Let the Scouts know
It would be interesting to know if the people who are criticizing the Boy Scouts’ decision to avoid gay leaders are the same people who have criticized Penn State and the Catholic Church for allowing gay predators to take advantage of young boys.
If there is a better way to protect young boys from gay predators than the Boy Scouts’ way of denying gays leadership positions, the Boy Scouts would probably like to hear about it.
Leverett Merrill
Orrington
Sad message to children
Of all the idiotic, moronic comments from our esteemed leader over the past year and a half, his latest is the worst. The governor of our state actually told our children and grandchildren that wherever they go for more education or for employment, they will be looked down upon because they are from Maine.
Even if this were true, which it most certainly is not, it is a sad day when the youth of this state receive such a message from their governor. Young people should look up to you, Gov. Paul LePage, but your constant acting like a buffoon makes that impossible. The next election can’t come soon enough.
Bruce Dorr
Old Town
Above the radar
Like many people reading the details of the Maine State Police investigation of Bob Carlson, I found the magnitude of it overwhelming. Carlson created his persona of clergy person/law enforcement professional/high-profile nonprofit leader to fool us all.
If I were a victim, I wouldn’t have considered coming forward. Who could stand up to that? Who would believe a child in the face of Carlson’s credentials and powerful friendships? As a former fraud investigator, I know that people who perpetrate such a fraud fly either below or above the radar.
Carlson was flying way above the radar in Bangor. Everyone knew him as he drove his car around town. So much so that when he parked with a small child, no one confronted him. If that were another man, would the response have been different? There are many reasons why someone would suspect and do nothing or not enough. We hear that in Penn State it was a culture of protecting the institution.
What was Carlson’s institution? His collar and vestments were part of the guise, as were his connection with law enforcement and his position at Penobscot Community Health Center. People of this community were betrayed. Important men, be they clergy, law enforcement, nonprofit leaders or, in this case a combination, are not more important than the children in our community. When we allowed Carlson to come and go with impunity, we allowed his treachery and violence to children to continue. Let’s not put our children in danger again.
Rebecca Hobbs
Winterport
EPA should strengthen soot standard
Here in Maine, especially in the summer, we suffer from “bad air days.” These are days when the air is unhealthy to breathe. The unhealthy air is caused primarily by ozone and soot (fine particles in the air). One way to reduce the number of bad air days in Maine and nationwide is to reduce ozone and soot pollution.
Thankfully, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency must soon update national health standards for fine particulate matter, i.e. soot. Coal- and oil-fired power plants are the main source of soot pollution in the U.S. Currently, the EPA limits soot to an average daily exposure over a year of 15 micrograms and a maximum of 35 micrograms on any one day.
These limits are not strong enough to protect American families from soot in the air we breathe every day. According to the EPA, soot causes early death, asthma, heart attacks, stroke, heart disease and may cause cancer and developmental and reproductive harm.
I am writing to urge the EPA to strengthen emission standards for fine particle matter to an annual standard of 11 micrograms coupled with a daily standard of 25 micrograms as recommended by the American Lung Association. This standard could prevent as many as 35,700 premature deaths every year, 1.4 million cases of asthma and reduce the number
of bad air days here in Maine. We all benefit from cleaner air.
Eloise Kleban
Orono
Cain vote
I was disappointed to read a recent column from Republican state Senate candidate Rod Hathaway, “This November, keep the reform coming,” which ran on July 6 in the BDN. The column heralded the policies of Gov. Paul LePage and his Republican allies in the
Legislature, whose policies have held job growth hostage and have resulted in moving Maine’s economy backward. I don’t want my legislator rubber stamping those harmful ideas.
I’ll be casting a vote for Rep. Emily Cain, D-Orono, this November instead. Cain is a distinguished voice in the Maine Legislature. She has stood up for Maine people time and time again, from spearheading efforts to strengthen Maine’s domestic violence laws to fighting against GOP policies that pull the rug out from middle class families.
Deanna House
Lee
Global warning
I’d like to comment on the Aug. 1 article about global warming being linked to extreme storms. First off, I think global warming (climate change) is a joke. I remember in the 1970s, we were told that if we didn’t act immediately, that mankind would be gone within 10 years because the earth was heating up.
Then, in the 1980s, we were supposedly going into an ice age because the earth was cooling off. Now, we are back to “global warming.” Which is it, what is it, and why is it? God only knows. Al Gore, and the people like him (i.e., environmental wackos), run around telling us how we should live, all while Gore himself is living in his Tennessee mansion and using more power in a month than the average household does in a year, according to the Tennessee Public Utility Commission.
Scientists in Angola had to fudge the numbers of a study because the evidence was not there to prove that man was to blame for so called “climate change.” Science is a proven fact; everyone in the room agrees on the outcome — i.e., water boils at 212 degrees. One more thing: North America was covered by ice 15,000 years ago, according to so-called scientists. This was at a time long before the Industrial Age. Why did the atmosphere warm to the point that it had the ability to melt glacial ice? My point being: We have no control over Mother Nature.
Elisha Reynolds
Vassalboro



Homosexuality and pedophilia are NOT the same thing. What a disgusting and frankly stupid assertion to make.
Some people never get that fact. or that there are a higher % of heterosexuals that are pedophiles.
3 out of 4 victims of child sexual abuse are female….. so 75% of the offenders are heterosexual males by their definitions.
2 out of 3 offenders are or have been married …. 66% are married or divorced heterosexual males by their definition.
To go a step further: 70% of offenders are white and over half of victims were the offender’s child or other relative.
By their definition the majority of ‘pedophiles’ are married or divorced white heterosexual males who are related to their victims.
You make an excellent point but facts don’t matter to haters like Heist and Parsons. They are incapable of processing the information that 70% of pedophiles are white, heterosexual males like themselves. Perhaps the reason is that white, heterosexual male pedophiles try to deflect suspicion from themselves by fomenting the myth that the majority of pedophiles are gay.
Everyone knows that reality has a liberal bias.
Wow…your stats are….not that amazing…
68% of the US poluation are married….
75% are white.
68% are in a family houshold, so what you are saying about data on pedophiles paralells this countires population.
Maybe you were trying to make another point….
