Salvation Army can provide the clothes.

          How about you help him out with some of your union charity?

          Point is he isn’t going to do it. He hasn’t worked since he was 32 year old.

          1. The man has neuropathy and can hardly walk, he can not work. I have a relative with it and his feet and part of his legs are numb and he has a great deal of trouble walking. Show a bit of compassion.This disease gets progressively worse and at some point he will not be able to walk at all.

          2. They won’t show compassion until it happens to them.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrPdZmPB36U
            St. Pete, Florida police sliced the tops off homeless peoples’ tents while they were still in them on Friday, January 19, 2007

            http://www.pinellascounty.org/plan/demographics/EmploymentAverageAnnual.pdf
            In 2007 the Florida Office of Economic Opportunity said the average unemployment rate in Pinellas County, Florida was 4.6%. Three years later it was 11.7%

            Stay dry while you can, yet to be humbled.

          3.  I call bs. I have a VERY VERY good friend who upon returning form Iraq in 2007 lost one leg at the knee one above the knee and one arm just below the shoulder. He came home worked hard and now RUNS a IT dept in Denver! He tells me both his legs and arm that are no longer there are numb and hurt all the time. But guess what he got over it and is able to provide for his wife and now there four kids ( one after he got back ) by doing so. Whine if you want but a “disability” is only what you let it be. I have a friend in MD who was on incredible people years ago who fell out of a tree when he was a kid and grabbed a power line and lost both his arms. He owns a excavating company where he operates all the equipment. He got his license at 17 with a small fight with the examiner but he did it. He can drive a stick yes with no arms. He even drives a race car at the local track as a hobby. He also has a hobby that takes up the majority of his time coon hunting not a big thing up here in Maine but down in MD it is he had a dozen or so dogs ( blue ticks ) they run through the woods int he dark with a flashlight and a bat chasing the dogs tree the coon then someone climbs the tree and bats the coon ( he does not climb the trees but he can ) he has tree kids  and has NEVER taken any assistance. Life is what you make it. 

            Homeless folks a majority of them are that way because they choose to be.

          4. Right, but those must be all those lazy unmotivated veterans. How else could it *possibly* be explained since apparently homelessness is a choice, disability doesn’t exist, unemployed people only need a shower in order to land a lucrative job, and people with no education or history of opportunities just didn’t try hard enough as kids?

            Some of the people who post here make me ashamed to be a Mainer.

          5. Have a little sympathy for them.  Their mothers didn’t teach them to share.  They are just too into themselves.  Maybe they’ll outgrow it.

          6. Agreed , some truely need the help but the guy in this picture wants to drink more than anything else ! That’s a fact !

          7. Maybe you can tell us what the function of all those Vet’s centers is, and did they fail this one? 

          8. Yes the drive an confidence some people have is amazing. Now that being said I bet both these people had decent upbringings to start with.

          9. So there ar TWO people who could work after disabling events…………..not the norm!!!

          10. You are wrong. It is now the norm for disabled people to live normal working lives.

          11. Passed a guy running in S. Freeport; and he had one of those artificial ‘running’ legs and a perfect stride. Amazing! Many people have artificial body parts and live long and productive lives….IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT!

          12. The technology today is amazing. I work out in a gym regularly with a guy who uses a titanium prosthesis for his lower leg. There is literally no piece of equipment he cannot use.

          13. I commend your friend for his ability to overcome his injuries.  I also want to express my thanks for all he has sacrificed.  I volunteer as an Ombudsman for a military reserve battalion.  This means I am trained to provide referrals for resources (medical, financial etc).   One of the biggest requests is for mental health services.  My unit has been deployed 6 times since 9/11, which for an active unit isn’t much but for the reserves is a lot.  Many coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan have serious issues returning from the war zone and re-entering the lives they left behind.  Their loved ones and friends don’t understand what they’ve experienced and none of us (unless we’ve been there) can truly understand what it’s like to be constantly in fear for your life.  Mental health resources have come a long way from the Vietnam and Korean War years.   Many that served during those years came back with no resources to cope with what their country asked them to do and what they had witnessed.  Many came back addicted to drugs and alcohol.  Not all were welcomed home…many were spit on for serving their country…some served because they were forced.

