HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. — An aggressive President Barack Obama accused challenger Mitt Romney of favoring a “one-point plan” to help the rich in America and playing politics with the recent deadly terrorist attack in Libya in a Tuesday night debate crackling with energy and emotion just three weeks before the election.

Romney pushed back hard, saying the middle class “has been crushed over the last four years,” that 23 million Americans are struggling to find work and that the death of the U.S. ambassador to Libya was part of an unraveling of the administration’s foreign policy.

The president was feistier from the outset than he had been in their initial encounter two weeks ago, when he turned in a listless performance that sent shudders through his supporters and helped fuel a rise by Romney in opinion polls nationally and in some battleground states.

Obama and Romney disagreed, forcefully and repeatedly — about taxes, measures to reduce the deficit, energy, pay equity for women and health care as well as foreign policy across 90 minutes of a town-hall style debate.

Immigration prompted yet another clash, Romney saying Obama had failed to pursue the comprehensive legislation he promised at the dawn of his administration, and the president saying Republican obstinacy made a deal impossible.

Romney gave as good as he got.

“You’ll get your chance in a moment. I’m still speaking,” the former Massachusetts governor said at one point while Obama was mid-sentence, drawing a gasp from the audience. He said the president’s policies had failed to jumpstart the economy and had cramped energy production.

The open-stage format left the two men free to stroll freely across a red-carpeted stage, and they did. Their clashes crackled with energy and tension, and the crowd watched raptly as the two sparred while struggling to appear calm and affable before a national television audience.

While most of the debate was focused on policy differences, there was one more-personal moment, when Obama said Romney had investments in China.

“Mr. President, have you looked at your pension?” Romney interrupted.

“You know, I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours,” shot back Obama to his wealthier rival.

Under the format agreed to in advance, members of an audience of 82 uncommitted voters posed questions to the president and his challenger.

Nearly all of them concerned domestic policy until one raised the subject of the recent death of the U.S. ambassador to Libya in a terrorist attack at an American post in Benghazi. Romney said it took Obama a long time to admit the episode had been a terrorist attack, but Obama said he had said so the day after in an appearance in the Rose Garden outside the White House.

When moderator Candy Crowley of CNN said the president had in fact done so, Obama, prompted, “Say that a little louder, Candy.”

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has taken responsibility for the death of Ambassador L. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, but Obama said bluntly, “I’m the president, and I’m always responsible.”

Romney said it was “troubling” that Obama continued with a campaign event in Las Vegas on the day after the attack in Libya, an event the Republican said had “symbolic significance and perhaps even material significance.”

Obama seemed to bristle. He said it was offensive for anyone to allege that he or anyone in his administration had used the incident for political purposes. “That’s not what I do.”

One intense exchange focused on competing claims about whether energy production is increasing or slowing. Obama accused Romney of misrepresenting what has happened — a theme he returned to time and again. Romney strode across the stage to confront Obama face to face, just feet from the audience.

Both men pledged a better economic future to a young man who asked the first question, a member of a pre-selected audience of 82 uncommitted voters.

Then the president’s determination to show a more aggressive side became evident.

Rebutting his rival’s claim to a five-point plan to create 12 million jobs, Obama said, “Gov. Romney says he’s got a five-point plan. Gov. Romney doesn’t have a five-point plan. He has a one-point plan. And that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play by a different set of rules.”

“That’s been his philosophy in the private sector,” Obama said of his rival. “That’s been his philosophy as governor. That’s been his philosophy as a presidential candidate. You can make a lot of money and pay lower tax rates than somebody who makes a lot less.”

“You can ship jobs overseas and get tax breaks for it. You can invest in a country, bankrupt it, lay off the workers, strip away their pensions and you still make money. That’s exactly the philosophy that we’ve seen in place for the last decade,” the president said in a scorching summation.

Unable to respond at length because of the debate’s rules, Romney said the accusations were “way off the mark.”

But moments later, he reminded the national television audience of the nation’s painfully slow recovery from the worst recession in decades.

There are “23 million people struggling to find a job. … The president’s policies have been exercised over the last four years and they haven’t put America back to work,” he said. “We have fewer people working today than when he took office.”

Economic growth has been slow throughout Obama’s term in office, and unemployment only recently dipped below 8 percent for the first time since he moved into the White House. Romney noted that if out-of-work Americans who no longer look for jobs were counted, the unemployment rate would be 10.7 percent.

Both men had rehearsed extensively for the encounter, a turnabout for Obama.

“I had a bad night,” the president conceded, days after he and Romney shared a stage for the first time, in Denver. His aides made it known he didn’t intend to be as deferential to his challenger this time, and the presidential party decamped for a resort in Williamsburg, Va., for rehearsals that consumed the better part of three days.

Romney rehearsed in Massachusetts and again after arriving on Long Island on debate day, with less to make up for.

Asked Tuesday night by one member of the audience how he would differ from former President George W. Bush, the last Republican to hold the office, Romney said, “We are different people and these are different times.”

He said he would attempt to balance the budget, something Bush was unsuccessful in doing, get tougher on China and work more aggressively to expand trade.

Obama jumped in with his own predictions — not nearly as favorable to the man a few feet away on stage. He said the former president didn’t attempt to cut off federal funding for Planned Parenthood or turn Medicare into a voucher system.

Though the questions were from undecided voters inside the hall — in a deeply Democratic state — the audience that mattered most watched on television and was counted in the tens of millions. Crucially important: viewers in the nine battlegrounds where the race is likely to be settled.

The final debate, next Monday in Florida, will be devoted to foreign policy.

Opinion polls made the race a close one, with Obama leading in some national surveys and Romney in others. Despite the Republican’s clear gains in surveys in recent days, the president led in several polls of Wisconsin and Ohio, two key Midwestern battlegrounds where Romney and running mate Paul Ryan are campaigning heavily.

Barring a last-minute shift in the campaign, Obama is on course to win states and the District of Columbia that account for 237 of the 270 electoral votes needed for victory. The same is true for Romney in states with 191 electoral votes.

The remaining 110 electoral votes are divided among the hotly contested battleground states of Florida (29), North Carolina (15), Virginia (13) New Hampshire (4), Iowa (6), Colorado (9), Nevada (6), Ohio (18) and Wisconsin (10).

Obama has campaigned in the past several days by accusing Romney of running away from some of the conservative positions he took for tax cuts and against abortion earlier in the year when he was trying to win the Republican nomination.

“Maybe you’re wondering what to believe about Mitt Romney,” says one ad, designed to remind voters of the Republican’s strong opposition to abortion except in cases of rape, incest or when the life of the mother is at stake.

Romney countered by stressing both in person and through his television advertising the slow pace of the economic recovery, which has left growth sluggish and unemployment high throughout Obama’s term. Joblessness recently declined to 7.8 percent, dropping below 8 percent for the first time since the president took office.

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Associated Press writers Julie Pace in New York, Julie Carr Smyth in Columbus, Ohio, and Matthew Lee in Lima, Peru, contributed to this story. Espo reported from Washington.

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  1. These debates are great.  They bring out the reality of the the people who wan to be president and what they offer in their views and suggestions for the future of America.  With NO teleprompters, they Both have to speak from within themselves.
    These debates also get Americans talking and create an interest that may not have appeared to them before.  Also, the debates can make or break a candidate.  May Romney be the Next President.

      1. oh please….Obama just keeps yammering on about the past, to the backdrop of his painfully abysmal record

        FAIL

        1. Are we going to be ignorant fools and pretend that Obama walked into the White House with a clean slate? Do you have any intellectual honesty? 

        2. Kind of sickening isn’t it….time for the President and the simple mindset to stop blaming the Bush administration…..this President has a loud bark but no bite…..

          1. If you watched the debate you saw that Romney blamed the Bush administration. The President correctly responded that he would be worse than Bush.

          2. The President referenced the previous administration’s economy and blamed the hand he was dealt for his failures and lack of fulfilling his promises over the last 4 years…..time for this President to start being responsible for his own administration’s failures…..

          3. so, you don’t think  that past president’s policies carry over to the next president and affects  the country for more than the four to eight years that a president is in office? 

    1. Watched just a bit of it.  I like the format.  Just waiting for the R zealots to bring up teleprompters and how the President can’t speak without one.  Of course, he’s often been doing that for some time.  They just get lazy, run out of gripes, and shoot off tired one-liners. 

  2. Ouch……… Great question….Mr Robme how do you distinguish yourself from your predecessor (Mr. Twig) who brought about all the failures we now are facing???? LOL! Answer stammer, stumble and fail.

    1. “We’re different because… we’re in a different time and I have this 5 point plan”

      lol, smooth Romney, real smooth. 

        1. And Obama has a two point plan.  1.  Do nothing.  2. RAISE TAXES BY A TRILLION DOLLARS (even Biden said it!)

      1. The one they changed it to is good.  You know something a little less partisan.  They must have felt the same way, as they did (to their credit) change it.  The debate was close.  The headline should have reflected that.

    1.  They changed it over night.  Even one of their editors must have realized that being that partisan on what is supposed to be a news story was over the top.

  3. Who won the Debate?

    Well we know who lost, we did, the American People. This debate was nothing but interruption after interruption  with mostly blown out exaggerations and lies from both parties. The moderator didn’t have any control…AGAIN!

    Right now they are asking Obama how he plans to create jobs. This answer gets better every time I hear it.

    1. I’m not on your side often but you are 100% right.It could’ve been done so much better.Crowley major fail.
      There was a great show on last year called Intelligence Squared Debate.Properly run and what a good example of public policy TV should be.Of course it’s off the air now.Hope it comes back.