I think the point is, a majority of the abuse comes from married, supposedly heterosexual, men. So, if this is the case, why are the BSA focusing on gay people?
Well I guess the stats do correlate with US population by your data ….. so if you wish to define pedophiles by the gender of their victims then the vast majority of perpetrators are victimizing female children and are then by definition heterosexual …… what are we doing to protect them from heterosexual men? The primary focus appears to be on protecting male children but should we not be focusing on the prevention of sexual abuse of all children not just one gender?
But pedophiles who abuse members of the same sex are homosexuals. Don’t try to get around the truth. Not all gays are pedophiles, but many pedophiles are gay.
No, to most pedophiles, the gender of the child does not matter. A pedophile is attracted to children. In the Penn State case, Jerry Sandusky molested boys because boys were available for him to molest.
Just like alter boys were available and still are. There has been no movement, to my knowledge, in the church to protect them by making them less available. Perhaps members of the church know if this will happen.
Data please.
Another grand pronouncement without proof.
Then you must hate heterosexuals just as much. Many molest opposit sex children.
Pedophilia, is a sexual need for children, the sex of the child maters little, with most of them. Are there homosexuals that are pedophiles,yes, just look at your RC Church.
Pedophilia is pedophilia ….. sexual attraction to, sexual fantasies involving and sexual abuse of children. As you state the gender of the child matters little with most pedophiles. Pedophiles are not heterosexual or homosexual …. they are adults unable to form romantic relationships with other adults of either gender.
You want to know what’s disgusting…. Reading about how absolutely immoral and spiritually bankrupt our nation has become as evidenced here on a daily basis. It truly is disgusting. I must say it was great to see tha Chick Fil A had a record breaking day last week showing support for their stance on marriage between a man and a woman. They are now being sued by homosexual activists. Have to wonder why the BDN failed to report that little tidbit. Hats off to the boy scouts and Chick-Fil-A!
Pretty sure that no one is suing Chick Fil A. Also, I must say it was nice to see another court rule DOMA unconstitutional, showing that even if citizens won’t do the right thing, the courts will make sure minorities are protected from the majority
You’re pretty sure? How sure?
As in, I haven’t seen any stories about it. Apparantly, there is one case, as other people have posted, in Illinois.
Yeah, with all those Republican Reagan and Bush appointed activist judges radically destroying American society-we can’t lose!
The most recent judge to find DOMA unconstitutional was appointed by Bush jr. The judge who overturned Prop 8 was appointed by H.W. I love how people still try to paint them as “liberal”.
I think it was reported. Anyway, so what (to this discussion anyway).
Yes it was reported. An Illinois organization has filed on behalf of a same-sex family who have, as a family, frequently spent their money and dined at their local CFA. They now feel that as a family, they are not “welcome” due to Mr. Cathy’s statement regarding his and his company’s comments. It is based on alleged violation of the Illinois Human Rights Act. I don’t think it will pass muster and don’t think it should ….
Of course it is news in Illinois not Maine …… many often ask why the BDN publishes news that comes from other states.
Don’t tell JD there’s a lawsuit happening, it would ruin his day having to admit he’s wrong.
The suit is being filed on behalf of a family that no longer feels welcome at their local CFA. While I understand why you believe that the organization filing on their behalf may be to you be an activist group (they call themselves an advocacy group), I would not consider the family homosexual activists …… they are two parents who have a child. As I said earlier I do not believe that the suit will go anywhere … there was no direct statement against the family and the business has not turned them away because they are a non-traditional family.
They are two lesbian activists trying to gain a little limelight.
As opposed to the failed politician who organized Chick Fil A Appreciation day in a desperate attempt to stay relevant in society?
No, it started as just a posting to his Facebook friends and snowballed from there. In Massachusetts no less!
Do you mean he posted just to his Facebook friends who live in Massachusetts or he was in Massachusetts when he posted it or ……
It is interesting that Facebook supports same-sex marriage and yet those in opposition use it to spread their message ….. do they not realize they support a company that supports equal marriage or do they use it too much to boycott it ….. same with Microsoft… hmmmmm
Huh?. Oh nevermind. I’ll never think like you.
And you will continue to ignore direct questions as you always do. Of course you will never think like me ….. we are individuals and I am female ….. you know you can never understand the way women think.
You know, it’s interesting that every few months there are new names spreading the same misleading messages while at the same time old names that had been spreading those lies have disappeared. Coincidence?
Glad I am not the only one seeing this ….. déjà vu …. same distortions, same falsehoods, same behavior in comments, just a different moniker.
No, I believe the couple is a male couple (not that it matters) with a daughter who feel they are not welcome as a family. Tell me, if this were a opposite-sex couple of different faiths and a child would you label them as two inter-faith activists trying to gain a little limelight? Or if this were the black couple in Mississippi with a child who were denied access to have their wedding in the church they attended just a two black activists trying to gain a little limelight?
“Activist” is such a nice word to toss around. When a judge rules against your beliefs you get to call them an “activist” judge. When two people stand up for their beliefs you get to call them two ________ (fill in the blank with your favorite descriptive word) activists.
I thought the Bible said something about judging people? I guess you must have missed the day they discussed judging people in Bible study.
You are making up that part. Prove it.
Jack
Can’t admit I am wrong if you don’t provide the proof cp444
Of course you can’t :)
Where’s the link cp444? Hmmmm
You’re activists friends provided it for you. Are you just being lazy or lying again?
Are you going to search the statements that come from groups and organizations that Chick-Fil-A supports through their charitable donations to confirm your support or denounce them or are you be lazy because they support your biblical definition of marriage (even though there are lots of examples that are one man and several combinations of women)?
I will conclude, since you have not confirmed or denounced the statements coming from the organizations CFA generously donates to, that you support them. Surly you will say I am twisting your silence to suit what I believe ….. breaking your silence through confirming or denouncing will clear it up.
Then it shouldn’t be a problem for you to provide it then cp444.
And once again you show the true spirit of “Christian” love with name calling.
So cp444 do you have a link to the law suite or not? Either you have a link or you don’t. If you have it please provide it. If you don’t just admit.
Providing it is not a problem at all. Fact is you have already researched it. Not nice to lie jd!