            My point is that yes some homeless are that way because they choose to be but others have serious mental health issues that have never been addressed…some were used up by the very country they served and then discarded like a piece of trash.  Please have some compassion.

          14. Neuropathy ~ Treatment ~ The goal of treatment is to allow you to use the affected body part as much as possible!

          15. I , too, have a brother that has this debilitating condition.  Very difficult for him to walk.  he has had special shoes made to better support his ankles.  Butttttt, he pulls himself out of bed at 6 am, and goes to work in an office 2 or 3 days a week.   He hates to give in to this monster, but time is short, i am afraid.  Love him so for trying to “:stay off the street”.

        2. You are so right!  In this economy many of us are a mere paycheck away from the street.  My church participates in NEST, which essentially is a group of churches that agree to house homeless individuals a week at a time.  They feed them, provide a safe place to sleep and shower/bathroom facilities.  Many of these gentlemen are Veterans of Vietnam that have never had the mental health assistance that they should have….many have had drug and alcohol problems and many are victims of the current economic meltdown.  Many have lost their families, their jobs, their dignity and their homes.  It is truly sad to see how little hope so many of them have.  

        3. If Mr. Dietz has the strength to stand on a street corner for hours and beg for money then he has the strength to hold down a job. SInce you like quotes, don’t forget “Looks can be deceiving”! 

          1. And what exactly do you know of Dietz’s struggle to be able to make any sort of honest judgement? Do you know anything at all about his problems? Do you know what he has tried or hasn’t tried to do for work?

            One of the easiest things in the world to do is pass judgment. Doesn’t mean it is sound judgment.

          2. Well, Dan, you are correct. My agreement or disagreement doesn’t make your judgment one thing or another. But you didn’t answer any of my questions. What do you know of this guy beyond what is written in this article, anything? Easy to pass judgment. Not so easy to back it up.

        4. He could work for one of the law firms where all those liberals hole up?   They are so good at telling us what to do; but rarely set an example. Send him to Joe Baldacci for a job filing law suits. 

      2. No one will ever hire him they will not take a chance with  his disablity that he has

    2. Or they prefer the freedom from govt. regulation for their income, which can avg. up to $400/day. 

  6. I’ve seen an increase in this in Bangor as well near the mall and both exits of I-95 on broadway in particular…i usually lock my doors and don’t look at them

    1.  The folks at the Broadway exit take turns. They even use the same sign. They have been there for at least two years. Sometimes you can see the same folks on the Hogan Road near Springer Drive.

  7. Bangor needs to empty out our local Homeless shelter.   Give them all a bus ticket to Portland and $50.

  8. I feel sad for anyone who is down on their luck and have to feel the embarrassment of panhandling.  I can’t be glamorous.  However, if read the caption beside one of the photos,  it reads ”
    Deitz said whether he spends the money on food or alcohol, it’s nobody’s business but his own.”  Unfortunlately, Mr. Deitz, that is EXACTLY why I’m so stingy about giving to those in need.  Very seldom will I give money, and just for this very reason.  I’ll be the one who will hand you a banana :)

    1. I was thinking the same thing…. I would be more likely to give some one down on their luck food or offer to go buy them some lunch.

      1. Though a bit of alcohol no doubt somewhat eases the discomfort of living on the street. And who doesn’t want their discomfort to be eased?

  9. If it is none of my business what Don Deitz does with his money. Then it is also my choice not to give him any. “GUILT FREE”

  10. OBAMO was supposed to fix all this, right? Poverty has only gone up under his watch, which, as we know, is what Liberals really want. The more ‘homeless’ and ‘poverty-stricken’ people out there, the more Libs can declare themselves the ‘solution.’ Happily, we have data and irrefutable facts that prove that wrong. They want a BIGGER ‘underclass,’ not a smaller one.

    1.  Liberals inhabit most  government jobs that serve the poor. It is in their personal interest to have a large client base.

        1.  Which part?  That liberals inhabit most government jobs that serve the poor? Or they benefit by having a large client base?