  4. The President is speaking of and relying on his record for the last four years and his record speaks clearly…..he has failed in so many of his promises that at this point it’s not even worth continuing to debate his failures…..he has spoken multiple times about lower taxes and better wages for the middle class…..I see no tax breaks or increases in my salary because of anything this President has done…..gas prices, food prices and energy costs are higher now than 4 years ago so basically we are paying more, making less and getting no breaks in taxes as President Obama claims…..and, Mr. Obama just outright lied about his Rose Garden speech re: the Libyan attack….he says he called it a “terrorist” attack….multiple resources see him quoting the attack as being “outrageous” and “shocking”…..Mr. Romney called him out and the lie……job losses, higher numbers of people out of work and on food stamps, higher gas and oil prices and more for electricity and other energy costs….time for a change folks….

    1. You have had your taxes lowered — just because you ignore that fact, doesn’t make it suddenly disappear. 

      You’re also lying about the Rose Garden speech. The moderator even said they had the transcript and that he labeled it an act of terror. 

      All those job losses and increases in food stamps are the result of failures from the previous administration. Things are improving but slowly. You don’t jump back from a recession immediately. Obviously.

      1. I don’t know where you work, or if you do, but we have not seen taxes lowered. What has been done is that you may see a small amount more in your weekly pay, but at the end of the year you owe, or break even, when you used to get a small return.
        All that’s been done is a shift. Basically taking what small return you may have received and dividing it up in your paycheck every week. That’s not lowering taxes, it’s more redistributing.
        If you’re making $135K per year, you see about $25-$30 more per week in your check if you’re claiming zero all year. You had better be putting that extra into an account to help what you will have to pay in at the end of the year, and it will not cover what you owe.

          1. I refer back to Ryan’s comment regarding fact checkers at the convention. Nasty lil insignificant things those facts aren’t they.

          2. Yep, facts like $4 gallon gas prices, near double digit unemployment, and the majority of the country believing that this administration is taking our country in the WRONG direction. Those pesky facts. You want four more years of this crap-sandwich to nibble on? I think a lot more Americans do NOT. 

          3. $4 gallon gas prices are backlash from the Bush administration’s reckless disregard for safety, letting their campaign donor Haliburton play odds with Deepwater Horizon. Unemployment rates are at 7.8%. It’s ok I know your double digit remark is good theater, it’s just not true. As far as your comment about what most Americans think, YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME; and I wonder what qualifies you to speak for the rest of the country too.

          4. So what exactly is Obama responsible for anyway? Anything at all?
            Gas prices? Trillions in deficit? Unemployment? Higher taxes? Lack of respect from other countries?
            Has this guy sat in the White House for (4) years and done nothing except improve this country? Anything bad is someone else’s fault?
            Perhaps Obama should also think before he has someone like Bill Clinton running ads calling Romney a liar. Really? Clinton calling someone else a liar? Mr. lie to a grand jury and the American people? What a joke.
            This whole administration is a joke, from Obama to Smiley Biden, to trailer park trash Hillary.
            I hope they show statistics showing what Obama gets for votes from the military, because he will get a handful from the homosexuals and that’s it. I’ve never seen a Commander in Chief with so little respect.

          5. Take a look at Clinton when he was getting ‘hummer’s’ from Monica on Air Force 1, while talking to Hillary on the phone no less, and at the same time slaming the Naval Aviation community for Tailhook.  If there was ever a President that called for so little respect it had to be Slick Willie.

          6. Bush had a lower approval rating. As for what he has accomplished, that’s easy.
            Putting a floor in a free-falling economy
            Saving millions of jobs through saving the auto industry, stimulus, and other job-centric policies
            Restoring America’s standing in the world community as a leader
            Beginning to provide healthcare for millions that had fallen through the cracks and were otherwise burdening the system
            Getting us out of a needless war for oil
            Providing a comprehensive exit strategy for Afghanistan

          7. You have to be kidding?
            You want more of the same then go ahead and waste your vote. That will guarantee another (4) years of this BS.
            If Romney is elected, it would instantly boost the economy. No company is going to spend money and expand while Obama is in office, and most are waiting to see what happens before they spend any money.

          8. It’s not untrue.
            It’s my taxes and I pay them, so I think that I know first hand. My deductions haven’t changed for (8) years and the past (3) I’ve had to pay in at the end of the year.
            I would say that $135K is middle income. No doubt if you’re making 30K you’re probably making out like a bandit, but Obama is not helping middle class what so ever.
            He is helping the class that will vote for him.

          9. Only 17% of households and 7% of individuals make over 100,000k a year. 

            And who is making out like a bandit? Romney pays a lower effective rate than most middle class Americans.

          10. He paid $3 million in taxes last year. How much should one person have to pay anyway when 47% pay nothing?
            We are working steadily towards those who pay nothing outnumbering those who pay for everyone. When that finally happens (if it hasn’t already) there will be no recovering this economy.

          11. Quit being ignorant. We all pay taxes. If you’re going to malign have the country at least be correct about it. 47% don’t pay federal income taxes. That doesn’t mean they don’t pay payroll taxes or state income taxes. Second, why do you think it’s fair that a guy like Romney makes 20 million and yet pays a lower rate than a teacher might for example? We’d likely have better jobs and a better economy if these wasn’t such this pervasive greed. Where instead of increasing profits more and more, people would actually invest in this country…you know….not hide it overseas as to avoid taxation.

          12.  I’m not buying the 47% number when it’s used by a 1%er at $50K a plate.To collect $50 in taxes would be more problematic and expensive than the amount recovered.That said,I’m with you that healthy people can volunteer or do something to improve their communities if they’re getting a benefit(which in most cases,they’ve paid into the system at some points)
            Nobody wants to address the real problem.We have millions of young people draining the SSDI system on some kind of fake mental disability.If every one of them was taken off the rolls and made to repay-budget balanced!

          13.  So someone that is making $2 for every $9 you make is “making out like a bandit”?I would say if you’re making $135K,anyone making $30K would take the extra $105K and pay taxes on it without a problem.

          14. As far as contributing to this country goes, yes they make out like a bandit. Nobody should get the free ride that 47% of people are getting. Everyone should have to contribute something. Even if there was a minimum of maybe even $50, can you imagine what that would do? Nobody likes to pay taxes and the people who pay nothing use the majority of the services.

    2. I own a few companies and this is what some of my leaders have heard from me.

      We need to increase sales
      We need to increase production
      We need to put together a better plan to retain employees

      Please put together a plan and get back to me.

      If anyone of my leaders came to me and told me their plan was to HOPE and things would CHANGE they would be fired. 

      1. How did that work for ya?’  The so called businessmen I have encountered recently weren’t smart enough to retain a high percentage of profit without backstabbing employees who were doing their jobs for their whole working lives.

      2. By the same token, which is more likely to motivate you to expand your businesses, lower taxes on your year end profit or more customers standing at your door asking for your product?  I’m in senior finance of a very large national company and when we talk expansion income taxes never ever come up.  Property taxes do (a local issue, not national), energy costs do (local & national) and most important of all, is there sufficient demand for the product.  Republicans, presumably the party of business, commonly ignores that fact in favor of promoting tax cuts.

      3. Yeah, and did Bush’s Great Recession work out for you Bush Fan?  Hmmm, interesting that Bush isn’t out campaigning for the Mitt Twit.  If the man for which you are such a fan is so fan-worthy, how come they don’t dare to have him out there on the campaign trail?

      4. Romney’s “plan” is to lay off as many public employees as possible, slash benefits to disabled people, reduce unemployment benefits, and slash social programs in general.

        In practical terms, this means:

        *more unemployed people (who have little money to spend in the local commuinity on your goods or services)

        *less money in the hands of disabled people and others who are impoverished (who will be buying less from you any others in the community)

        Romney’s plan is to SHRINK demand by funneling more and more money away from Main Street and into the hands of the 1%. This puts your business at risk of failure from lack of demand.

        It means that you will have to lay off workers in an attempt to survive. They will no longer be able to buy from you, either. Your business will see even less demand. You could go bankrupt and become one of the 47% Romney despises.

      5. You better Fire the Whole Republican Party!

        They want to Reduce Taxes on Business with the “HOPE” that it will make a differance!

        The Whole Idea of Reduceing Taxes on Business to Increase JOBS is a “GRIM “Fairy Tale!

      1. BTW, you’re lying.

        “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.  Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.  We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act.  And make no mistake, justice will be done.”

        1. Just more words from the campaigner in chief.    This time trying to cover up the attempted cover up.

          1. The claim was that he didn’t admit it was an act of terror and that was a lie. So you can change the subject all you want, but it was still a lie. 

          2. They have been playing a tape of the rose garden speech on TV.  You might want to watch it.  You are wrong.

          3.  Feel free to share facts when they’re from a legitimate news source.Fox is the American Pravda.

          4. Sorry Precious, Foxnews and facts do not belong in the same sentence. It’s a misnomer. You know…..like compassionate conservatism.

          5. Hmm, state that this attack was the result of a movie six times during a speech, as well as have your administration do the same for a 10 days after it happened. Have the VP say they didn’t know anything other than what their “intelligence” told them, then say he called it a terrorist attack the day after. So, please tell me, just when was he lying?

          6. That’s what they knew at the time. You think a terrorist attack happens and immediately we know all the details? Come on. You guys are just politicizing the attack because you have an awful candidate he can’t hack it on the positions.

          7. The intelligence community has testified under oath that they knew it was a planned terrorist attack and that they knew there was no protests outside the embassy. Within 24 hours.

            That leaves one of three conclusions.  One, Obama asked for and received this information and chose to ignore it and attempt a cover up for political reasons.  Or two, he never even asked for an intelligence briefing.  Or three, his staff didn’t get the information or choose to ignore it and gave incorrect information to Obama.  FOR TEN PLUS DAYS.

            So which is it?  Did the president LIE to the American public for political reasons or is he incompetent?  Since he chose his staff if they failed it shows his incompetence for the job of president as well.