Another example of “Christian” love displayed by cp444.
Yeah :)
Well after asking nicely for your proof you have shown one and all that you have no proof. In affect you just post whatever comes to your mind and when people ask for links or proof you make it about the poster asking rather than proving your point and let’s not forget about your live for tossing out the occasional irrelevant Bible verse.
Why did you let someone else provide it if you could have done it yourself? Where you just waiting for an excuse to call someone a liar?
Jack
He is too lazy to provide it himself (at least that is what he says of others) ;)
He hasn’t denounced the statements I included that some of the organizations he supports via his support of Chick-Fil-A because he can’t be bothered to look them up …. it is easier for him to insult people.
Hmmm I just Goggled Chick-Fil-A lawsuit and the top results are as follows:
Women accuse Chick-fil-A manager of sexual harassment
http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-4-women-claim-they-were-sexually-harassed-at-chickfila-20120105,0,2055463.story
“Eat More Kale” Crusader Fights Back Against Chick-fil-A’s Lawsuit
http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/eat-more-kale-crusader-fights-back-agasint-chick-fil-s-lawsuit.html
Chick-fil-A: Too “sinful” to fry chicken?
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/03/chick_fil_a_too_sinful_to_fry_chicken/
Chick-Fil-A Sued for Gender Discrimination
http://www.glaad.org/blog/chick-fil-sued-gender-discrimination
Chick-Fil-A Sued By Employee Who Was Fired So She Could Be ‘Stay Home’ Mom
http://jonathanturley.org/2012/07/29/chick-fil-a-sued-by-employee-who-was-fired-so-she-could-be-stay-home-mom/
Chick-fil-A: Drop their lawsuit against Bo Muller-Moore.
https://www.change.org/petitions/chick-fil-a-drop-their-lawsuit-against-bo-muller-moore
So which one is the lawsuit by “homosexual activiss”?
What they don’t get is that the Chick-Fil-A boycott was NOT about his right to freedom of speech or to practice his christian beliefs in running his business …. it is about the “charitable” organizations he donates to. Those who supported the business last week allows groups who have stated that gay and lesbian citizens should attend mandatory sexual re-orientation programs, incarcerated, exiled to camps surrounded by fences and barb wire, rounded up and exported from the USA and/or executed by the US government … to receive more money from Chick-Fil-A in the form of “charitable donations”. The newest from a member of one of these groups has stated that children being raised by same-sex parents should be abducted and transported to opposite-sex homes via an “underground railroad”. Just the kind of “christian values” most Christians want to identified with? I think not.
And in many cases the people who murder “abortion” doctors are hailed as hero’s by “Christians” for killing another living breathing person.
I am unsure how some “Christians” can look in a mirror….what looks back at them?
Some “Christians” claim homosexuality is not against Gods will. Not everyone who says their Christians are Christians. Confusing world we live in. God is not a God of confusion, care to guess where it comes from?
The men who invented god?
Hmmmm…let me think…Garden of Eden…fruit of the Tree of Knowledge…apple…serpent…Eve eats of the fruit & offers it to Adam…and they gain “knowledge”.
If God didn’t want man to have knowledge and free will why did he plant the tree in the Garden of Eden?
Wow! You’re really losing it. Btw, no where is it written that it was an apple.
Hmmm when one has nothing in response one resorts to insults, personal attacks, etc…
Now would you like to answer the question asked in the post or will you just resort to more insults?
Ah but God did and does want us to have free will. To simplify, when God says don’t do it, Satan says to do it. There are severe consequences to disobeying God. Meanwhile much like the Garden, Satan says just the opposite, “surely you won’t die”. Sounds very similar to what’s happening today with homosexuality.
I can recommend some excellent Bible commentaries and study Bibles…..there are even some excellent churches in your area.
“Satin says to do it” Satin eh? If you are taking instructions from a piece of fabric, god is the least of your worries…
Oops you got me there. I stand corrected.
Nina Simone said it was…
One commenter here identifies as Christian and advocates (indirectly, as he did not specifically call for it) that a perpetrator of child rape should be raped by an adult cellmate as part of his punishment …. some Christians believe that rape is a serious sin against God’s laws, no matter the circumstances. You identify as a Christian and advocate the monetary support of groups and organizations that call for incarceration of, the exile of and the execution of gays and lesbians. The most recent call from a spokesperson is for the kidnapping of the children of gays and lesbians. Confusing is it not? I agree not everyone who says they are Christian follows the example of Christ.
You have a wild imagination, or should I say you’ve been given over to a depraved mind.
What have I stated in my comment that can not be verified in video or written word?
Keep up the good work cp444. Next we need to go after the lobster eaters since the Bible tells us that eating shellfish is an abomination.
This is 2012 and to think so many people still have to rely on mythology and superstition for comfort, salvation, or whatever. Pretty sad, really.
Agreed.
Just had lobster the other day…..delicious!! Too bad your hung up on Old testament Levitical laws which differ vastly from Gods moral laws which never change. You don’t know what your missing.
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. – Matthew 5:17-18
Seems like you are still supposed to follow those laws, why are you not obeying what your Jesus commands you to do?
Perhaps it is you that fails to see exactly what Jesus came to accomplish. Jesus accomplished just what He came to do. It is finished!
I’d like to bring your attention to the following line:
“For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” – The Earth is still here. It hasn’t disappeared. According to Jesus, whatever he wanted to acomplish is not finished. Are you saying that you know better than your Jesus?
Col 2:13 When you were dead [fn]in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,
Col 2:14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Col 2:15 When He had [fn]disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through [fn]Him.
Col 2:16 Therefore no one is to [fn]act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath [fn]day—
Congrats! You found one of the many contradictions in the bible. Although, I do have to say, it is interesting that you would take Paul’s word over Jesus’ word out of convenience to yourself.
Let me guess, your gay and have no interest in even trying to do anything other than try to discredit the Bible. Congratulations, you’re the 7890000300050990002000 person to try.