          1. After our many discussions, I was surprised you would stoop to such depths with that comment. Most career civil servants working in government are honest, sincere people that share a broad range of political views but do their work with a sincere and honest desire to help those that are in need, working within the laws, regulations, rules that govern their roles in government… And then you insinuate they do so out of a political bias simply to keep their jobs, as if keeping people poor and their client roles large is a deliberate action from which they intend to benefit.

            I won’t dignify this ridiculous, judgmental assertion with further comment.

            It is unproven, unprovable, completely unsubstantiated, a purely ideological and partisan denigration of people in government and their motivations for why they serve in civil service. Your comment is decidedly uncivil.

            Reply if you like, I won’t dignify this foolishness, and that is being charitable, with saying anything else.

            My opinion of you shifts with this. Sorry.

          2. Poverty is a large industry that creates jobs for Liberals who help but never fix.
            Give a man a fish and he eats for a day teach him to fish and he eats for a life time.

          3. > Give a man a fish and he eats for a day teach him to fish and he eats for a life time.

            But give a man food stamps and a welfare check and he can buy the fish, and lay on the couch and watch TV for a lifetime!

          4. Come on S, You know and I know that most government workers are union members and by a margin of about 2-1 Democratic and those unions are major contributors to the Democratic Party.

             You should also know that bureaucracies protect themselves. It’s the nature of organizations and people. Name an organization that didn’t feel its work was to important to let fade away. Of course government workers don’t pull people in off the street make them poor just to have a large client base. What they do is make sure the people further up the chain of command understand the need for a larger organization with more funding. They do that with census numbers. They go to other social agencies with a similar mission to get new clients for their service. They even advertise (from time to time) on TV and other media their particular service. In the past I can recall ads for any other number of government services. I stand by my comment, they benefit from having a large client base.

      1. And that’s why all firefighters are arsonists, and all police rob stores and kill people in their spare time. It’s a job security thing. Do away with fire and police departments, and watch the incidence of fires and crime drop to zero…

        This is also linked to the fact that having fire extinguishers causes fires, I suspect… in the conservative mind.

        1. Another Argumentum ad absurdum. It appeases the weak minded but does nothing to refute the points made.

          1. The arguments themselves are absurd, consisting of an assertion (with no supporting facts) that because social workers and social programs exist, they are the cause of unemployment and poverty.

          2. There is actually some truth to the statement in that liberal social systems tend to grow from within by expanding their network with services provided to a larger pool of recipients. That is what you need to refute rather than the clever soundbite. 

          3.  You’re simply asserting that, as a need grows, the response to it grows. You’ve failed to offer any proof for your assertion that responding to a need causes the need. 

          4. I have not failed at a thing. Medicaid and Social Security are two prime examples of social services that expanded not because of a growing need but because of an expanded coverage base. Each program has grown beyond it’s intended purposes when created and the administrative support webs that operate both programs have become behemoths.
            Those are the kinds of examples you need to dispel before summarily dismissing the previous commentator’s post.

            Give it a good “brainy” try, will ya?

          5. You appear to be arguing that elderly people do not exist (hence, no need for Social Security), and that there will not be more of them as the baby boom ages; disabled people do not exist (hence, no need for SSI); and impoverished people who can’t afford policies from for-profit health insurance companies have no need for health care (hence, no need for Medicaid)… and that, thanks perhaps to those job-creating millionaires who need special tax breaks, there is no unemployment in this country and thus the number of impoverished people is declining steadily and will soon be zero.

          6. This is an example of why liberals should never be in charge of anything. You cannot make a coherent argument to refute what you oppose.

      1. Why is it considered hateful to point out what is obvious? Are all opinions that differ from yours grounded in hatred? Of course you must realize that if such is true, you must be considered the epitome of love.

  11. All those liberals and beggers on their streets. Just local reminders of their failed policies in Maine.Must be hard for them to look at democrats results. You can guarantee none of the liberals would give them a dollar unless it was someone elses they are giving away. This is how democrats take care of the poor and elderly.

  12. Probably the reason this man can’t collect enough empty bottles to survive day to day is because people can’t afford to buy the drinks or they need the nickle themselves.

