The House late Tuesday gave final approval to a Senate-backed bill that will let taxes rise for the richest Americans, shield the middle class from tax hikes and extend emergency unemployment benefits, ending Washington’s long drama over the fiscal cliff.

The dramatic vote followed a wild day in which the critical measure was assumed for several hours to be headed for defeat because of widespread Republican objections. The vote was 257 to 167, with 85 Republicans joining with nearly all of the chambers Democrats.

Before the vote, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) urged his colleagues to vote for the bill “not as a Democrat, not as a Republican, but as an American who understands that our people believe that action is necessary.’’ Yet he expressed some of the reluctance lawmakers on both sides felt over a compromise that seemed to fully please no one.

“I severely regret that this is not a big, bold and balanced plan,” Hoyer said. “We had an opportunity to reach such an agreement in a bipartisan fashion. And we will not reach a big, bold, balanced plan without bipartisanship, because the decisions we’ll have to make will be too difficult not to do in a bipartisan fashion.”

Earlier, in a closed-door meeting with Republican lawmakers, House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) had outlined options for handling the bill, including a proposal to satisfy conservatives by tacking on billions of dollars in new spending cuts.

But the leaders warned that the Senate was unlikely to approve any changes to the carefully calibrated compromise and that a vote to amend the measure probably would leave the nation facing historic tax increases for virtually every American — and force House Republicans to take the blame.

The other option: Let the measure pass the House unchanged and go to the White House for President Obama’s signature. Late Tuesday, it appeared that even some of the chamber’s staunchest conservatives were ready to give up the fight.

“I think the best outcome is to have a clean bill, actually put it on the floor and see what the consensus of the House is,” said Rep. Raul R. Labrador (R-Idaho), a freshman who has opposed every major bipartisan compromise on the budget over the past two years and said he would vote against the measure.

Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.), another freshman, said he would support the legislation as the “safest bet” to prevent a major tax increase that many economists predict would throw the nation back into recession.

“The Senate has gone home,” Barletta said. “I don’t know if playing chicken with the American people at this point is in the best interest of the people.”

If approved by the House, the measure would let the top tax rate rise immediately from 35 percent to 39.6 percent on income over $450,000 for married couples and $400,000 for single people — the first broad tax increase in two decades and the first since 1990 to pass Congress with Republican support.

The measure would protect more than 100 million families earning less than $250,000 a year from significant income tax increases set to take effect this month — although payroll taxes will rise for most households in 2013 with the end of a temporary tax cut approved two years ago.

In addition to dealing with the fiscal crisis, the measure would extend federal farm policies through September, averting an estimated doubling of milk prices. The deal also nixed a scheduled pay raise for members of Congress.

After weeks of partisan bickering over whether taxes should rise for anyone, the compromise bill rolled through the Senate in a highly unusual vote early on Tuesday morning. The measure was approved 89 to 8, with both parties offering overwhelming support.

The moment served as a rare bipartisan coda to what has been one of the most rancorous, partisan Congresses in recent history, as the 11 senators who are retiring received hugs and kisses from their colleagues in both parties.

Three Democrats voted against the measure, including liberal Tom Harkin (Iowa), and moderates Thomas R. Carper (Del.) and Michael F. Bennet (Colo.). Bennet said the bill would do little to reduce record budget deficits.

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the measure would increase the national debt by $4 trillion over the next decade than if all of the tax hikes and scheduled automatic spending cuts had been allowed to kick in.

Five Senate Republicans also rejected the measure, including tea party favorites Rand Paul (Ky.), Mike Lee (Utah) and Marco Rubio (Fla.), a potential contender for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. But 40 others voted for it, including such GOP leaders on tax-and-spending policy as Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (Pa.) and Ronald H. Johnson (Wis.), a tea party star who frequently consults with conservatives in the House.

Neither party was entirely happy with the bill. While conservatives complained about new taxes on the rich and a lack of spending cuts, liberals complained about its provisions regarding inherited estates.

Although the tax rate would rise from 35 percent to 40 percent, estates worth as much as $5 million — $10 million for married couples — would go untaxed. And an inflation adjustment would guarantee that the size of the exemption would grow to $15 million for couples by the end of the decade.

Still, House Democrats largely embraced the measure, which was negotiated by Vice President Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and endorsed by Obama.