Based on your response, I didn’t just try, I succeeded ^_^
Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision,” which is performed in the flesh by human hands—
Eph 2:12 remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, [fn]excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off [fn]have been brought near [fn]by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the [fn]barrier of the dividing wall,
Eph 2:15 [fn]by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might [fn]make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,
It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)
Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)
God (Jesus) din not come to abolish the Law. Did you read anything I posted above? The “Law and the Prophets” IS the Old Testament Scriptures. Jesus is the fullfillment…He accomplished what was never before possible. That being done, Christians are no longer bound to the ceremonial laws of thenOld Testament. (see my previous post) Now you want to live by the Law rather than accept Christ as your Lord and Savior, fine, you will be judged by that Law.
I saw it, and that is what Paul said, not Jesus. Jesus said ”
Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” Matthew 5:17. Your own savior explicitly states that until the Earth is no more, the laws must be followed. If you want to ignore Jesus, that is your choice, but face the fact that you are picking and choosing what to follow. Now tell me, why do you ignore the teachings of your own savior, Jesus?
The statements made are available for you to educate yourself about on the internet, many are on video. All it would take is for you to plug the statement into a search engine. If you prefer to ignore that these statements were made by those who identify as Christians or as family values or Christian values groups and organizations that is your prerogative. If it is your belief that these statements are from those who are hung up on the Old Testament and Leviticus (and thus are not Christian values) …. then perhaps you should re-think your heart-felt support of those who do support them.
Westbrook baptists also claim to be Christian. Perhaps you should read your Bible rather than wicki. Homosexuality is clearly condemned in Scripture, it would take a depraved mind to say otherwise.
Shellfish and haircuts are clearly condemned in Scripture, it would take a depraved mind to say otherwise.
Ohhhh nooooo! Please say it isn’t so.
The company you congratulate, Chick-Fil-A have donated millions of dollars to these groups and organizations. Try Tony Perkins and Bryan Fischer, Family Research Council first ….. Chick-Fil-A donates to the FRC. If you do not agree with this organization please feel free to denounce them and CFS’s support of them.
I don’t believe we have members of the Westboro church posting here …. but I could be wrong. The letter that prompted this discussion inferred that gay males are pedophiles and should be excluded from leadership in the Boy Scouts of America. The topic here is the depiction of gays and lesbians (homosexuals) as pedophiles. Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to, sexual fantasies exclusively about and the sexual abuse of children. 75% of child sexual abuse cases are against female children by adult males. If pedophilia is defined by the gender of the victim and the gender of the perpetrator, then all children need to be protected from all adults, regardless of the sexual orientation of the adult. The majority of these cases are perpetrated by males who are blood related to these female children. Another high percentage of these perpetrators are trusted family friends or in trusted positions by the child`s parents. That is the greatest dis-service to children over the years has been to focus on strangers …. leaving them vulnerable to known perpetrators. The majority of pedophiles and child molesters are not gender specific in their choice of victims …. the defining factor is the age of the victim, not the gender. They perpetrate based on availability of victims. Perhaps someday the general public will understand this.
Do the research on the statements and either support them or denounce them.
If Bryan Fischer hasn’t already said something that isn’t covered by the First Amendment, he’s getting really close. It’s only a matter of time before him, or someone like him, get to be a prime example in America that, no, you cannot say ANYTHING that you want. Just like you can’t scream fire in a building, you can’t tell your listeners to kidnap the children of same sex parents.
the Chick-Fil-A boycott is not about Mr. Cathy’s support for his stance that marriage is between a man and a woman. It is not about freedom of speech or religious freedom. It is about CFA’s “charitable” donations to groups and organizations that support for mandatory sexual re-orientation, incarcerating gays and lesbians for being gay or lesbian, calling for the US government to put gays and lesbians in enclosed camps (ie concentration type camps), abduct children of gays and lesbians and transport them via an “underground railroad” to opposite-sex coupled homes and for the US government to execute gays and lesbians. If you support CFA’s monetary support of the groups and organizations that have made these statements, then keep celebrating and doing business with them ….. those who do not support them can choose to take their business elsewhere.
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Yes and hats off to hate and ignorance in America.
cp444, if you read and believed alot of what we hear and read, you may be true……that is not real life…most americans are spiritual and moral
All Americans are sinners, including you and me. Thats why Jesus came and hung on a cross for us. We(America) have turned our backs on Him….at least until the next big disaster strikes, then the churches fill up again for a month.
Oh come on cp444, do you support CFA’s charitable donations to the Family Research Council and their loudest spokesman, Bryan Fischer who presents as fact:
Gays were responsible for the Holocaust.
American Indians lost their land to European settlers because they weren’t Christian, States have the right to impose religious tests on elected officials.
HIV is not linked to AIDS.
The shooter at the temple in Wisconsin was a left-wing liberal Democrat.
The children of gays and lesbians should be abducted and transported via an underground railroad to heterosexual couples.
Edited …. I forgot one: The 1st Amendment only applies to the freedom of religion for Christians.
These statement are a few that prompted the boycott….. it is not about freedom of speech or freedom of religion.
Do you have sources for that? I’d like to read up more on that myself.
And…just what IS a lemonade pie? It sounds good. That Judy and her disguises with glasses….
Search Bryan Fischer quotes.
Wow! Holy cow!!! That’s crazy talk! Thanks for the info.
You want to know what is really disgusting? That you think a boycott of a business is more heinous than child rape!
Jack
I think he said they have a lot in common, which they do…both practice unnatural sex…sorry you don’t like that….just like rape and heterosexuality have a common thread….but one violates criminal and society norms..not natures law….
Natural: Existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind. By definition, any sex is “natural”.
That’s really pathetic and weak logic. You’re trying to attach two unrelated things in order to smear one.
But if that’s the rubric, I’d say Republicans have a lot in common with rapists. After all, both start with R and both are people. Christians drink wine, so they have a lot in common with alcoholics.
Guess you missed the full statement originally made too, “the difference between a pedophile and a homosexual or heterosexual”…… there appear to be three categories listed there ….. sorry but rape violates natures law too ….I do not believe that it is natural or part of natural law for a human being to force themselves sexually on another human being even if the perpetrator and victim are of the opposite sex.
Just because the anatomy of each is correct to your definition does not make it natural.