          8. You Guys? really? Just what is it? Did the pres know it was an terrorist attack when it happened?
             Then that is what he knew at the time. So why the weeks following was it caused by a movie. Your logic makes no sense at all. Are you really that blinded by a man? As for politicizing, thats a joke. Since the pres knew it was a terroist attack on day one, but put out mis-information for weeks after, sure sounds like a political act to me. Guess he didn’t need another failure this close to the election.

          9. Your bigoted mindset is made very clear by your answer. The facts regarding this are available on many venues, You seem incapable of seperating truth from rhetoric.

          10. No, assuming anyone that disagrees with you relies on fox news only for their information is. So is calling me “you guys” It’s clear you prefer to remain blinded to reality, which is disheartening, however recent polls are indicating that you belong in the minority, I find hope in that.
             You may repy in any manner you wish, I will not waste another moment of time responding.
             Have a nice day, my friend.

          11.   Read your own transcript.  Obama made a generic statement about terror
            and never once directly called the attack in Libya a terrorist act.  He
            had ambassador Rice go on national TV and LIE to the American public. 
            He personally went on the view and lied.  He went before the UN and lied
            again, blaming the attack on a non-existent protest and a YouTube
            video. 

          12. Oh wow! I see you woke up and found your right wing talking points alright :) Good job little parrot.

          13. Nice job avoiding the issue. It proves you don’t have facts on your side and that’s why you have to obsess over the word “Dude”.

          14. Like I care what you think about how something sounds. You don’t have any intellectual honesty judging from your posts. You were wrong and you can’t admit it and now you’re desperately trying to divert attention.

          15. You challenging someone else on “intellectual honesty”.

            Psychological projection. You could be a poster child.

          16. On Sept. 25, the president himself declined to call the attack an act of terrorism during an interview with “The View,” saying that an investigation was still ongoing.

          17. True, but the fact is Obama claimed he called the Libya attack specifically a terrorist attack the day after Sept. 11 in the Rose Garden…..he did not call it a terrorist attack and multiple transcripts confirm this……Ms. Crowley also wrongly affirmed the President’s claim and is now recalling her statement stating she was wrong…..those pesky facts again…..

          18. what do you expect from a moderator from the Communist News Network? it was a partisan setup, play by their rules, let Rush moderate the next debate

          19. Doesn’t matter it wasn’t the claim. He called it an act of terror in the rose garden. Romney was lying when he said otherwise. You and other commenters aren’t be honest here either. 

          20.  Read your own transcript.  Obama made a generic statement about terror and never once directly called the attack in Libya a terrorist act.  He had ambassador Rice go on national TV and LIE to the American public.  He personally went on the view and lied.  He went before the UN and lied again, blaming the attack on a non-existent protest and a YouTube video. 

        2. Terror is a psychological impact.  A terrorist attack is something real.  The President spinning his words.

      2. Oh, I did apparently omit the fact that the President specifically called the Libya attack outrageous, shocking and “terrible”……never did he on the day after refer to the specific act as being terror…..

        1. Are you sure about that ??  I thought he referred to his Vegas jaunt as “outrageous, shocking and terrible” when they told him how little money he raised.

        2. Before you make up statements, check the “FACTS”… President Obama mentioned “Terror”, the day after the incident in his speech, no matter what Faux News, and Rush said…

      3. Pat LaMarsh from the pulse writes for the huffington post so you know that alone would make it the most liberal/green newspaper in the World..

    3. Gas price peaked out at $4.12 ave.  under Dubya in 2008. We also lost 2.9 million jobs during his term.  Just how long do you think it should take to recover from that?  Those jobs will never be back and if they did, there just isn’t the skilled labor left to do them.  Romney and his buddies are directlt responsible for that and now you say he is the big savior of the middle class.  That is putting the fox in the henhouse!

    4. Hmmmm….As to your latest list of FAKE-News/Rush Limpmind talking points:  1) Obama has reduced taxes for 95% of all working families.  Much as you don’t like it, it is true.  2) We are drilling more now than we ever have, and natural gas production is way up along with renewables.  Conservation is also way up.  Gas prices were down early on in the BUSH GREAT RECESSION because people had pulled back on buying gas.  Gas was 4 bucks a gallon under Bush, and you said NOTHING.  The President doesn’t control gas prices, THE MARKET DOES, and your oil company CEO’s are doing great making their BILLIONS so you should be overjoyed since you folks smooch your corporate masters’ toenails by the minute.  Also, much of the price has to do with market speculation which you love, and also due to increased use in China and India.  So kindly get real.  3) Both the day after and again the next day he called it an act of terror.  He also referred to it as a brutal and viscious crime and said that those responsible would be brought to justice.  Your PHONY LIAR held a press conference to try to score political points before he even had the facts of what happened.  Mitt Twit RobMe is disgusting.  So, nice try with your phony TeaPublican FAKE-News talking points, but Mitt Twit got SPANKED HARD in the debate, and now you need to deal with it.

      1. You might have better luck getting your points across,even though they are false,if you would can it with the insults,there is nothing wrong with having different opinions,but the childish name calling gets old quick. the same advice holds true for all sides,degrading your opponent with rude demeaning names is what people do when they cannot produce facts to support their argument. prove me wrong,i dare you.

  5. Robme says his State of MA has good record on gun control………. sure,  just don’t get caught driving through the state with a handgun without the proper paperwork from the State of MA or face a mandatory 1 year in jail.

    1.  That gun control law is a joke.In one year only 7% were even sentenced separately to that year.Fewer than that served the full year.

  6. Ask  Mr. Robme why did you run like a coward, once you got your draft deferment. You ran to France and then came back to rally in favor of the war once you were sure that your draft number was high enough to not get drafted. Are you just a typical Republican chicken-hawk?

      1. Romney got 4 deferals from the Vietnam War because of his hazardous missionary work in the south of France. 

        Obama was not old enough to serve in the war.

        1. Wartime doesn’t solely dictate whether someone can serve in the military…..my response was in response to another speaking to Mr. Romney’s apparent lack of military service…..

        2. obama could have joined the military and served in the first iraq war,if wartime service matters that much to you.You must certainly have voted for John Mccain last time i guess…….

    1. Don’t forget while he was in Europe dodging the draft, he killed a lady with his car while speeding 40 mph over the speed limit.  What was his punishment?  He paid a fine and ran back to the US.   
      Google is wonderful thing, Romeny can’t hide from his killing days.

    1. Obama will continue to represent 100% of the American people instead of pandering to the 1% and denigrating half of them. 

      1. Well . . . except for his rich buddies who happen to start solar panel manufacturing companies, with 100’s of millions of our dollars.  Yeah, Barry sure has done a good job pandering to THOSE 1%’ers, hasn’t he.  What am I saying ??  I’m sure they were all poor business dudes who started those companies . . . and, consequently, bankrupted them (us).

    2. God forbid anyone “pander” to people who pay sales tax, payroll tax, and excise tax, but don’t pay income tax, like people in the categories below–

      Low income. There’s no income tax if your income falls below a certain threshold. For a family of four, that threshold was $26,400 last year.

      Elderly. Some Social Security payments are not taxed as income. The elderly also get an extra standard deduction that lowers their taxes, in some cases to zero.

      Working poor and children. These include the earned income tax credit, the child tax credit, and the child care tax credit. Because of these special benefits, a family of four (two parents, two children) earning up to $45,775 last year would not have had to pay income taxes, primarily because of special credits for children.

      People who take itemized deductions, tax credits for education, and the income tax exemptions for everything from disability payments to interest on municipal bonds.

      http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/09/18/161337343/the-47-percent-in-one-graphic

    3. Romney will be 100% against the 47% , and represent the 1 %!

      What he said when he thought nobody was watching is the truth!

      All else is a Carnival ACT!

  7. Mitt won hands down., and I don’t need a commentator to tell me what was said. Obamas fast and furious giving guns to Mexican drug cartels to kill US boarder patrol agents, Diplomats dying because Obama denied security to them, 10 millon unemployed, 4 dollars a gallon gas and being weak on China. 4 years to get that done is enough for me. Mitt for Pres.

    1. He hides too much.  Obama never had anything to begin with. It is likely the greatest contrast we have yet seen in any presidential campaign.  Barack started on the streets. Even in some respect the same town as Mitt. But their economic means is a different breed altogether. Sure, Mitt made $100’s of millions and still, Barack accomplished something more.  

      1. Obama never graduated college, Prove me wrong. Proof on any Obama claims please.. If he has done so much why is the proof  of it off limits??.. No one remembers him at college. If I went to school with someone who became president I would remember. he is a rouge, nothing he says is real.. so he finds weak followers who never question him.

          1. Asking for proof of something that’s already been thoroughly documented because you refuse to accept the proof that’s already been presented. At that point, it’s just an absurd conspiracy theory.

          2. We know Obama can read.  A teleprompter at least.    And we know he can write fiction.  For liberals these are all the qualifications needed to be president.

        1. Oh yeah? Your guy is so insecure he “loves Big Bird”

          He is so insecure, he couldn’t exist without a swiss bank account.

          He is so insecure he stands in front of an audience during a debate and never yields.

          Will the gentleman yield? No! He staggers for more than the allotted time. Then, goes off on answers to his own questions? 

          I think if Obama had simply put the energizer bunny on the floor Romney would have jumped in Candy’s lap.

          Please. I’m sure things will be different in Boca next Monday. 

          For now, to be fair it is a tie. 

          The president was dignified and certainly hurt by the attacks in Libya.

          Ryan lacks every sense of diplomacy to handle these situations, and neither has the experience this administration has in dealing with foreign matters.

          Biden knocked Ryans socks off.

          1. Good luck with that argument. The name of the president is Barrack Hussein Obama. Think about it. Hope you sleep well with that guy in the White House.
            Its like puting the fox in the chicken coup.