  13. Actually, most of the State programs that would help Deitz have been put in place by Liberals. Both Democrates and Republicians have helped develop these programs. Liberals and Conservatives and  Democrates and Republicians have been known to actually work together to help citizens in need. Get your facts stright.   

  14. Amazing the nuber of IGNORANT comments on here blaming liberals for this, that, and the other thing. At least liberals make an effort to HELP people; they don’t continually blather rhetoric condemning and demeaning those who need help. Our “illustrious” governer made the comment the other day” get off the couch and get yourself a job.” Okay governor, where are the jobs  for the homeless who, by the way, DON’T HAVE A COUCH? How about putting your money where your mouth is and fund training programs for those whose skill sets don’t match the few jobs available? How about providing day care so that parents can take the time to get the training without having to make the choice of staying home to supervise their kids or get the training that will allow them to become contributing members of society? You want to hand out corporate welfare in the form of tax breaks to companies, how about making those tax breaks contingent on hiring and training the homeless and those on welfare? But no, all you do is talk. You-who had the help of many, many people to get where you are-in your capacity as governorhaven’t lifted a finger to help anyone, all you’ve done is blabber and bluster, pointing the finger of blame at EVERYONE else. HYPOCRITE!

    1. I believe Mr. LePage’s comment was, “For those 18 to 40 year olds who are healthy and able to work, get off the couch and get a job.” Not his exact words but pretty close. I agree with him. I’m tired of seeing healthy people make a decision to stay home and not work at our expense. Since when was it a decision to make a living or not? 

      Mr. LePage also said that for those with no skills, that he wants to help get them training. 

      It’s a shame when people only hear what somebody says out of context or only hear a small part of what is said. I’m not saying that is what you are doing, only saying that you probably only heard a short part of what the man said. News networks love to do that.

        1. I honestly don’t think he’s healthy enough to work. He’s also over 40 years old. My comment really had nothing to do with him. 

          I’m fortunate enough to have a job that I can do as my body is quickly deteriorating. If I do a few hours of physical activity, it takes me days to recover. Sometimes I don’t have to do anything and I’m all lamed up. I’ll keep doing this job as long as I possibly can but there are many times that just sitting is more than I can take and I don’t like to be on a steady diet of heavy duty pain pills. I can not stand for more than a couple minutes before it becomes very uncomfortable. I can’t sleep at night without having to take pain pills just to get a few hours until I get sore and stiffen up and have to move. My arthritis is spreading throughout my body even though I look physically able and am only 43 years old.  I just hope there is still a safety net left for the day when I can’t force myself out of bed and drag myself to work. It literally scared the hell out of me. There is nothing worse than wanting to do something but not being physically able. It’s a helpless feeling. 

          1. Thank you. I hope something is still available as a safety net when my body can’t do it anymore.  I have paid in to the system since I was a child of 10 years old, working at my fathers business. Only used assistance one time in all those years in the form of food stamps after being in a bad car accident. I was very embarrassed  using them but had to eat and couldn’t work. I bought a half gallon of ice cream with some of the food stamps and literally was ashamed of myself for abusing them in that way. I couldn’t even look the teller in the eye.  I  saw people buying lobster with their food stamps and could not believe it. That was a hard and humbling day for me, hobbling around Shop and Save with the assistance of a walker and a helper to push my cart. A part of me would rather die than have to do something like that ever again but there will come a time when I’ll have to swallow my pride and ask for help. 

            It is upsetting to see healthy and young individuals refusing to work because they are allowed to stay at home and collect benefits that others desperately need.

  15. I do not give to these people because when you would give them fifty cents they would ask for a dollar. You never know how they will react so it is best to stay away from them.

    1. I give to a local guy daily , he is happy with a quarter to get a coffee when he makes a dollar.  Maybe you should have some sympathy and help out someone that is disabled or dont have money coming in, like most of us

    2. Wow, that is a pretty crap attitude to have. It is kind of like when someone takes on an issue and tries to change it and then someone like you pipes up and says, “Well, what about this and that? Those should be taken care of, too.” Well, we can only change the world one issue at a time. Instead, since it can’t all be changed with a snap of the fingers, people with that attitude choose to not do ANYTHING.