Look nobody is trying to smear any group here. You cannot have a debate on a subject and just totally shut out large parts of studied and researched parts….i know it stinks, but you cant. Pedophilia is accepted among the main homosexual lifestyle…not by everyone…. Maybe not the circles you run in, but mainstream homosexuals, you know the ‘bunch at the top’ who currently steer this movement nationally. Child love is accepted in mainstream homosexual lifestyles….maybe not locally or statewide, but it is acceptable…and silent….just like heterosexual pedophilia, but is it any less wrong?…no. Child love permeates almost all gay literature…it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see this. If the homosexual movement was so against this they would come out and outwardly and often reject NAMBLA and all they stand for..NAMBLA exists becuase they are afforded some cover from the homosexual movement….Write to the major gay publishers and say, no…we will not stand for homosexuals being associated with pedophilia. 30% of the convictions of child rape (boys only) are perpertrated by proclaimed homosexuals. 3% of the population committing 30% of the child crimes…..i am not saying homosexuals and pedophilia is the same thing. This is not about who is a worse perpertrator, heterosexuals or homosexuals, its about the discussion that pedophilia is over represented by homosexuals according to their population in pedophilia crimes. Hit reply if you have constructive debate….hit esc if you are hateful…..
Now you just went full crazy. Do you have any evidence to any of your claims? Like any links to studies, statements from major LGBT organizations condoning pedophilia, anything at all?
Look-you simply do not know what you are talking about. I have known many gay men from coast to coast and what you are describing is not the norm. In fact, most gay men I know, from California to New Brunswick, love the sort of guy you’ll see on tv right now on NBC-the wrestlers, the discus throwers, the gymnasts (sigh…that Danell is gorgeous!), the swimmers (Ryan is amazing), tack and fielders (Dmitriy Karpov is tall and sexy!) etc. While there are some gay people who are members of NAMBLA, NAMBLA is, in fact, scorned by mainstream gays. NAMBLA is a small and weak organization and the fact that we aren’t denouncing it daily (like we denounce NOM), doesn’t mean we condone it. Bears and those who love them are far more common than boy-loving. (Bear? Look up Iranian wrestler Ghasem Rezaei).
You are now only spreading outright lies with the actual goal of smearing all gay men.
Also, how can something be “accepted among the main homosexual lifestyle” but then only by the “bunch at the top”?
How about you cite some of this studied research. And not by groups known to hate homosexuals, but by peer reviewed researchers.
And cite your references for those numbers, brah.
Why would a high ranking Obama Official (homosexual) not use this opportunity to decry NAMBLA….Im sorry to drag Obama into this, its not about him, but high ranking “Bunch at the top” types i mentioned.
Harry Hay, who “inspired” Obama-appointed Education Department official Kevin Jennings to lead a life of homosexual activism, a supporter of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)…. Jennings was announced as the Assistant Deputy Secretary, Office of Safe & Drug Free Schools, in the Department of Education on… His official biography mentions his role in creating an organization, the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network (GLSEN), which is supposed to provide factual information about the history of the “gay rights” movement to teachers and students. But the references to Hay in GLSEN literature fail to include anything about his CPUSA, pro-NAMBLA or Radical Faerie activities. Jennings said in 1997 that Hay should serve as an inspiration. “One of the people that’s always inspired me is Harry Hay, who started the first ongoing gay rights group in America,” he said….
This guy Hay will go down in history as the reason God created hell. An evil, evil man that has moved a movement forward NOT WITH THE BLESSING OF THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY…but hiding amounst them….
RegularJoe..this discussion is not about regular homosexuals…every one here was ‘outraged’ that anyone would link homosexuals and pedophilia. Heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals 20 to 1, but homosexual pedophiles commit about one third the total number of child sex offenses
Pedophilias of today believe pedophilia is a sexual orientation…not a crime, and they will move toward that until it is accepted as such. Pedophilia may not move within the homosexual community but it moves forward as the homosexual community moves forward.
But major medical associations do not believe that pedophilia is an orientation. The idea that it was included as an orientation was pushed by right-wing religious groups and individuals to convince voters that adding sexual orientation in Human Rights Acts would in include pedophiles, bestiality and those with fetishes. You are repeating it and it is false.
It’s silly to say it’s an orientation. That’s like saying that liking big burley hairy men exclusively is an orientation.
Why do continue to not address the female victims of pedophiles …. why are you not advocating for their protection? You appear to only be concerned about protecting male victims when you could be denouncing the sexual abuse of all children in every comment. It used to be that male victims, because they were a smaller percentage of victims were not addressed. Now that the victimization of boys is finally being addressed, the percentage of girls (which is still 3 times over that of boys) are not being addressed at all.
I consider myself mainstream …. and I know of no gay man or lesbian that believes sexual abuse of children (that is what it is) is acceptable. You can keep repeating it but it is not true. NAMBLA was an organization of pedophiles trying to legitimize their sexual attraction and rape of children… and they supposedly had parents (heterosexual mothers and fathers) of children who agreed that it should be legal.
We were just discussing the narrow scope of homosexuals and pedophiles…I am hopeful when you describe you views of right and wrong of sexual abuse and homosexuality.
Your view of how this started is absolutely false, but i wont go any farther there.
All over the world, there is immense pressure to lower the age of consent. That movement is currently underground in he homosexual community, not mainstream and not embraced by the homosexual community but radical portions of this community at best ignore it at worst embrace it….. But this movement will move paralell with homosexual movement….i’m sorry. sick people like pedofiles are using homosexuality as its host….
This movement does not believe it is sexual abuse but…um…what do they call that ..like age generational or something like that
You’re blaming the mainstream for not taking care of the radical fringe. And really, what is your point now? It’s gotten lost. I have a point, though, and that’s that whatever types of sick people who are gay, there are straight people just as sick.
You said: Pedophilia is accepted among the main homosexual lifestyle…not by
everyone…. Maybe not the circles you run in, but mainstream
homosexuals
*I said I consider myself mainstream and you are not correct.
Then you went on to describe not mainstream (everyday ordinary) gays and lesbians but clearly a group that clearly are attracted only to children. NAMBLA is an organization of pedophiles that want to legalize the sexual abuse of children.
*Again, this is not accepted by mainstream gays and lesbians. You are describing people who are primarily attracted to, fantasizes exclusively about and sexually abuse children.