        2. “Obama never graduated college, Prove me wrong.”
          They don’t let college drop outs write for the “Harvard Review”!!!!

          Your Tin Foil has come unraveled!

          LOL!

      2. His name tells the story. (Barrack Hussein Obama) Its time we got the fox out of the chicken coup. 

    2. We need not waste our time arguing with these Obama a## wipes.  Mitt Romney will win the election.  We can just sit back and watch the left come alive  All of a sudden the left will be concerned for the homeless again, we will see little red flags on people lawns and of course they’ll be driving around in their cars with 101 bumper stickers on what a horrible state the country is in.  

      Ahhh, liberals have become so predictable.

    3. The Mitt Twit got SPANKED and you know it.  You can put down your glass of FAKE-News / Rush Limpmind delusion juice.

    4. If he did, which I seriously doubt, the American people now believe that his name Barrack Hussein Obama probably tells the entire story of his beliefs.

    5. And the dishes Ryan was washing at the Ohio soup kitchen were truly dirty too. Just stay tuned into Fox. I’m sure Lush and company will confirm.

  8.  Of course he did. All he has to do is say if you are better off then you were 4 years ago, vote for Barry Hussein . If you want to better your life, vote for Mitt.

    Pretty Simple.

    1. If you’re a member of the 1% and a sociopath, vote for Mitt Romney. If you’re a member of the 99% and a responsible American and you want to better your life, vote for Obama.

      Pretty simple.

      1. Ahh !!  It’s much clearer when you put it that way.  I see you have quite a command of economic realities, here.

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  9. Mitt Romney sure did win this debate.  I was very disgusted that whenever Mitt Romney REALLY put President Obama on the hot seat, Obama got very heated, VERY defensive and Candy Crowley swooped in to stop the EVIL Republican from actually you know telling the truth.  

      1. Even Candy Crowley has now come out and admitted that she had her facts wrong.  Michael Moore said it a long time ago, “We better get used to the idea of saying PRESIDENT Romney.”

  10. When Mitt got that “binder full of women” — didn’t that sound a bit like affirmative action? Turning down candidates because they were men and seeking out diversity?

    When Ryan talked about Medicare and how they’d transition benefits away from the wealthy, so the wealthy would pay more into the system, but get less out and the poor would pay less and get more — didn’t that sound like redistribution of wealth?

    Republicans scream bloody murder about socialism and Marxism constantly and yet not a peep when Romney/Ryan does it. You have to wonder why that is. Why is it that when these things come from Obama or liberals we have to “take our country back”, but then it is fine when a Republican holds the exact same position? Makes it seem like these criticisms aren’t based in principles, but come out of pure disdain. 

    1. RobMe is a CORPORATE SOCIALIST.  He wants to re-distribute the nation’s wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich so they can hide it in the Cayman Islands.

      1. Yeah, but did you notice that he defended with —“Obama” has a pension with Mutual Funds in foriegn investments — So to him it must be ok for “”everyone”” to cheat the system by hiding in US tax exempt banks!

        If he had said he would work on “eliminating” that loophole he would be presidential material.

        He didn’t –he defended the action by deferring to the presidents portfolio.

        Liars and cheats reveal  more by what they DONT say!

        Romney is a Fraud!

        1. following the tax laws is not cheating,however,when you criticize someone for doing the very same thing you do,makes you look like a,whats that word……hipo…hypo…..hippo..oh,yeah,hypocrite. btw, why put obama in qoutations?

          1.    There is a certain Moral Obligation to this Country in the position of President. That includes the economic well being  of the country. He who is Morally Bankrupt in the use of the Tax Code to profit to his advantage at the cost of the rest of the Tax Payers is in NO position to ethically decide the future laws and code of such! Romney is NOT morally Ethical to be the President of this Country.

            You speak of Apples and Oranges, 

            There is a significant difference between owning a Mutual Fund that may in Part take advantage of Cayman accounts to hide money from the US taxes and being the CEO of a company that “Controls the Direction” of such Action.,

             George Washington Slept in Tents with the Revolutionary War Troops.

            Mitt Romney Sleeps on a Mattress stuffed with his Foriegn Bank Account Statements!

             

          2. following the law is not ethically wrong.both men have offshore investments,nuff said. if that makes romney unfit,i guess obama is also. Putting George washington in was a nice touch,considering the tab is in for the last 4 years for michele and barak is in for their dog walker,flights from chicago for a personal trainer multiple vacations,etc., it is a little over a billion dollars.more than England spent on the royal family.In the same tent indeed.

          3. How do you know that he followed the law!

            The Big Deal about his Tax Records are that they would reveal wether or not he took the Bush Amnesty Plan for people hiding money overseas!

            Absent the records a reasonable person could conclude that he most probably did!

          4. sorry for the delay ,but i had to work all day to support my family  and a few others, 47%,by the last count. if there was any thing suspect about romney’s tax returns the IRS would have crucified him by now,just like me and you.being the big fish that he is ,the IRS would have been all over it.I went through their process for $800 in 1998.turned out they owed me but the time for me to get it had expired,DLBRT

          5. George Bush gave Amnesty for Tax Cheats during the period in question!

            The IRS would not prosecute someone who turn themself in!

            BTW, I sat at home today !!!  Calculating my Social Security COLA Raise!!!

            Thanks! Keep up the good work!!!

            LOL

        2. no … it ‘s you that’s a fraud.. anytime people make comments that are so far off base and they know it .. that’s fraud.. and that’s what you just did.. there is absolutely nothing illegal about what either Obama or Romney are doing with their investments.. neither is cheating or hiding anything .. you should take that comment back publically and acknowledge that you don’t have a clue.. you further should be banned from commenting on any public forum about something as important as this election, until you have prove that you know the difference between an opinion and actual facts…. the only liar and cheat in your comment is you…bring it up a notch…

          1. Ok! I take it Back!

            I don’t “know” that he is a fraud!

            I ” believe” that he is a fraudulent, money grubbing,  lying,  cheating, spoiled , Inheritance Baby!

            LOL

          2. Check out reality!

            You know those “Binders” of women that Romney Claims to have gone out and solicited?

            It turns out that a bipartisan womens group had gone out and collected all those resumes and presented them to BOTH parties PRIOR to the election for the winner to use as a data base for their cabinette!

            Romneys Claim is FALSE!

            Just Like Romney!

    2. Thats NOT Affirmative Action!

      Thats Mitt The Twitt , ” Political Action”  —looking for womens votes!

      ” Republicans scream bloody murder about socialism and Marxism constantly and yet not a peep when Romney/Ryan does it. You have to wonder why that is. ”

      There is NO Wonder!

      The Silence says it all!

      They know exactly what it is , A Lie!

      They are “OK” with Lies when it suits their need!

  11.  He had total control of the House and Senate for the first 2 years!

    Any CEO that makes promises to take the job doesn’t continue to blame the other guy. Obama I bet is a nice guy to go carp fishing with but to run the USA from Air Force 1 and the oval office. C’Mon MAN’

    1. The true test of how trustworthy and responsible a man is, can be directly related to how he keeps his word and promises……this President has not come close to doing the job related things promised 4 years ago as then Candidate Obama…..time for a change…..

      1. lol, like you voted for him in the first place.

        And what does it say about your character that you’re just running around here telling lie after lie?

          1. Which ones? 

            And were congressional Republicans trying to make the situation better in good faith? Answer to that is no. They stated their number one goal wasn’t to help the economy or jobs, it was to see the President fail. 

    2. “He had total control of the House and Senate for the first 2 years!”

      No, he didn’t. He lacked a fillibuster-proof majority, and a good chunk of the Democrats in Congress were conservative Blue Dog Democrats. Yet another falsehood about Obama that needs to stop being repeated. 

      1.  Great and overlooked point.A conservative D like Ben Nelson is even slimier than a conservative R.At least we know the R is out to screw us.Nelson and his gang get to play the bipartisanship card and ruin the country.

    3. You can go back to the days of Bush with Willard, everyone else is moving forward.  Romney killed a lady with his car, sorry he is done. ;]

      1. Right….a drunken driver crossed the center and hit the car Mr. Romney was driving….sort of like Ted Kennedy and a bridge in Mass…..oh, that’s right….Mr. Kennedy was the faulty driver then…..

        1. Oh!  Now I got it!  Sort of  like when Laura Bush killed that girl in Texas while running a stop sign.

          1.  And GWB was just lucky he didn’t kill anyone with his Maine DUI.Funny how nobody cared about that.

        2. Get off  Willard’s Wiki.  No drunk driver, Romney ran into a pole on a clear day at high speeds.
          He could dodge the draft but not a stationary pole.  :}

    4. No President “EVER”  has had total control of the House and Senate!

      All they have is control of the Presidency and the Veto Pen!

      You don’t even understand the concept of the division of power in the US Constitution!!!!!!!!!!!

      It’s no wonder you pick losers !

      1. with majorities in both the house and senate,large majorities, the democrat party certainly was in control of the legislative and executive branches of  our gov’t. for the first two years.

  12. I will part the waters, give everyone a chevy volt that gets a remarkable 17 miles per gallon, I will bow down to all foreign leaders. I have people on standbye to tuck you into bed at night and make your coffee in the morning. Under my order they will also put hidden cams into your house. to make sure you are eating right and not using to much electricty. I am Obama and approve the comment

    1.  If you’re going ahead with the hidden cams,they still wouldn’t be as illegal as Bob McDonnell’s vaginal ultrasounds.Oh wait,that’s different to all the old white male busybodies.

  13. They need to put a switch on the microphones.  When the time is up the microphone goes dead.  And a moderator who follows the agreed upon rules would be nice.  Especially when giving only one side, Obama, a rebuttal.  

      1. huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/candy-crowley-mitt-romney-debate_n_1972236.html

         “Crowley decided POTUS deserved 10% more time – Final speaking time per @CNN: 44:04 for Obama; Romney 40:50,” Karl Rove tweeted.