“It’s long overdue for us to have this solution to go forward and remove all doubt as to what comes next for our country,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said after Biden briefed House Democrats on the contents of the bill.

Hours later, Pelosi indicated via Twitter that a “strong majority” of Democrats supported the legislation and that she was “confident” it would pass if Boehner held a vote.

Among House Republicans, however, the measure at first appeared to run into strong opposition. The GOP held two briefings for its members on the bill. After the first, which lasted nearly two hours, Cantor emerged to announce his opposition.

Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said Cantor “forcefully” aired his concerns during the closed-door session, during which other GOP members expressed grave doubts about the Senate agreement.

“We should not take a package put together by a bunch of sleep-deprived octogenarians on New Year’s Eve,” said Rep. Steven C. LaTourette (R-Ohio), a moderate and a Boehner ally.

The negative reaction threatened to plunge Washington back into the high-stakes, last-minute drama that has characterized both the fiscal cliff negotiations and a series of other recent confrontations between the two parties over spending and taxes, including the 2011 fight over raising the federal borrowing limit.

Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) said a “consensus” was developing that the GOP should amend the Senate’s plan and attach additional spending cuts. “I would be shocked if the bill did not go back to the Senate,” he said.

Senate Democrats and administration officials warned darkly that any move to amend the measure would be met with stony silence in the Senate. The House would be responsible for a dive over the cliff hours before U.S. financial markets were set to open Wednesday after the New Year’s holiday.

Some House members in the meeting cautioned colleagues that changing the Senate bill would risk damaging the economy and their reputations, Bachus said. But the prevailing view was that Congress must get a handle on government spending or “doom the markets.”

For hours, there was no decision on how to proceed. As leaders huddled, rank-and-file members returned to their offices and were greeted with confusing messages from conservatives and constituents about how to vote.

Former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), who has opposed any deal to raise taxes, voiced support for Cantor. But conservative writer William Kristol, who is close to House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (Wis.), the 2012 GOP vice presidential nominee, wrote a blog post titled “Say Yes to the Mess.”

“Politically, Republicans are escaping with a better outcome than they might have expected, and President Obama has gotten relatively little at his moment of greatest strength,” Kristol said, advising House Republicans to take the deal.

Throughout the evening, Republican leaders surveyed members about the spending-cut package, and concluded that the Senate bill would pass without it. Around 8 p.m., they announced that they would hold a vote within the next few hours with the expectation that Democrats and Republicans would join forces to approve the measure and avoid much of the fiscal cliff.

Paul Kane and Ed O’Keefe contributed to this report.

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  1. Personally I feel privileged to be well off enough in America that I can easily afford to pay my fair share of taxes to do my part in keeping this great county moving forward. No I’m not over the 400K mark but if I were I think my mindset would move from privileged to “thrilled” to pay a few more bucks in taxes to keep this gravy train moving.

    Taxes aren’t the real issue that should be being discussed here. It’s all about GREED and the feeling of some that they are “Entitled” to every single penny of the wealth they have amassed under a system they tyrannically want to dismantle. If you’re rich in America, our system made you (or your daddy or daddy’s daddy) that way. Stop rocking the boat or that system and your ability to accumulate more wealth may someday vanish. Don’t agree? That’s fine, please leave this country and try living and making your millions in China.

    1. Unfortunately, if the 1/2 of us who are takers drive away the 1/2 half of us who are makers like you propose who will be left to pay for your socialist utopia? Most liberal behavior is driven by envy. Want to be rich, go earn it, don’t take it from me.

      1. Hey I’m all in favor of those like you who view Americans as takers and makers to go live happily ever after in China. Go ask the Chinese government if you can live like a king there while keeping every penny in your overstuffed “entitled” to every penny pockets. Good luck and don’t let your American citizenship kick you in the behind on the way out.

        1. Is that your entire argument? Go to China if you don’t want to pay more? Sorry, this is my country. My family has been here more than 300 years. If I and my kind leave, what will the takers left behind do to pay for their socialist utopia? You forgot to answer that one. If you want to pay more in taxes to make yourself feel better then. please by all means do so.