You then go on to state that “Child Love” permeates almost all gay literature and it doesn`t take a rocket scientist ……
*Apparently you read a lot of “gay literature” that is riddled with references to sex with children …. apparently I do not as I don`t know what “literature” you are talking about and you provided no examples.
*Personally the only thing I have heard about NAMBLA in the last 10-15 years has been in comment sections of online news or the BDN or other Maine papers and it usually comes up in a discussion about gays and lesbians. Does this group still exist in the US? To the best of my recollection they were unilaterally banned from any and all LGBT events years ago by organizers and mainstream LGBTs.
NAMBLA and sexual abusers of children are not accepted by mainstream, everyday, ordinary gay and lesbian people any more than they are accepted by mainstream, everyday, ordinary straight people.
What disgusting lies. Pedophilia is not accepted in the homosexual. That’s so ridiculous.
NAMBLA is a fringe group and you’re trying to act like they’re the leaders or something. Why doesn’t the Tea Party ever renounce racism in its ranks? You don’t get to pluck the worst examples and pretend that that represents the majority. It’s dishonesty.
You’re the hateful one. That’s very clear.
Most of the priest who molested children in the church were homosexuals. Your statement is naive and self serving, in your world you can never imagine that a homosexual can too be a pedophile. Homosexuals are very good at playing the victim when they get caught or called out for inappropriate behavior. There was a professor at UM who verbally and emotionally abused students and the administration was terrified to go after them because they had control over many of the students who defended this professors behavior and of course the professor would claim they were being picked on because of their sexual orientation. I have also witness the same thing in one of our local high schools.
Yes, I would agree with the statement that most homosexuals are not pedophiles, however I would question any adult who wanted to be involved in youth organizations unless they had a child in the organization.
No, it’s not naive. Pedophilia isn’t about the gender of the child. They prey on children because they’re weak, not because of their anatomy. You really need to read up before you start making bold statements.
Gay people and pedophiles aren’t one in the same. So yeah, when you start trying to paint them that way, they will get upset. Hey, the past two mass murders were white heterosexuals — does that make it fair to paint all white heterosexual men in that same light? No, that’s pure stupidity. It’s not the truth and it’s not fair at all.
If according to you most of the priests who molested children in the church were homosexuals then those priests would have sought an adult, not a child. They would not be pedophiles, they would be child molesters.
There is a difference between a pedophile and a child molester. A pedophile is someone whose primary source of sexual gratification is a child, they will not substitute an adult as the source of gratification. A child molester is someone whose primary source of sexual gratification is a consenting adult, they will substitute a child as the source of gratification.
Priests take an oath of celibacy. They take a vow promising they will not engage in sexual relations. They take a vow promising they will not seek sexual gratification. If a priest has a heterosexual orientation, he has an attraction to adult females. If a priest has a homosexual orientation, he has an attraction to adult males. If a priest is a pedophile he is not attracted to an adult male or female, he is attracted to children. If a priest is primarily attracted to adults but substitutes a child for an adult for sexual gratification, the priest is a child molester.
If the church decided to do away with “alter boys” and instead put in
“alter girls” do you think the girls would be safe from sexual abuse
from priests who prey on children? Would you then claim that these
priests were heterosexuals? Or a pedophile? Or a child molester?
Leverett Merrill, I assume that you have access to a computer or there may be a library within driving distance. Please use these tools to educate yourself as to the difference between a pedophile and a homosexual or heterosexual. There is a difference.
Since they all engage in unnatural sex, I’d say the have quite a bit in common.
Yes all the heterosexual sodomites I am sure upset you to no end
Over his head and under his feet :)
LOL yes I guess you are right.
No, there isn’t a lot in common. You’re going to compare a victim of sexual abuse to someone that’s in a consensual and committed relationship? What a disgusting and shameful assertion to make.
As usual, you are reading things that I didn’t write. My comment was on unnatural sex.
How stupid do you think people are? You comment “Since they all engage in unnatural sex, I’d say the have quite a bit in common.” was in reply to a comment saying there is a difference between a pedophile and a homosexual, implying that there is stuff in common between a pedophile and a homosexual. You can deny it all you want, but people on here are not as ignornat as you and can actually see what you are implying.
As usual, you’re trying to step away from the awful and ignorant things you say. Your comment said that gay people and child molestors have a lot in common. That’s a disgusting lie and now you’re trying to act like you didn’t say that. You said it, it’s right there in black and white.
So victimization and law mean nothing to you EJ?
Really? It’s all about what you consider icky sex?
Oh, good grief…
Bruce Dorr, too bad our esteemed Governor LePage hasn’t followed the flight of our bright young HS grads who flee this state at an ever increasing rate. Could it be that he is trying to make it more difficult for them to get a decent paying job out of state? That way they will be forced to stay here and work for minimum wage/no benefit jobs, or fill his prophecy that we have the most people on welfare.
In 2010, approximately 80% of Maine teens who had not completed high school, wereunemployed or not in the labor force. Of the teens who had completed high school, butwere not enrolled in higher education, an estimated 47% were unemployed or not in thelabor force…There is your problem…..Sorry you don’t like the way people say stuff…..its understandable. There is a crisis in Maine’s education system….Either come up with some ideas that changes the system fundamentally or step down and let someone else take a crack at it….but you cant protect and coddle part of the problem and solve the problem at the same time…..quick side note……um…its NOT 95% of the teachers….
I think if you check in the poorer counties you will find that roughly 80% of the HS graduates leave the state within the first few years. They may leave to pursue higher education but they leave. Most don’t return because there are not enough jobs available to allow them to pay their student loans and live a normal life.
In Washington County, sadly, many of those that don’t complete HS end up in the drug culture. Unfortunately many who do complete HS end up in the drug culture.
IMO, when you have a state that has little job opportunity, you could have the best public education system in the world and you will still have an unemployment problem.
Our esteemed Governor LePage has made the claim that there are over 20,000 skilled jobs going unfilled in Maine. Due to the lack of skilled workes in this state. I would think if that were true that those who have left the state would be flocking back to fill those jobs.