        1.  Another money grab by Rove.Get back to me with correct info by a neutral source.Rove belongs in jail-not out fleecing the sheep.

  14. And WHO picked these questions?  About half revolved around progressive talking points designed to make Obama look good and Romney look bad.  How about more questions requiring real substantial answers?

    1. Why did Romney run out so fast after the debate?   Wow, Willard unraveled before millions and jumped on his private plane before his smell left the room.  They better check Willard for a concussion after being knocked out :}

      1.  More likely he was trying to escape the Obama stench.  Obama was so hot under the coller I’m surprised the shirt didn’t catch fire.

        1. What about Dinesh D’Souza-the liar involved with Obama 2016 who is being kicked out of his evangelical church after being in a hotel room with a woman who was not his wife?No story about THAT!NEVER trust an evangelical ever at any time for any reason!

  15. I just had a Facebook discussion with someone who actually thinks that Obama’s children are being paid to be senior advisors in his administration. 

    How do you rationally discuss politics with someone like that?

  16. Alright, you know Obama won when conservatives are whining about being victimized by the moderator or the questions that were asked :)

      1. Oh go cry a river.  The Mitt Twit got CRUSHED.  And it is because he is a LIAR and PHONY.  Now deal with it.

        1.  I guess you must have been in the kitchen when Obama was speaking. Obama now a big oil and coal guy now and all for small and big business. I guess Obama has evolved again.

        2. You left out rude.  Romney was very rude.  Romney tried to dominate by intimidation rather than substance.  He constantly  interrupted, took WAY more time than was allotted, and yes, he lied.  I thought the moderator took too much crap from Romney.

          1. I was watching the debate where Romney completely fumbled the Libya question, becoming flustered and confused after being caught in a major mistake.  Even Obama said, “Please proceed, Governor,” which allowed Romney to dig himself deeper and deeper.

            Even Charles Krauthammer, arch conservative, said that Obama won the debate.

          2. Well, I was watching the debate when the so called “moderator”, left wing cnn’s Candy Crowley,had to jump into the debate to help obama with getting his spin straight on the murder of Ambassodor Christopher Stevens and three of our fellow Americans in Libya. shameful to say the least.

            Moderator is defined as,what? certainly not to help the contestants win their debate !So, looks like the definition of “moderator” will need to be changed to include the words,”unless a failing liberal political candidate needs help”.

            Check the speaking time that Obama was giving as compared to the speaking time that Gov Romney was giving.just the facts please.

            I too will mention Charles Krauthhammer’s opinion. I heard Mr K  say something to the effect that   Candy Crowley  had no business interjecting herself or her opinion into the candidate’s debate.but in doing so, definitely helped  Obama’s chance of coming out ahead in the debate.

            In closing,it is my opinion that this debate should be considered a default,simply because, it is very obvious that the left wing news organizations will do anything to help get Obama reelected.Good day to you.

        3. I think you might want to deal with the presidents name Barrack Hussein Obama. How do u feel putting the fox in the chicken coup. The people on the other side of the ocean are laughing at our stupidity.

          1. Well I certainly can’t argue with an expert like yourself on the subject of stupidity. I won’t beleager the readers with a recap of the ignorance and racism your comment portrays.

          2. you are wrong Igreen is correct.. a muslim in the white house is not worrying about muslims.. and the folks in other countries are laughing at how stupid our voters are.. anyone with eyes can see that this presidents policies have not worked… that even with a majority he did nothing .. things economically are not one ioda better.. and the foreign policy is a complete disaster.. hard to really argue with the facts.. that’s the reason Obama couldn’t respond .. there is nothing racist about the truth

          3. You are correct, there is nothing racist in the truth. The truth is that Obama is a Protestant Christian. This Muslim hyperboyle is a national disgrace. It ranks right up there with the birther stuff Donald “Numb as a stump” Trump was promoting. As far as foreign policy goes, I traveled abroad for business back in 2008 (before the Bush Depression cost me a good job). My co-workers in Europe cautioned me to claim that I was Canadian not American if questioned while traveling, due to the world’s regard for Americans during that time. Again, you are correct, it’s hard to argue with the facts. President Obama is likely the only person in history to win a Nobel Peace Prize basically for NOT being Dubuyah. Are we better off today? ABSOLUTELY!

          4.  They laugh at us because we worry so much about the wrong things.  They laugh at us because of our hang ups about religion, how we allow ourselves to be enslaved by corporations in the name of “profit”, and how we are so easily influenced by things like “talking points” and “a presidential look”.  I would laugh at us too if it wasn’t so sad.

        4. It all IS very simple.

          1. Romney claims to be a Job Creator.

          2. Romney claims that Tax Reductions for the wealthy spur Economic Growth in the U.S. A and thus Job Creators hire workers.

          3. Bush and Obama Gave the Wealthy about 10 years of Tax Breaks!

          4. Romney is Wealthy.

          5. Romney put his saved money In Foriegn Tax Shelters!

          Sherlock Holmes would be proud of anyone that votes for Obama!

      2. I loved how Obama would try to get the moderator to move forward from uncomfortable statements he either made or that Mitt was making.  He was way too obvious.  Move along now..nothing to see here folks….

      3. he even gave candy the ok to butt in, the moderator is supposed to be netrual. and obama did lie even after lybia said it was terroist attack he blamed a video what a joke.he is a closet MUSLUM

        1.  Landslide in Utah, that’s about it.  Romney is even in trouble in Arizona, which should be an easy one for him.

      1. She said it was in the transcript. I think it’s odd that people are so comfortable with lying. I think it’s odd that people are comfortable with their candidates lying about something that is so obviously provable to be false.

          1. Agreed and so did many others…..pretty clear that the President spoke directly to the Libya attack on the day after without directly calling it terrorism…..then in general reference to previous attacks and in reference to our military and to any current or future attacks of terror against America he claimed that our resolve would not be shaken….

          2. It’s not the pablum smeared over the grievous ignorance of security concerns shown by the Obama White House, it’s an entire pattern of assisting military insurgents who have now become full blown terrorists. 

            This could be as bad as when the CIA created first the Taliban to oppose the Russian takeover, and then Saddam and the Baath party to run Iraq as a secular state….both of which backfired, and cost us billions in money and many casualties.

          3. What an off base empty analogy. Obama’s foreign policy towers over that of the profit oriented chicken hawks.

          4. From Charlie Wilson’s war to Obama’s deals with various sects and factions in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Somalia and much of Africa and the Mideast  we have ample evidence that the Democrats are as much chicken hawks as Republicans ever were. 

            Think of how much money Obama’s unions make in the war industry; like BIW shipbuilders and Saco Defense…Your big bird is really a fat cat who ate the chicken hawk.

            Obama’s foreign Policy……yup, one for each and every country until something goes wrong as it had then it’s ‘that woman’s fault…call Hillary, not my problem’….

          1.  Israel desperately wants the spigot of US taxpayer $Millions to continue under Rmoney and Eric (Red Sea Naked Party)Cantor-just like they’ve gotten for the last 65 years.WRONG.

          2. I agree with this.  The US should stop foreign aid to any country after 5 years.  Israel, as well as many other countries, have viable economies and we shouldn’t be subsidizing their oppression of another people.  I am incredulous that any foreign country wields as much influence on America as Israel does.  It should be illegal for this to happen.  Make AIPAC illegal!

          3. And what about recovering the 5-7 billion in aid estimated ‘lost’ in IRAQ?  Where is John Kerry or Obama on that point? Or publicly accounting for the aid, especially that given insurgent groups who are now committing acts of mass terrorism and working with acknowledged terrorist groups? 

          4. You are talking about 5-7 billion, how much did they loose. That is a drop in a bucket what we pay in foreign aid (so someone does not say it, including Israel which is a closer allies)

          5.  But did you read the link and check it out?  One big fat lie by Obama.  Had that been Bush, the BDN would have run it on the front page for about a week, spouted off about it on the editorial page for a couple of weeks and had a dozen or so op-eds condemning Bush.  With Obama, ho-hum, what’s the big deal.

          1. No he did not. He said he and he alone was responsible right on the debate stage. That takes guts and it takes leadership something two faced Mitt has never had.
             

      2. It was odd that she did it and now Ms. Crowley is retracting her comment stating it was incorrect….fact check needed for the President & Ms. Crowley…..

        1. Where has the moderator said she was mistaken? She wasn’t mistaken — Obama did indeed call it an act of terror. I saw nothing in the Associated Press story about the moderator that states she admits making a mistake or that she regrets checking the record.

          1. And Bush said there were WMDs in Iraq and we went to war over it, but you’re upset about a phrase. Get some perspective please.

          2. maybe you should bring up what George Washington did at Valley Forge.. last I checked Bush was in  Texas.. and just in case you missed it… there is a guy in the white house .. a muslim.. name Barack Hussien Obama..does that sound like an American to you ? Frankly speaking, I was wondering if La la Land has a full service garage…. ?

          3. Are you that much of a bigot that you think anyone with a foreign sounding name can’t be an American? 

          4. First of all, Paul. He is not a Muslum, he is a Christian. And you know what, incase you have forgotten, this country was founded on the basis of religious freedom, so who gives a crap what his religion is. Your candidate’s campaign since day one has been lie upon lie upon lie.

          5.  That is true.  And Bush was very definitive in that statement.  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/mar/18/usa.iraq

            There is no doubt that he made the claim the Iraq was in possession of WMDs.

            President Obama’s Rose Garden speech is less definitive and so open to interpretation.  Acts of terror are not necessarily the same thing as terrorist attacks. 

          6. And yet we went to war over Bush’s statements. What is the substantive difference between “acts of terror” and “terrorist attacks”? Had Obama called it a terrorist attack specifically, what kind of different position would we be in now? 