          1. If you like living here then you better get used to the way it actually has been and is rather than the nonexistant self serving utopia of your dreams. Real Americans will rejoice upon your exit simply because we will no longer need to endure having to listen to your constant entitled whining about how much money you think you deserve to make off our system while giving nothing back. 希望您享受您的逗留在中国

          2. “Give nothing back”?
            Wow, I don’t think I’ve even heard our Marxist-In-Chief go that far!

          3. Your family took when they came here from the people already here, and you are still taking. You should be willing to support the system that allowed and rewarded your taking. I’m sure you like the conservative talk show phrase “someone else’s money” – you just don’t seem to realize that the money in your account was once “someone else’s money”. – Oh, that’s right, you “earned” it. Very few who are in the 1 or 2 top percent actually “earned” it, they simply figured out how to remove it from others’ pockets under the “rules” of our system: the system they don’t want to be financially responsible for.

          4. Or they inherited it.The day Sam Walton died,five of his heirs jumped into the Top Ten of wealthiest Americans.The “makers” who complain would never leave this country-there’s nowhere else they could live so well and pay taxes at the lowest rates in more than 60 years.Don’t let them fool you-they’ve got it made and always will.

      2. Why would anyone envy greed but the greedy? The ones left would be the ones who do the work in this country and actually earn every penny they get. “Want to be rich, go earn it, don’t take it from me” who did you take it from?

      3. So where are the JOBS “job creators” were supposed to be MAKING in exchange for their lower tax rates?? Anyone?

        1. Exactly. We can account for the positive effect the $800 billion stimulus had, but there is zero evidence of economic activity produced by the trillion dollar gift to the “job creators”

          That money is apparently parked off shore doing nothing.

      4. Except the 1/2 that are takers don’t want to be in that position. Most of them want and will work for a livable wage. The 5% of truly lazy dysfunctional takers have always been there and always will. The failure of the business titans is simply producing more of them.

        In the 60’s I recall conversations about 4 day work weeks and 6 week paid vacations in addition to full medical coverage and generous retirement. Is that what you call a socialist utopia? That’s what we had and it was called capitalism.

        Doing business in the US has value. That value was created by the generations who proceeded us. You don’t give a product (US markets) that you have invested a lot in away, so why do we give away the opportunity to do business in the US. How do you price a iphone? Do you charge the $20 dollars it takes to produce? You charge what the market will bear to produce the maximum profit.

        1. Only 5% are lazy takers? I doubt that the percentage is lower than 50%. I can not think of a way to actually prove such a percentage with any reliability. Ask and I doubt that you would find that even 1 person would be willing to admit to admit that they would one of “those”.

          1. There is a way to prove such a percentage, it’s called sociology. There are people who study these relationships and analyze them to death. Maine has done a dozen studies and they all produce the same result.

            If we are seeking solutions, we are looking in the wrong place if we only cut benefits. Something has to happen at the top to stimulate economic activity and attract people to a middle-class life. That’s the job of leadership.

          2. Sociology could be truly useful, if every person involved was not interested in making a political view more “true” than it is.
            The fact that they all produce the same result probably proves that they were designed to prove a specific and political point.
            If we refuse to cut “benefits” we will never cure the economic problems in the US.
            Yes other places have to be cut too; Education, Defense, Transportation, State … Every Federal department needs trimming, some need elimination. Over the next decade, if the citizens hold the politicians feet to the fire, the Federal Budget could be cut by half with little real damage.

    2. Exactly. The entitlement crowd pretends they get rich all on their own and that the system in place has nothing to do with facilitating that wealth. It’s awful and you’re right, if we’re so crushing, go somewhere else. Would love to see a guy like Romney trying to make all the money he does in China.

      1. Wow, are you Obama with the “You didn’t build that” attitude? The takers, especially the government, do not produce wealth. The makers do. I do not expect entitlements, just trying to keep a little of what I produce. If you try to take it from me, do not be surprised if I just don’t roll over and take it. I don’t plan to move to China either.

        1. You make over $250,000 a yr? If not, we’re not interested in taking any more from you. It’s the Mitt Romneys with their huge profits on their entrenched wealth that they pay single digit taxes on that we’re pissed off about.

        2. The so called “makers ” have been highly subsidized at the expense of the rest of us thru preferential taxation.

        3. If the makers were making we wouldn’t have a problem, but their not. They are mining the value of someone else’s creation. They are inventing “financial instruments” that no one understands and have zero intrinsic value.