I would like to know where those jobs are. What skills are needed to fill those jobs. Where the training is to qualify for those jobs. What do those jobs pay in comparison with other states offering these same jobs. Is that asking too much?
To Leverett Merrill: As far as anyone was concerned, Jerry Sandusky was a normal, heterosexual male. Under the Boy Scout’s policy, he would have been welcomed. The policy doesn’t seem to be doing a very good job then.
I think if Mr. Sandusky had noted on his resume he was a child rapist and pedophile, he would have been denied leadership….just like any other group that is looking for leaders, you choose based on the information given and what references say…THAT is the common policy.
The point is, before people found out that Jerry Sandusky was a pedophile, this policy would not have done anything to protect children from him. Instead of saying that they need to keep gays out to protect children, they should actually start screening people for reasons other than sexual orientation.
you mean in addition to sexual orientation
No, I meant what I said. Just because the BSA has a legal right to have a certain policy , doesn’t mean that they should.
Nor that it’s even right, fair, or just.
They don’t think Mark Bingham would be a good leader? Just the fact that he was gay would be enough to label him a potential pedophile instead of a true leader?
Indeed. There is always that tiny part of me that wants to just be done with all of this and move to Canada, but then I would be letting the bigots win.
Yes Joe ….. and all the members of the armed forces, police departments, fire departments,etc who are gay or lesbian, (even if they are celibate) also need not apply …. they would not make it through the application process as their orientation alone disqualifies them as incapable of being good leaders. Right? ;-)
It’s just a matter of time before they show their true colors and start attacking children.
~rolls eyes~
I know ….. children are not victims …. they must be doing something to tempt or incite adults to treat them the way they do. It’s an extremely sad commentary but somehow it excuse bad behavior.
We see this over and over when it comes to bullying issues. If a kid would just change about themselves whatever the reason for the bullying then they wouldn’ t get picked on. This has come to the forefront with LGBT kids and groups like the Family Research Council, Concerned Women of America and many “people of faith” who blame the kid being targeted instead of putting the responsibility on the bullies. But that reasoning does not apply to them when they claim they are being bullied …..
He meant what he typed. It’s nobody’s business what any person’s sexual orientation is. Gay or straight, anyone can or cannot be a pedophile, brah. You know that.
If sexual orientation is an indicator of pedophilia or child molestation then males would be denied positions or leadership roles with all children. 96% of sexual abuse crimes against children are perpetrated by males. Of course that means 4% are perpetrated by females so just in case females, no matter their orientation should be denied also. That leaves…… no one.
Leverett Merrill–You really need to educate yourself, as stated below homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing.Rebecca Hobbs –good letter I agree with you.
Eloise Kleban –You better hope the Obama wins in Nov. as Mitt (R)money has promised to reverse everything done under Obama including the EPA changes.
Deanna House –I doubt Mr. Hathaway has a snowballs chance in “you know where”. He certainly has blinders on when it concerns our governor.
Elisha Reynolds — I hope and pray you are right but for me I am doing everything I can to make my carbon footprint as small as possible and I hope everyone else does the same. NASA
has some pretty convincing facts that should make one think, I suggest you read it at
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Bruce Dorr, Eloise Kleban, Deanna House; good letters.
Elisha Reynolds: massive amounts of misinformation, refuted elsewhere. AGW is not a joke, the joke’s on you.
Elisha Reynolds–99% of climatologists disagree with you. Your children and grandchildren will pay the price for your stubbornness. Where will they go when the oceans are dead, the air is unfit to breath and most species are extinct?
Did you read “The Population Bomb” in the 70’s? It was wrong as well.
Elisha Reynolds has a right to her opinion and her opinion will have no bearing on whatever happens to the climate. KCjonez, do you fly in jet planes? Do you drive a car? Do you heat your home with something other than sunlight? Do you eat food that someone else grew, most likely in the central valley of California, food that was brought to you by trucks belching exhaust into the atmosphere? If the answer is “yes” to any of those questions, then you are guilty of destroying the atmosphere if, in fact, climate change is caused by humans. An action is worse than an opinion. And, if you know that adding carbon to the atmosphere is lethal to the planet, why do you do it? Are you suicidally insane?
Brightmeadows–Everyone has a right to be wrong. I am aware of the connection between the behaviors you list and their unintended consequences and therefor limit my use of said behaviors. Those who blindly insist that global climate change is a lie have no such compunction and generally contribute much greater carbon emissions than those of us who feel guilty about it. I raise much of my own food and advocate buying locally whenever possible. I consider this to be conservative behavior.
You limit them? Knowing full well that you’re harming the environment? Is that like only stabbing yourself only a little bit? How do you get that those who blindly insist to disagree with you contribute much greater carbon emissions than those who feel guilty about it? That’s rubbish! Total rubbish. You think way too highly of yourself. You think that your superior attitude mitigates the harm that YOU do to the environment. Your children and grandchildren will hold YOU in contempt for your willful transgression against the environment..: “Grandma you knew that driving the car was killing the planet and you did it anyway!”
More like being addicted to smoking. You try to wean yourself off, until you completely quit.
Most former smokers will tell you that quitting cold turkey works. Those who say otherwise simply don’t want to quit even though they know it’s killing them.
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Two reasons are driving the “global warming” philosophy – first is a “feel good” momentum that wants to find some reason to blame humans for a natural phenomenom. The second is a push to socialize the global warming theory by the transfer of large sums of money from the “developed” nations (that’s us) to the “developing” nations (that’s them) through the corrupt beauracy that is the United Nations!
Leverett and Elisha – Great letters. They’ve already got the opposition frothing at the mouth.
Well that’s just great, keep spreading the lie that gay people are pedophiles. Meanwhile, upstanding, heterosexual citizens like Jerry Sandusky can continue to abuse children. After all, they are fine, heterosexual people, who wouldn’t hurt anyone, right?
As for global warming, it’s between you, anonymous internet person, and Bill Nye. I think I know who I trust.
Didn’t say that gay people are pedophiles. And Leverett didn’t mention pedophiles either.
Sandusky is a slime ball and deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars with a large, hairy bunk mate.
As for climate change, get that checkbook out and write AlGore a big one. He needs the money to build his second billion in hoax money.