          7.  Are you suggesting that if Obama had called it a terrorist attack on the day after that we would now be engaged in war with Libya? 

            The Colorado theater shooting was an act of terror.  The Columbine shootings were an act of terror.  Neither of these, in my mind, constitute terrorist attacks.  September 11 and the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma city were terrorist attacks.  To me, the substantive difference is that the terrorist attacks were attacks on our system of government.  The others were random acts of violence.

          8. Where did I suggest that? I’m simply asking why it matters. Obama said act of terror. So what different position would we be in if he called it a terrorist attack?

            I want to know, because people seem to be going on and on like this is a significant thing and I want to know why it’s significant. What substantive difference does act of terror and terrorist attack make? 

          9. think it through…one is an act by an individual acting alone or a spontaneous event; the other as is becoming obvious is a long planned event by a terrorist group. Why can’t you sep. the act from the group?

          10. You can’t figure out the difference between a ‘terrorist attack’ i.e. by an acknowledged terrorist group…many more new ones created in the last four years; and an act of terror, like those suicide bombings instigated by Obama’s Mid East Liberation army. 

          11. Uh, Romney specifically said that Obama took two weeks to call the attack terrorism. Romney was wrong. In the video, Crowley does not say Romney was right on that. What she says is that Romney messed up with how he presented the issue.

          1. I disagree.  She continually let Romney run over his allotted time as well as letting him interrupt the President time and time again.  In my opinion she was the worst moderator I’ve seen yet!  Maybe they should shut the mikes off 10 seconds after their time is up.  That would put some control back into the proceedings.

          2. Then why did the president get 9% more speaking time? Come on, watch, even you can’t spin this into something it wasn’t.

          3. you must have been watching a different channel.. mabe the La La land channel.. Obama got the most minutes ……………… nit wits are going to have a field say .. watch

          4. What difference do facts make? Ryan already stated that they wasn’t going to let fact checkers dictate this election during the Republican convention.

        1.  She also when on to say Obama was still blaming the movie as the reason for the  attack, which she fact checked as incorrect. Obama never did answer why the additional sixteen guards were not sent. Even CNN pointed that out.

        2. Except the “fact” was incorrect. Obama was talking about terror attacks in general when he mentioned terror. He was not talking about Libya. But I am glad we are now talking about it. The mainstream media will now be forced to report on how this administration tried to conceal a terrorist attack from the American public.

          1.  The mainstream media might actually do that.  Starting on Nov 7th.  Whereupon they will blame republicans for the attempted coverup.

          2. Didn’t mean to step on your post by stating the same thing.  Sorry. 

            Romney and many others are correct that the White House screwed up, and it took several weeks to admit it and get Clinton to take the blame for the security lapse. 

          3. It takes several “weeks” to figure stuff out and that is unacceptable to the chicken hawks in their cowardly politics.

          4. He was talking about “acts of terror” , including the one that just went down in Libya. Romney ate his microphone on that one and the same could be said for that presumptive victory smirk on his condescending face before Crowley dropped the bomb on him.

          5. “Obama was talking about terror attacks in general when he mentioned terror. He was not talking about Libya.”

            Nice try. No cigar. Explain, then, why he spoke at the Rose Garden the day after the attack.

        3. Which she later disavowed. Romney was right, the president was wrong. Watch the video, read the transcript. He did not call the Benghazi murders a terrorist attack. Far from it.

          1. So what, you’re claiming that the vast conspiracy of the “liberal” media quickly doctored video of the president referring to the attack as an act of terror?

        4. 9 out of 10 bloggers seem to agree that the moderator was partisan, espec. in ‘allowing’ Obama to repeatedly call Romney a liar and then refusing to let him respond to this most rude and uncivil charge. 

          And ‘yes’ that defense of Obama on the terrorism charge was automatic, way too automatic!

          An intelligent moderator would have recognized the difference between a ‘act of terror’ and a ‘terrorist attack’. Romney and most of the world know which is which; but the moderator parroted the Obama campaign spin perfectly.

          Polly earned her cracker. 

          1. What IS the difference between an act of terror and a terror attack? The same “difference” there is between a day that was full of sunshine and a day that was void of clouds, NONE!!!!!!!

          2. The video which the White House ‘blamed’ could be an act of terror; but so is a planned attack by one of the Muslim terrorist groups. You really have to stretch Obama’s faux eulogy to state that the White House overnight switched from the attack as a spontaneous reaction to the video, to a planned attack as Romney characterized it. 

            Romney nailed it; and Obama lied or more likely used blanket phrasing to cover every possibility….very generic, very, um, ‘presidential’.

        5. but she got the facts wrong.. obama was not referring to the embassy when he made the statement ………….. read the whole thing.. the moderator later said she was wrong

    1.  Obama clearly won going away.That said,Crowley did a terrible job.We need to have Watson moderate the next debate.Random questions and a setup that shuts off the mics 15 seconds over the allotted time.

    2. Lets be honest. The name “Barrack Hussein Obama”
      certainly tells us his family history and his beliefs. 

      1. A name may tell you part of his history , but define his beliefs? Give me a break!By your flawed reasoning anyone who may have the name Hitler will try to take over the world.Your last name must make you an enviromentalist and vegan if I use your “logic”.

  17. Women need flexibility in the workplace because they need to be able to get home and cook dinner. Thank you Mitt!

  18. AHHH!!!! another Mitt victory!!! Getting easier every time.. 

    Question;  Obama what have you done in the last 4 years. ahhhh!!!! well mitt was working in the private sector and I hear he bought a pair of  shoes that fit him just right. If I am re-elected I will make sure you have a pair of shoes to by taxing the middleclass business man..

  19. Another win for Mitt…Would have been a knock out if the moderator hadn’t stepped in to help Obuma on the Libya stuff..LOL…Still a TKO for Mitt…

    Edited to add the CNN moderator just posted online that she was WRONG on the Libya question and should have shut up…A little late though…Good little liberal soldier that she is..

        1. The video to which you refer is CNN doing CYA for their representative (Crowley) who “moderated” the debate!

          Crowley: “He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take two weeks or so
          for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out,
          you’re correct about that.”Speaking after the debate, Crowley said on
          CNN that Romney was correct “in the main” that the administration was slow to
          acknowledge the deadly assault was a coordinated terrorist
          attack.However, the damage was done.  CNN’s Crowley inappropriately injected herself into the debate and this will forever be the curse for her “moderation” of the debate!

          1. Did or did not Obama say in the Rose Garden the day after the attack that it was an act of terror? Romney said it took Obama two weeks to say that. Romney was incorrect.

            On the issue of whether there was a mob outside of the embassy when the attack occurred, it took Obama two weeks to clarify there was no mob, that it was a straight attack.

            Romney tried to paint Obama as being soft on terrorism. The facts prove him wrong.

          2. In the rose garden BO was talking about terrorism in general (including 9/11.)  He did not refer to the Libyan event then.  In fact, he went out of his way to placate Muslims in his comments.

            Actually, however, before the Libyan attack on the embassy (two days before I believe) a hole was blown in the embassy wall yet the State Department and the White House took no action to strengthen the embassy security.

            BO continued to refrain from calling the embassy attack an act of terrorism (when he appeared on the daily talk show The View) for up to two weeks after the intelligence community had briefed a congressional committee saying it WAS a terrorist act!  One of the ladies on the View specifically asked him about the event attempting to clarify the president’s comments.  BO said that: “We are still investigating it!”

            The debate moderator Crowley knew moments after she interrupted Romney that she was wrong.  She subsequently admitted such (after the debate was off the air!)

            You can be sure we have not heard the last of this.  It will come up again in Monday’s debate and it will not be possible for BO to duck it again.  There are too many facts out now and I am sure the moderator in Monday’s debate will not be protecting BO!

            BO  continues to try to run against anything but his record of the past (nearly) four years!  He even does not to want you to hold him accountable for things he said he would do.  Everything that has gone wrong was someone else’s fault.  As Clint Eastwood said (approximately);  “. . . when someone can’t  do the job, you fire them and bring in someone else.”  It’s time!

          3. Are you seriously going to argue with reality? In the Rose Garden, Obama said: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.”

            How can any reasonable person argue that the first sentence had nothing to do with the following sentences?

            Crowley did not admit to making a mistake when she corroborated Obama’s comments. She said Obama was correct that he referred to the embassy attack as an act of terror immediately, and that Romney was correct in claiming that Obama took about two weeks to confirm that the attack had nothing to do with a riot.

          4. Sir.  You have one interpretation, I have a different one.

            We will see how the truth (hopefully) shakes out next Monday evening!

  20. Well the moderator just said she was wrong and incorrect when she deffended the Rose Garden Speech. Thought I would share that first. All in all this debate was overall horrible and its crazy when you have these 2 guys basically doing everything but fist fighting. Here are facts that I am voting for I have not seen the $3500 or whatever the President said he gave us. And gas is $2.00 more than when he took office. And I am payng more for cost of living than I can ever remember. Romney still has not won my vote but President Obama will not get my vote for sure. I am fact checking everything still.

    1. “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.  Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.  We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act.  And make no mistake, justice will be done.”

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya

      1. Ok I am not disagreeing with the speech but I read the entire thing and he was reffering to 9/11.  He did not say it was a terrorist act for a couple weeks later fact.  He was asked several times and he did not say the words for a couple week later.  I didn’t think it was all smoke and mirrors but fact is that was. 

          1. Crowley, the moderator goofed and admitted it after the cameras were turned off!

            Crowley: “He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take two weeks or so
            for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out,
            you’re correct about that.”

            Speaking after the debate, Crowley said on
            CNN that Romney was correct “in the main” that the administration was slow to
            acknowledge the deadly assault was a coordinated terrorist
            attack.