          Do you buy gas? food? live in a house? If you do your already “taking” it.

          I live in Thailand. Free markets galore if you know the right people and can navigate the corruption which is about 20% of GDP. You tea people would love it. free markets galore, but the cost of all that is big risk. extreme pollution and lawlessness. Pretty much America 70 years ago.

          It’s easy to say cut this and that because you don’t know what that looks like, but read the forums for expats, it’s a constant stream of complaints about these issues that you take for granted.

          1. If it matters, I grew up in Portland and my ancestors came to Maine in the 1750’s. Judging from my genealogy research I’m probably related to half of you. I guess you could say that “you can take the boy out of Maine, but you can’t take Maine out of the boy” My family still lives in Maine. I have hiked, biked, sailed and canoed a good bit of Maine and always with a sense of awe that I was walking in the footsteps of my ancestors.
            I don’t think it should matter where people come from. It’s all about ideas and leadership to funnel those ideas into positive action.
            My beef is people looking for solutions in the wrong places. People have to start looking at the top, the so called “job creators” and the system they operate under because that is where the economic solutions are.

            Maine is perfectly suited for paper manufacturing, but we lost much of it due to a lack of investment. People need to understand that the market share was lost because of quality issues, not unions and not regulations. Germany just built the largest most sophisticated paper machine in the world while Maine is stuck trying to feed paper makers who were displaced.

            If we’re going to call the rich “job creators” shouldn’t we be demanding some proof? Ten years, almost a trillion dollars. Where is the proof that it created a single job?

        4. You didn’t build that on your own. That’s fact. There is a system in America that allows people to succeed or fail on their own. If you think you could get rich anywhere else, then go somewhere else is Obama is so awful. You guys are nothing but entitled whiners.

          1. No one is entirely a maker. Anyone who suggests so is way too simplistic and not operating in reality. Mitt Romney for example relies heavily on laws and courts to protect him, his property, ensure his agreements are enforced, etc.

            Don’t be so simply minded.

          2. What do Roxanne Quimby, Gerard Depardieu (something tells me you a foreign film buff) France’s wealthiest citizen (fatcat CEO and luxury mogul) and Jock McKernan all have in common? They all moved away from their state or country to escape high taxes. Sorry to be so simple, but if you tax the wealthy too much, these resourceful folks move away, leaving you takers to fend for your selves. Sorry, no more Socialist utopia for you po’ folk. No one around left to pay for it.

          3. You’re talking about weird and irrelevant things — changing the subject to avoid addressing the issue. Look at my initial comment you replied to, it has absolute nothing to do with the nonsense you’re spewing right now.

      2. In China Mittens would be lucky to find a state job knitting mittens for export back here to be sold at Wally World. Many of these folks are clueless as to how the world works and how incredibly lucky they were to be born in America and to have profited so greatly from a system that they have nothing but complaints about. I say we should give em all knitting needles and a boat ride to reality.

        1. “Mittens” lost this is about Obama and his destruction of the most successful economic system ever created.

    3. You preach as is government greed is some how more noble than the greed of individuals. You might be surprised to know that after paying state income tax, federal income tax, sales tax, property tax, excise tax, FICA, etc. many middle-class families pay effective tax rates approaching, or surpassing 50%. I don’t know about you, but taking that much of anyone’s income is crossing an unacceptable moral line.

      But I am glad that you support our politicians who feel that it is acceptable to steal that much of our incomes to pay for broken and corrupt government programs that do little to nothing to help impoverished America.

      And by the way, “the system” doesn’t make people wealthy, wealth creation is what makes people wealthy.

    4. If you are so frigging happy to send in more money to be wasted … Send it in there is no law against sending the government more than you are required to.

    1. Higher taxes were agree on for the rich….now where are the REAL spending cuts. This is the hold up….cuts. I don’t care how the Dems. try and spin it.

      1. They won’t make the cuts where they are NEEDED.(defense,countless billions to Israel,etc.etc.)5% of Medicare patients take 70% of Medicare spending.Time to thin the herd.Won’t happen due to AARP.Good luck.

      1. Yeah? What about the REAL takers? The millionaires and billionaires that don’t pay their freight? What about them, huh? Or, is it just easier to keep lashing out at the poor? Pathetic.