  16. I am so saddened by this article.   I am so grateful that our family, while working hard and struggling financially, have not experienced this level of suffering and we must seem wealthy by this man’s standards.  

    I am both encouraged and disappointed by the BDN’s “stereotypical” homeless person story.  

    I am encouraged because it highlights the need to continue mental health funding, not cut it.  This person is on the  street, probably has substance issues that he uses as a coping mechanism for mental health issues that he should be seeing a professional about.  Think of him as someone’s son, maybe brother, former employee….now think of him as someone who must do what he has to do to survive, for example breaking into a home to find something to steal and pawn.

    I am discouraged by the stereotype of a guy who is too lazy to work, that he is faking his illness and that people think this is funny.  Maybe he is faking, maybe he isn’t.  I am not qualified to diagnose him, and at the very least he probably needs more medical care.  Homelessness affects entire families, and it happens everywhere.  The image and description that we see in this article isn’t representative of all homeless people.

    Maine needs more jobs that pay well enough so that families can afford healthcare, childcare,  the cost of housing, the cost of transportation (gas/car insurance/car payment) etc. – like the nice kind of high paying government jobs that LePage has made available to his family.  If we had those, we’d all be in great shape.  In the meantime, count your blessings and be grateful for everything you have, even if your greatest asset is good health.

  17. Deitz states its’ nobodies business but his own whether he buys food or alcohol with panhandled money. If I were giving him money, I’d say it damn well is my business. That is why I would be more than gracious to provide him with food instead of money. He may have health issues, but how many of them have been brought on by the use of alcohol? We all make own own beds we sleep in.

  18. What isn’t mentioned anywhere here is that the State consent decree put a lot of helpless people on the street…many of whom were better off institutionalized.  Naturally, “the street” tends to be our urban and service center communities.  It’s life, and it’s in every city everywhere.  Like the guy from the Chamber of Commerce said, stop complaining about it and do your best to deal with your fellow humans who are in unfortunate circumstances. 

    1.  Weeeellll, sort of yes and sort of no. The institutions at the time were terrible places, somewhere between jail and a concentration camp. The consent decree freed the mentally ill from that, which was a good thing. However, the communities which were supposed to make funds available in order to treat and train those with mental illness on an outpatient or “clubhouse model”  did drop the ball and many did fall through the cracks and become homeless. We have never fixed this problem either, these are the first programs that are cut during budget woes, and there are just not enough non profit/volunteer places to meet the need.

  19. I disagree that he will die if he doesn’t beg. He stated he sleeps in a homeless shelter…………and he can seek food in a food kitchen. I think it’s terrible that he can’t get SSD

  20. Whos the guy who hangs out in front of the Brewer walmart? He has better clothes than I do. If hes down on his luck I am sorry for him If he is just trying to play on our kindness shame on him

  21. Many panhandlers use / sell drugs.

    Better to give money to a local church for food, etc.

    or save it, as the economy will be worse soon

    1. To a church, that is funny because i donated to my local church i was attending.  Asked for a receipt since its tax write off and they refused stating they dont do that

  22. I have a family member who choose to be homeless for around 10 years.. I asked him why when he could afford a place of his own. He said he didn’t want to be responsible for a place of his own.. He didn’t like possesions because he didn’t want to be responsibile for them.  He has now had a place for about 6/7 years because he was tired of being cold. sparsley furnished with nothing extra.. Listens to what he says is the religious channel and drinks his 40 OZers.. He is very careful to eat or he won’t drink. and he is one of the lucky ones.  168 IQ,  off the charts as his doctors say, yet almost totally disfunctional.

  23. > …whether he spends the money on food or alcohol, it’s nobody’s business but his own.

    I like the long-haired guy you see begging in Bangor from time to time. His sign reads “Need money for Alchohol Research”. At least he’s honest about it, and gives people a good laugh while he’s at it.