      2.   Read your own transcript.  Obama made a generic statement about terror
        and never once directly called the attack in Libya a terrorist act.  He
        had ambassador Rice go on national TV and LIE to the American public. 
        He personally went on the view and lied.  He went before the UN and lied
        again, blaming the attack on a non-existent protest and a YouTube
        video. 

      1. Less taxes not my words President Obama said it.  I have not seen it.  And yes he can allow more drilling in areas but he is not.  Another fact.

      2. The President said it himself tonight “Reason why gas prices were so low is because we were heading into a recession”. Okay that makes sense not really. Come on people it is time to set aside politics he is not doing well. I supported Clinton and would again but this guy is not doing it.

        1. Of course it makes sense. The demand went down, so prices had to go down. It’s just like when a store isn’t selling enough of a product, so it lowers the price to get the product out of the door.

          And what do you do if you put your home up for sale and nobody bites? You lower the price.

      3.  He directly controls energy policy and has restricted all new domestic oil drilling. Saying he has no control is a flat out lie. Oil prices are part of the reason Bush fell from grace – you can’t have it BOTH ways.

    2. You are correct!  Crowley, the moderator goofed!

      Crowley: “He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take two weeks or so
      for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out,
      you’re correct about that.”

      Speaking after the debate, Crowley said on
      CNN that Romney was correct “in the main” that the administration was slow to
      acknowledge the deadly assault was a coordinated terrorist
      attack.

  21. Bring my binders of women and take Crowley out ! She thinks she can talk to me like this! Me male, she women. Me male CEO, the alpha job creator of jobs for women, the women Who think they can do the same job as men (@ 30% less pay than men,). …….

  22. One thing I have learned from this is that facts are not Fox Snooze viewers strong points. Now spin on the other hand is something they are great at.

    1. I think that the art of spinning facts and issues is well know by all news agencies and all politically inclined individuals…..there is no line of honor when spinning tactics to manipulate public opinion…..

  23. money, money, money. m o n e y…

    “You’ll get your chance in a moment. I’m still speaking,” the former Massachusetts governor said at one point while Obama was mid-sentence, drawing a gasp from the audience. 

  24. The Mitt Twit, a BORN PHONY AND LIAR, got CRUSHED in this debate.  Obama pounded the snot out of this LIAR and CARDBOARD PHONY who does not even know how to tell the truth.  The Mitt Twit got caught in LIE on top of LIE.  He got called out good and hard on his endless list of FLIP FLOPS between what he has said in the past, even in the very recent past, and what he has been trying to peddle lately.  Mitt Twit RobMe did not dare to run for re-election in Massachusetts because his poll numbers were in the tank, and he knew he was going to get CREAMED.  He does not even dare to campaign in his own home state.  The Mitt Twit hides his money in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda to avoid taxes.  He refuses to release his tax returns.  He was a vulture capitalist who made millions killing American jobs as a “pioneer of outsourcing.”  This guy is completely unfit for the presidency.  He is a FAKE and a LIAR nothing else.

  25. A draw or obama by a tad. The poor pres just doesn’t like anyone taking him to task. And you got to laugh about his answer on calling the attack terrorism. It took almost a month for them to come up with a sentance with the word terror in it. This guy couldn’t bring himself to admit anything and they are trying all gambits to claim otherwise. Only the libbers in Maine fall for it though and still believe the movie made them do it.

  26. Regards the Headline I thought they both were rich and 1%er’s  Which means both for their own class of rich.  Time to put someone from the  middle class in the white house, not worth more than 20,000 dollars.

  27. Pretty soon, it will be time for all the sheep to get in either the Republican’s pen or the Democrat’s pen. They are all going to get sheared anyway, all that remains to be seen is who will get the proceeds from the shearing. BAAAAH! Make sure you all stay in your assigned pens. Do not try to jump out and become free range sheep by voting for someone other than a Republican or a Democrat. BAAAAH!  Anyone know why the other candidates for the presidency were not invited to the debate? Anyone care? lol. BAAAAH!

    1.  Why should Canada get stuck with them?That will just make them hate Americans.And fatty Paul will bankrupt the Canadian health care system after screwing Maine taxpayers.
      At least Mitt’s healthier.

          1. Health Care actually at no cost… If It’s free, it’s for me…
            I’ve been thinking of becoming a Canadian Citizen if
            the Romulan is elected… Maine will be my southern,
            summer home when I retire…

  28. If Romney wins, I could go bankrupt from Medical bills in old age. His voucher system would drain my pockets fast. He’s a major fan of the 1% but doesn’t care one whit about people who could be in need. He’s said that plainly.

  29. I am still laughing over Romney’s promise that middle class Americans won’t have to pay taxes on the INTEREST they earn on their SAVINGS ACCOUNTS!!   HAHAHAHAHAHA!!  I have to laugh because how do we have any  appreciable savings these days???   Big tax break for the middle class!!   HAHAHAHAHA!!

  30. Romney tried his bully tactics and both Obama and the Moderator cut his ‘short and curly’s’ off right at the pass. All he could do was keep asking stupid and idiotic question’s, even after they had been answered, just so he could hear himself speak. And his outright refusal to let Obama explain just what happened, and is still developing, in Libya just showed anyone who actually knows not just how the Intelligence Commuity runs, but Government as a whole, that Romney’s idea of Government is based on Wall St., not the real world. The Government’s responsibility’s and requirement’s are not the same as the Business Community’s. For whatever reason Romney’s people just don’t seem to understand that. What’s really sad is that Ryan has had a front row seat and still doesn’t understand it either. With Bush we had 8 year’s of Wall St running the Government. Are we all so stupid, or desperate, to get back in that boat and finally sink ourselves ? Or are we smart enough to realize that it’s going to take all of us, both business, Government and the public, to get the Country out of theis mess ?

    Oh, and by the way, Maine’s in this as well. Nov 6th isin’t just about the Presidential election’s. Maine has some skin in the game also. 

  31. The name of our president is “Barrack Hussein Obama. Think about it. I certainly do not sleep well thinking about that issue.  Its exactly like putting the fox in chicken coup. 

        1. His name was given to him by his parents – take yer “Secret Muslim” paranoid bigotry and…

          LOL!

  32. Quite frankly I’ve grown tired of these debates.  The candidates say nothing more than they have been saying and it’s insulting to my senses.  They both did an excellent job of telling us nothing is going to be different in Washington after the election. Time for term limits. I think I’ll skip the foreign policy debate since it’s clear to me that neither candidate has one !  I think I’ll go vote today !

    1.  Yet NOBODY has term limits except the President.It should be twelve years total for President and Congress,25 years for Supremes.

      1. they stopped the 12 year thing because it killed rosovelt dont you no history look at any president their hair turns gray after 4 years look at any president before and after they get 4 hours sleep a night

        1.  I “no” history very well.R’s put through term limits b/c they were terrified another D would do as well as FDR(who was a heavy smoker,btw)

  33. Three weeks to the election and three months (roughly) till Citizen Obama. I am sick and tired of four years of lies, smirking, and patronizing every American who actually works for a living. The food stamp President – that is all he has accomplished – making the poorer poorer and deceived them into thinking he cares while he party’s every weekend. Only a fool would vote twice for this clown.

  34. Obama did a great job being critical of Romney even if most of his criticisms were lies.  But as usual, he lacked substance on the issues because he is truly out of touch.  He doesn’t even know whats going on in his own administration of tax cheats and liars.  Romney on the other hand was issues oriented and informed.  He wins debate number 2 hands down.  Obama, one and out!

  35. It has certainly been great theater by the Prez. The problem is, he is dealing with someone who actually has experience and plans. We have had four years of no experience and no plan and Obama still has not learned how to do anything except complain and blame. It must be frustrating for Mitt to have to suffer the ignorant ramblings of someone like Obama trying to explain why taxing the rich and spending more money is still his only idea to achieve a robust economy.

    1. We have seen Obama’s plan.

      Pass a stimulus package that took the US economy from losing 800,000 jobs a month – and -8.9% GDP contraction – to 31 straight months of job growth.

      Obama created 5.2 million jobs – and was opposed by the GOP all the way.

      Obama saved the US auto industry – and now the Liar Rmoney claims it was his idea. 

      Obama extended benefits for the long term unemployed – people that  lost their jobs thanks to Bush and the GOP.

      The GOP took away their jobs – then called them Welfare Queens for taking unemployment.

      Under Obama, oil imports are the lowest in decades.

      Rmoney’s got nothing but a bunch of fairy tales that he can create 12 million jobs with his Secret Economic plan.

      Yessah

  36. is everyone so blind as to believe that this reality tv show known as the presidential election matters?
    what about a third party candidate? are they not allowed to be a part of the debates?
    no, it’s just their way of keeping america divided, red vs blue, democrat vs republican, and neither party helps us.

  37. The moderator was just ok but Obama lied on Libya and didn’t like Mitt bringing up various subjects. The debate was close but no cigar for either of them. 

  38. “Obama accused challenger Mitt Romney of favoring a “one-point plan” to help the rich in America”

    Are you starting to get the impression that the Republican candidate favors continuing and extending money-generating wars for the rich, and that the Democratic candidate is more inclined to support programs that favor the hourly wage earners and small business owners?

    The humble Farmer

    1.  You’re referring to “hourly wage earners and small business owners” like  “Solayndra” and now today – A123 Systems Declares Bankruptcy After $249 Million U.S. Government Grant http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/a123-systems-bankruptcy_n_1970363.html

      Or maybe Obama’s $50,000 a plate dinners with the Hollywood elite? 

      I still remember in 1991/2 a news report (NYTimes I expect) that “fat cat republicans played a round of golf with Pres Bush” with a contribution of $500.00 !!!   I remember ONLY because I said  to myself that I could even do that!  LOL

      1. How many companies went bankrupt thanks to stupid GOP trickle-down economics under Bush?

        Bush bailed out his buddies on Wall Street.