Leverett implied that gay people are pedophiles and you agreed with him. If you want to keep perpetuating that myth by not correcting someone, go right ahead. You only put more children at risk by not actually implementing a comprehensive system to protect them, instead going “Hurr Durr, we kept them gays out, our kids must be safe now”. As for global warming, if your persecution complex says that hundreds of thousands of scientists are all out to trick people, then you go on and believe your conspiracy theories.
I agree with the content of his letter, that the Boy Scouts have a right to deny homosexual leaders in their ranks because some gays are predators. I also stand with the Boy Scouts when they say that gay leaders are not good examples for Boy Scouts to follow. Homosexuals do not live up to the Boy Scout Oath:
On my honor, I will do my bestTo do my duty to God and my Country and to obey the Scout Law;To help other people at all times;To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
Some hetorsexuals are also predators. Following your logic, they should be banned as well.
I was just going to say this.
…… somehow I doubt morally straight refers to sexual orientation i.e. straight as in heterosexual, there are many heterosexuals who engage in behaviors that Mr. Parsons believes are immoral.
So, in that context, the Boy Scouts have a right to deny Catholic as leaders in their ranks because some are predators ? Would you then say that Catholic Clergy, or wait, Catholic Men are do not live up to the Boy Scout Oath ? See where this type of logical fallacy leads..
Good point!
Would you feel the same about banning christians EJ?
You still need to google Dr. Richard Muller and understand why the most academically gifted climate change denier has looked at the evidence and pronounced global warming both real and man-made.
Mr. Leverett didn’t specifically use the term ” pedophiles” ….. he only mentioned “gay predators to take advantage of young boys” and ” to protect young boys from gay predators” …. he wasn’t inferring “pedophile”s at all.
If I said that heterosexual males should not be in leadership roles involving girls in order to protect girls from heterosexual male predators” or that by continuing the leadership roles allows “heterosexual male predators to take advantage of young girls” …. I wouldn’t be inferring that male heterosexual predators are pedophiles either.
Edited to add: would you care to expand on: “spend the rest of his life behind bars with a large, hairy bunk mate.” I notice comments similar to this posted by many on articles that relate to the sexual abuse of male children …… generally inferring that the perpetrators should be on the receiving end of crime they committed against a child….. I believe you mean that they be on the receiving end of a severe beating … but others may not. (re-edit …… guess I was wrong)
So “unnatural sex” is okay if it’s prison rape?
Sandusky raped a lot of young boys. He deserves no pity.
…..and I was genuinely giving you the benefit of the doubt (below) on the meaning of your comment, actually believing that you meant a severe beating, not rape.
I find it odd that you condone “unnatural sex” as a punishment.
Nope he didn’t. What he actually said was that gay men are predators and they take advantage of boys. He didn’t even say anything about child rape but we all know that is what he was talking about. Trouble is people that rape children are people that prey on children or take advantage of them sexually and they can be male or female but we all know they are commonly called pedophiles.
Jack
So the ideal Boy Scout Master would be a homophobic, chicken-sandwich-eating denier of global warming? Astounding!
Ignorance and fear, create waves of perception, that are not based on fact.
Considering what the youth of this country has become, it would be nice to at least have someone normal leading them in the Scouts. Like it or not, there is nothing normal about homosexuals. They attempt to force their way into every corner of society. Will they also want the Scouts to wear a rainbow patch on their sleeve?
If the Scouts do not want homosexuals, then start your own scouting club instead of forcing your way in where you’re not wanted.
Like it or not, gay people are just regular people who are already in every corner of society just as we have been for thousands of years.
Stereotypes, myths, and lies. Nice post, brah.
They would be harmed more by the likes of you, bigotry, is taught, homosexuality is not. You can’t make someone a homosexual, but you can make someone a bigot.
And also, as if ALL non-gay people are normal…!
Right have you stepped up to the plate? You would make a great role model for youth. We all want the young men of the state and nation telling gay and lesbian youth to stand in the middle of I95 instead of telling them they should just go kill themselves. Same outcome but different methods. Much more compassionate. You must have learned that when you were in the Marines? Gods help the US if you did.
Jack
Good point, Mr. Merrill! But only if you believe all gay men are sexual predators and no straight people are. However, if you DO believe that, then you’re wrong.
Homosexual does not equal pedophile. That is the problem with your thinking.
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Look here is the issue down to brass tacks…..
In 2010, approximately 80% of Maine teens who had not completed high school, wereunemployed or not in the labor force. Of the teens who had completed high school, butwere not enrolled in higher education, an estimated 47% were unemployed or not in thelabor force.Now, you may not like how people say stuff, i get that…..but in this case, its like getting diagnosed in the ER with a serious illness and being moved into surgery only to find out they cant help you because you printed your name at the botton, not signed it.Is there a problem in Maine’s education system?Yes….Either come up with new ideas or get out of the way. Gov. LePage is not going to move forward with solving issues while protecting some class of group cause they may not like what he has to say….15 years of this social experiment is over. Those who created this system need to step down while new ideas are implemented..based on solid educational science…When you cannot go around the country and share positive ideas that Maine has done in the past 10 years in education, for other states to replicate, then you ARE looked down in the professional community as nothing to offer..
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Very well said!
Let us recall the belief of EJ Parsons that gays and lesbians willingly choose their gender orientation and could easily change it if they wished. A convenient excuse to demonize gays and lesbians re any and every issue where it’s at all relevant. I have many gay and lesbian friends, and I know of none who made such a choice. But are they as compared with Mr. Parsons. If, however, he or Merrill had a child or other family member who was avowedly gay or lesbian, rest assured that–as with former VP Dick Cheyney and his lesbian daughter–they would see the world differently. For now, they want gays and lesbians to be ascetic–like the pedophile priests in Parsons’ beloved Catholic Church?
Mrs. House and Mr. Dorr, great letters. Mr. Dorr, couldn’t have it better myself. LePage is a Stain on the Blaine.
Great letters Mrs. House and Mr. Dorr. LePage is indeed a Stain on the Blaine and the worst governor we have ever had. But, come November, we can make him the lamest of lame ducks by tossing his TeaRadical rubber stampers right out of the state house. Let’s get that done.