  24. I once invited the man pictured in this article out to lunch , my treat,  he refused , in my opinion he’s more thirsty than hungry. Homeless by choice , his attitude seems to be : you work and I’ll collect some of your pay !  If you see him on this corner feel free to wave at him with as many fingers as you like , he’s a leech !

    1. I got that inclination when he said it is embarrassing when people give him “a banana or something”. I have never been literally starving, but I assume I would be grateful for food more than if someone threw a quarter at me.

  25. Bangor is suffering the same epidemic of ne’er-do-wells. The social safety net is still intact to remedy the plight of anyone claiming to have fallen on hard times. What we have on our streets is what was once called bums. Just like pigeons, if you want to eliminate them, stop feeding them. No more handouts. 

  26. The reason it’s increasing is that there are no laws against it. Too bad some receiving benefits are only milking the system. Kick them off so we can help those that truly need it. Oh yea, I forgot, according to the Left, EVERYONE needs it!

  27. Berkeley, California came up with an original idea. They printed up coupons for distribution that were redeemable within city markets for food only. No alcohol. They found that most panhandlers crossed the bay to San Francisco after the program was implemented. 

    That said, the real problem with homelessness is that the community response is based on a 1960s era model that assumes that full employment is the reality and that unemployment is a very temporary aberration. Since the Nixon years, the unemployed homeless has become a normal  feature of the American economy and partly due to the rise of homeless advocates such as Mitch Snyder and others. Nowadays, homelessness is a legal right protected by the Fist Amendment. In DC, the law is such that a policeman can only offer a homeless person a ride to a shelter. If the person declines the offer, there is nothing more to do.  Whenever the annual winter death happens due to exposure, the advocates invariably charge the District of Columbia with murder “for not doing enough to entice” the homeless in. 

    Belgium seems to have the best response. The government there simply made it illegal to sleep outdoors. There is nothing wrong with being homeless, but one cannot sleep outdoors on public property (or private property without permission).  There is a brief and temporary coercion – we call it “an arrest”. The homeless person is brought in, sheltered and fed and NOT released until the root cause of homelessness is discovered. Then efforts are made to resolve the core problems. It has been found to be effective in reducing  homelessness and more importantly (since everything is taxes, taxes, taxes) long term public costs.

     

    1. Wow, you must have some low self esteem to feel the need to make fun of a sign made by a homeless person.

  28. Some of them pandhandle by day, earning tax-free income, and then go pick up their welfare checks and food stamps at night. Genius! That’s what Maine gets for handing out free public aid like it’s candy.

  29. Do you really think homeless people want to live this way do you think they are proud of it?  Well Portland you need to find a solution to this problem and do it quick  it will only get worse.   

  30. very very sad, i was there not long ago. broke my heart, i gave what i had in my pocket at the time. alittle while later i was at a store, to get money out of an atm machine, and in came the person i just gave money too and he was buying liquor. i felt like i was taking advantage of for my good deed. 

  31. I would give Mr. Deitz a couple of dollars if I was passing through and had cash on hand.   It’s sad that people are so judgmental when they have no clue what this person has lived through over the years.  Alcohol has always been used to numb pain (mentally and physically) and if that is his coping mechanism, it’s not my business.   He’s not out raving at the Oasis, to get into a car and drive somewhere; he is trying to survive the only way he knows how. 

    Perhaps if did get SSI, his life would not be so painful and hard.   I can’t imagine what it would be like to be him, standing on that street corner, barely able to walk and not having a safe haven (home) in any sense of the word… At one point, he may have been a very productive member of society; nobody knows what he has gone through in life. 

    I don’t know about Mr. Deitz, but many of the people in his situation are veterans who risked their lives to protect our freedoms.  Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome is a very real thing, but it wasn’t recognized in the past.  Not only veterans struggle with PTSS; I have a close friend who took years to recover and function again after being the only survivor in a tragic boating accident; he is functioning, but still has many issues that have affected not only  him, but his family and friends.   I know a few people that have been in serious automobile accidents that have left them scarred mentally and physically, to never be the same again. 

     The story did not mention any criminal history, so I will assume he has none for the sake of this conversation.   It amazes me how many people out there will make judgment without knowing the person or the reasons for their problems. 

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