        Obama saved the US auto industry.

        Yessah

      2.  $50K a plate was the cost of Mitt’s famous “47%”dinner where he thought he wouldn’t get caught.

  39. And Romney won the last debate because the moderator was from that ultra-conservative right wing group PBS? Do you even stop to read what you write before posting?

  40. Romney proved once more to be Mr. Zero-Substance, never giving any details. The Republican Party has become a bunch of flim-flam artists. The President was excellent this debate not allowing Romney to bully him and talk over him. The only thing that would have made the debate more poignant is if the President gave Mitt a swift kick in the pants punctuating his disdain for a man who is apparently unable to be truthful on any level.     

  41. I was undecided prior to the debate, but after watching Romney scrap through and dominate this debate with a partisan moderator, I feel he will be America’s best bet to win back respect on the world stage. No more laughing at Obama behind his back by Putin and Karzai and other world leaders. 

    I now understand how Romney earned his fortune and reputation; my skepticism was overcome by his dogged performance last night. He’s now got my vote!

  42. By the way..taking a poll in MAINE asking who won the debate a Democrat or Republican is like asking a drunk if they would prefer water or alchohol with their meal…just saying

  43. Consider that Candy Crowley was obviously in Obama’s corner, and also that CNN had asked for questions to be submitted ahead of time– so perhaps Obama was cramming for the exam for 4 days at the expensive Williamsburg resort, having the questions in hand!

    1. Of course there had to be an underhanded component, it’s inconceivable that a Republican can be trounced on the merits of their own pathetic  platform. 

  44. Obie lied and could not defend his failed record.Only in the liberal mind can you call that winning.

  45. “I think you know better”. 

    This is exactly why this race is turning into a landslide for Romney. We do know better.

      1. Rmoney lied about Obama’s Rose Garden address to the nation concerning the Libyan attacks – and the moderator called him on it.

        The whole world is watching – repeat.

        Yessah

        1. Nossah!

          Romney was correct as the moderator (Crowley from CNN) admitted after the debate.  She “erred” by injecting herself into the debate in an inappropriate way.

          Here is what she said to correct the record.  Of course, the millions who watched the debate did not hear this since it never went on the air.

          Crowley: “He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take two weeks or so
          for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out,
          you’re correct about that.”

          Speaking after the debate, Crowley said on
          CNN that Romney was correct “in the main” that the administration was slow to
          acknowledge the deadly assault was a coordinated terrorist
          attack.

          1. Truth is truth and lies are lies.

            Rmoney got his butt handed to him  –  live  – in front of the whole nation.

            Yessah 

          2. NOSSAH!

            Sir! No matter how many times you repeat your opinion it won’t make it true!

            As I said in an earlier post: you surely did not watch the same debate that I did – or maybe you did watch it though your strange vision and version of reality!

            Goodbye!

          3. I saw Candy Crowley call Mitt – I spent my Vietnam draft years in France on a deferment – Rmoney a liar on national teevee.

            Yessah

          4. liberals never tell the truth they have been indocturated they wont even admit bo is a millionare like romney because bo made his money as a slum lord in his home town the media dont tell that side romney made jobs bo made people suffer just like he is doing to the hole country

          5. Romney is a bully and an egomaniac, Crowley did well to stop his blustering and BS in it’s tracks. 

    1. For someone who purports to be so involved with a church, little that comes from “Rmoney’s” mouth  can be classified as fact, it’s all subterfuge, blather and outright lies.

  46. Kudos to the President, it must be wicked hard to debate someone like Romney who has stood on both sides of every issue. Determining his position on any given day is only possible by interpreting  the last sentence out of his mouth, which may be completely fabricated.

  47. I feel this is the correct interpretation of the ‘acts of terror’ reference and Crowley’s interference in the debate:
    This is from the Memorandum of Understanding governing the Town Hall debate.

    The moderator will not ask follow-up questions or comment on either the questions asked by the audience or the answers of the candidates during the debate or otherwise intervene in the debate except to acknowledge the questioners from the audiences or enforce the time limits, and invite candidate comments during the 2 minute response period.

    Candy Crowley accepted it and then violated it repeatedly, most egregiously when she falsely claimed that Obama had called Benghazi a terrorist attack.

    Not only was she a liar and wrong… but attempting to fact check Romney was so far outside her role in the debate that she was acting like the third candidate.

    Crowley has since admitted that Romney was mostly right>. The usual lib spin machines at Media Matters and Think Progress are trying to salvage this mess by treating Obama’s boilerplate rhetoric about “Acts of Terror” as a statement that this was a terrorist attack. FRONTPAGE, J. Greenfield

    1. What substantive difference would it make had Obama said “terrorist attack” instead of “acts of terror”? How would we be in a better position now? 

      1. An out of control mob reacting to a “video” would be a terrifying experience.
        An Al Quada attack would be a coordinated terrorist attack.

        1. Okay, but why does it matter what Obama called it immediately after it happened? What difference would it make? Would we be in a better position?

          1. It is more an issue of why Obama and his surrogates spent two weeks denying it was a coordinated terrorist attack.

      1.  BOTH sides had problems with Crowley before the debate even started.She did nothing to dispel those concerns.

    2. Very, very well said!

      BO had better put a man hole cover in the seat of his pants for next Monday’s debate for he is definitely going to get a reaming on this!  And you can be sure the moderator will not be covering BO’s backside then!

  48. What I’d love to hear debated in the next trouncing Romney will be getting is; why Republicans should be given another chance at the Presidency after leaving the country in an unquestionable mess the last time they had their lackey “appointed” as president?

    1. I think you are correct!  BO is so arrogant and convinced of his infallibility that he believes he cannot be wrong and the rest of us mortals cannot be right!

      1. if he get’s in again wich i doubt we will soon be subjects instead of civilians pray hard for our future

  49. Well, you can’t say we don’t have contrasting candidates for this election.
    It will be so interesting to see if the voters want to go back, or move forward.

    1. Mrs. Pab is calling you out on that one buddy…..you better be careful on your next trip to Tinkersville….

      1. You know Im fare and balanced, but I do see Romney winning the election, I was right with Mr. LePage, so I will be correct again..

      1. Polls have to be taken with a grain of salt however the overall trends are good indicators.

        1. You guys were screeching all last month that all polls are wrong and that they all have a liberal bias and now suddenly you’ve found one you like so you hold it up like it was sent from God. 

          So ridiculous. 

  50. Romney proves last night that RULES do not apply to those of his social pedigree. With silver spoon in mouth he rose to the occasion and insisted the rules be changed and should not apply during his mindless rants of that a Corporate Utopian America would look like.        

      1. it is who I am and I have no shame in believing as I do, publicly or any other way, so on that point pound sand.

        I believe what used to be the Republican Party has degenerated into a group of extreme right wing corporatists who have no concern for the majority of people of this county, and your boy Mitt just made that point all too clear.  You call it vomit I call it freedom of speech, and I truly don’t care what you or others in your extreme clan think. So spoon feed yourself your own hurl and enjoy.

    1. Strange you should say this about Romney!  Read the book “The Amateur” about BO then review your comment!

    2. bo hates our constitution so he just overrides it, wake up he refuses to deport against constitutiual law. he makes his own again wake up you will be crieing when your rights are striped away through no fualt of your own

    3. do you know bo owns slums in chicago with his preacher budy thats right bo is a slum lord turning the country into a third world

  51. How any reasonable thinking human being could still be in the tank for Obama, observing the most pathetic performance over the past four years, of any president in history is either, A) Termianlly stupid, B) Economicallly illiterate, C) Blinded by their own misguided ideology, D) Intellectually dishonest, or sadly E) All of the above. Please A,B, C , D, when commenting   “It’s all Bush’s fault”,  refer please to E.  Man up Mr.President and take responsibility for Your failures, on Your wach. “I ‘inherited the worst economy, bla bla bla.”  You inherited NOTHING Sir….you applied for the job knowing the state of affairs,  won the election, you so desperatly wanted to “inherit”. Please go cry on Jimmy Carter’s shoulders, and let America be done with you and your band of misfits and malcontents. We are sick of your snake oil, your excuses,and your dim witted view of democracy. One more point Mr. Obama, your phrase “Jobless recovery” is akin to  saying smoking has great health advantages.

    1. A well put indictment of the worst president in my (almost) 50 year voting lifetime!  And, I might add you named the second worst as well!

        1.  Truth has been the enemy of this administration since day 1. Look even recently how they have changed their story on the terrorist attack in Libya at least twenty times. The Obama Administration has shown outright indifferent at times to the attack – they seem to care less that one of our Ambassadors was sodomized and murdered along with three civilians because they removed security and replaced our armed guards with civilian Libyan bodyguards who betrayed them. Pathological liars is the Obama leadership and many are naive enough to offer these liars a second term. The majority of Americans are awake and will be flushing this band of misfits down the drain on election day. This is disgusting to me as a veteran. What kind of person offers this level of incompetence four more years to screw things up?

  52. Just a cursory glance at the posts shows no mention of how well the President speaks without a teleprompter.  Obvious reason:  he’s always dome quite well without a teleprompter.  finally sunk in I guess.

  53. Just what the country needs, 4 more years of the angry, uppity black guy!
    NOT!!!

    obama sure doesn’t do well without his pet teleprompter!

        1. no joe, are you a wingnut from Maine? Apparently joe you’re what they call a low information voter, it shows dude ….. double digit IQ?

      1. the binder was full of resumes’ of the women he hired .btw,why does obama pay the women in his administration 18% less than the men?

  54. obama looked like a petulant child next to romney.crowley’s skirt was the 2nd one this week that he had to hide behind.first hillary takes responsibility for libya,then he hides behind the moderator at the debate.imagine,if you will,the most powerful man in the world hiding behind two women and throwing one of them under the bus.

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