Editor’s note: An occasional look at claims made in political campaigns and how they adhere to the facts.
WASHINGTON — GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan took some factual shortcuts during the Republican convention when he attacked President Barack Obama’s policies on Medicare, the economic stimulus and the budget deficit. His running mate, Mitt Romney, was expected to speak later Thursday in the convention’s culmination.
A closer look at only some of Ryan’s remarks Wednesday at the GOP convention in Tampa, Fla.:
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Ryan: “And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. … So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama.”
The Facts: Ryan’s claim ignores the fact that Ryan himself incorporated the same cuts into budgets he steered through the House in the past two years as chairman of its Budget Committee, using the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.
In addition, Ryan’s own plan to remake Medicare would squeeze the program’s spending even more than the changes Obama made, shifting future retirees into a system in which they would get a fixed payment to shop for coverage among private insurance plans. Critics charge that would expose the elderly to more out-of-pocket costs.
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Ryan: “The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate welfare and cronyism at their worst. You, the working men and women of this country, were cut out of the deal.”
The Facts: Ryan himself asked for stimulus funds shortly after Congress approved the $800 billion plan, known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Ryan’s pleas to federal agencies included letters to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis seeking stimulus grant money for two Wisconsin energy conservation companies.
One of them, the nonprofit Wisconsin Energy Conservation Corp., received $20.3 million from the Energy Department to help homes and businesses improve energy efficiency, according to federal records. That company, he said in his letter, would build “sustainable demand for green jobs.” Another eventual recipient, the Energy Center of Wisconsin, received about $365,000.
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Ryan: Said Obama misled people in Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, Wis., by making them think a General Motors plant there threatened with closure could be saved. “A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: ‘I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.’ That’s what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year.”
The Facts: The plant halted production in December 2008, weeks before Obama took office and well before he enacted a more robust auto industry bailout that rescued GM and Chrysler and allowed the majority of their plants — though not the Janesville facility — to stay in operation. Ryan himself voted for an auto bailout under President George W. Bush that was designed to help GM, but he was a vocal critic of the one pushed through by Obama that has been widely credited with revitalizing both GM and Chrysler.
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Ryan: Obama “created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way and then did exactly nothing.”
The Facts: It’s true that Obama hasn’t heeded his commission’s recommendations, but Ryan’s not the best one to complain. He was a member of the commission and voted against its final report.
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Associated Press writers Tom Raum, Andrew Taylor, Henry C. Jackson and Bradley Klapper contributed to this report.



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Even the dead corps of Jim Varney would do a better job….
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GOP is following the game plan of lie, distort, and repeat. I don’t care what anyone says, repeating a lie does not make it the truth. It remains a lie, told repeatedly.
I’m going to trust the AP for a fact check?? That is one of the funniest things I’ve seen all year.
Too funny!
I would certainly trust the AP more than Faux News. “Fair and balanced” my foot!
FactCheck.org try this. Maybe a more trusting check. The AP hit the nail on the head with their check. Its there in black and white with straight up facts for all to see.
In other words, Mr. Ryan spoke the truth….he just was not truthful enough…..Crazy….
Ryan told half the truth, which is the same as lying. You can’t be sort of honest, you either are or you are not. And he is not.
Amazing that this Loser got on National Television and LIED about most of the issues. Romney Flip Flops all the time. I don’t know whether lying is a sin if you are a Mormon. BUT Ryan is just a blatant LIER. So much for being a Catholic and lying all the time. Better go to confession Ryan. You need it bad.
And next week, you’ll praise the socialist promoting, class warfare diversion BS coming from the teleprompters in Charlotte next week. Unreal.
FYI. Talking about the growth in wealth inequality is not warfare, it’s pointing out a fact. Class warfare from the left requires a guillotine.
Paul Ryan, candidate for VP, has had his instructions on using an Etch-a-Sketch. (In case any BDN commenters have forgotten, one of Mitt Romney’s people used the Etch-a-Sketch to explain how Romney would go from running in the primaries to running in the general election. And in case any BDN commenters have lived completely in a cave, an Etch-a-Sketch is a toy on which something can be drawn then quickly erased with a shake in order to draw something else. This pretty well sums up the political career of Mitt Romney.)
In other words, in the real world, Both Romney and Ryan are LIARS and can NOT be trusted.
Hmm..maybe the AP should check a little better. They
sure got the GM plant wrong based on what Ryan said.
Obama DID make it sound like the GOVT was going to
save that plant and it did finally close after he was in office.
Ryan’s GM plant was closed while Bush was in office. One year before Obama even took office. Freaking LIAR. The Republicans claim to represent the Religious Right. Guess they don’t know what lies are too.
Fact checking the fact checkers.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/08/30/yes-paul-ryan-spoke-the-truth-about-obamas-fiscal-record/
Also the president did mislead the people of Jainsville…….during the bailout GM was building auto plants in India, China and Mexico, he made it seem to the people, that the bailout would allow the plants operation. For an administration that wants control of so much they could not attach strings to stimulus funds (look ast the green job outsourcing as well).
Also it is most certainly not widely credited that the bailout helped GM (they were considerable down last quarter)…Chrysler is doing well?????HUH????even many progressives don’t buy that speak.
Obama had nothing to do with the Janesville plant’s closing in 2008. Obama didn’t take office until 2009, and the administration made no decisions about plant closings. The choice of which plants survived or closed was made by GM and Fiat management. And on both sides, the charges and countercharges are not as clear as either party might have them.
Forbes has the reputation of being a stuffy, conservative magazine for old money types. Hardly an unbias media. More like old white man bias. Not something one would read to their kids for a bedtime story.
Racist!
I don’t know you so i can’t say if you are or not. But I do know that Maine is probably one of the most prejudice states in the Country. One of our dirty little secrets.
Should I be ashamed to be a white man? You sure make it sound so. I guess racism is prevalent no matter the color of ones skin.
No sir not at all. Never be ashamed of who or what you are unless need be. I was pointing out that Forbes magazine is hardly an unbiased medium. And stories need to be taken as who wrote them. In this day and age of politics there are not many mediums either in print or on air that are not bias in one way or another. Not here to step on toes, just trying to figure out the direction the wind is blowing.
This article is actually doing all the misleading. For an accurate breakdown of Mr. Ryan’s assertions, I urge you to read this highly factual article by James Capretta on National Review:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/315508/ryan-and-his-panicky-critics-james-c-capretta
Excerpts:
“Almost from the moment Ryan finished his speech, apologists for the president (including the Washington Post) have come out swinging, quite plainly indignant that Ryan landed so many punches when the usual media filters couldn’t stop him…”
“These criticisms of Ryan’s speech are absurd. Everything Ryan said is factual and a fair reading of the record and prior events…” (Capretta then provides his factual analysis of Ryan’s speech and dismantles Ryan’s critics in turn.)
“Paul Ryan’s acceptance speech was a tour de force, and a clear success. One measure of that success is the intensity and emptiness of the attacks coming his way. The irony is that these attacks — intended to damage Ryan by undermining his credibility — are more likely to be seen by the electorate for what they really are: desperate and dishonest tactics from those willing to say and do anything to hang on to power.”
There is nothing misleading about it, it’s the facts. The foodstamp president has not done anything to create jobs. Nobody ever heard the phrase “SAVED or created” before this bozo.
A liberal state like Maine will never learn, huge advances could be made in this state by approving the east-west highway, mining, fish farming, and developing the northern Maine woods into a tourist mecca. We could have a 3% unemployment rate with high paying jobs like North Dakota has in the midwest. North Dakota found oil, fought off the food stamp presidents desire to stop the drilling and created thousands of jobs. All of the sudden even liberals in North Dakota favor big oil.
It doesn’t matter what Ryan did, Obama is the president and all of Ryan’s statements were factually correct. Face it, Obama is a liar, divider, terrible leader and seems to not care about Americans at all.
“Lies, Damned Lies and ‘Fact Checking’
If you’ve ever found yourself engaged in a futile, one-sided argument with a politician on your TV screen, you’re hardly alone in your frustration. However, if you’re inclined to jot down such intemperate outbursts, and have the chutzpah to charge people for your services – you might have what it takes to joint the ranks of one of journalism’s most popular and elite new breeds.
They call themselves ‘fact checkers,’ and with the name comes a veneer of objectivity doubling as a license to go after any remark by a public figure they find disagreeable for any reason. Just look at the Associated Press to understand how the scheme works. The venerable wire service’s recent ‘fact check’ of statements made at the November 12 GOP presidential candidates’ foreign policy debate was a doozy…
So with 2012 just around the corner, brace yourself for a fact-checking deluge. Just remember: The fact checker is less often a referee than a fan with a rooting interest in the outcome.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/lies-damned-lies-and-fact-checking_611854.html?page=1