        I’ll tell you one thing, the Tea Party with this latest bit of obstruction, and the pushing us over the fiscal cliff are sealing their own fate! 2014 mid-terms are going to be an anti-Tea-Party if they don’t get their heads out of their arses.

        1. When the takers drive away the makers (count the # of “If you don’t want to pay more move to China” type comments on these boards) who will pay for your Socialist Utopia?

          1. What utopia? The utopia of poverty? C’mon.

            Takers, like welfare frauds? How many welfare cheats does it take to equal a Robert Nutting?

        2. If you notice, he’ll have no response to your response. Because it’s logical, and he’s not

      2. Oh so because you make a lot of money means that the people that are struggling are “takers?” I went to school, I work my ass off. No, I don’t make a lot of money but I’ll be damned if anyone is going to look down on me and call me a taker because I don’t make 100k + a year. It’s your type of thinking that has brought these problems to America.

        1. Who is looking down on you? Who is calling you a taker? I’m just saying if you drive away the high income earners, you will be left with just the po’ folk who can not or will not support themselves. Google “Gerard Depardieu renounces French citizenship” to see what happens to a society that taxes its wealthy too much. These wealthy, resourceful people move away, taking their money with them. Have you seen Roxanne Quimby down at the Maine Revenue Service lately filing her return?

          1. Do you mean this guy? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2251340/Adieu-France-Gerard-Depardieu-lands-Rome-renouncing-French-citizenship.html

            The same guy who’s own son called his father “‘ a money-obsessed alcoholic who was largely absent from
            his childhood’.

            Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2251340/Adieu-France-Gerard-Depardieu-lands-Rome-renouncing-French-citizenship.html#ixzz2Gtu0BD40

            He claims he paid 85% of his income in taxes. America is no where near that. In fact when Romney made his 47% comments about “takers” who pay no tax he was talking about 5,000 millionaires who pay no tax.

            You do raise a valid point. How much would the rich pay to live and do business in America? Seems to me that the privileged of living and doing business from America is worth a lot. Maybe if we charged what it is worth we could generate the revenue we need and motivate these business titans to produce competitive products and services instead of mining the value of someone else’s creation.

            The reality is that businesses that invest in perfecting their ability to compete globally are already getting tax breaks.

      1. Obama’s giving them a break. If he stuck to his guns and the $200/$250 tax threshold and another $200 billion stimulus there would be no agreement and the republican party would cease to exist after 2014.

    1. It’s dying pretty quickly.Civilized people are horrified at these nitwits who think they know the budget and the Constitution when they’re being led around by the nose by the likes of Dick Armey.

  2. We should throw the tax code out and go to the fair tax, that way everyone would pay their fair (whatever that is) share. If you make one dollar or twenty million you pay the same rate. It’s way to easy for the politicians to buy votes by giving way free stuff. Guess what, Stuff isn’t free, someone has to pay. Now let’s hear the whining about the poor poor. Most of the poor in this country live like millionaires compared to the poor in most other countries. A car, and also possibly a pick-up, cell phones, wide screen tvs, internet, the government giving them money for heating and eating, and the list goes on and on. Oh yes, StillRelaxin, WOW, I’m sure there is help for you, although with that mind set, it might be a daunting task. On the bright side though, the government would probably pay for you, after all, they would just take it away from those greedy evil rich people who don’t deserve it anyway, and buy your vote with it.

    1. Flat isn’t fair. Libertarians or the Tea Party? Which is worse? I still have to go with the tea party, because they actually have gotten people elected.

      1. libertarian = Tea party. One and the same thing. They lack the courage to run as a third party so they are ruining the GOP and the USA ,instead . 65 House member have stood in the way and OBSTRUCTED for the last 2 years Sixty five have held this country and the GOP hostage !!!

      2. Fair Tax not flat tax, there’s a difference, check it out. What’s fair for one is fair for all.

        1. Call it whatever you want. Put lipstick on the pig. It’s still a pig. “You pay the same rate…” That’s a flat tax, and it’s a simpletons view of economics.

          1. It’s quite clear you know nothing about the fair tax. Try researching a topic, there is a lot of material published on it, then your comments wouldn’t make you look so much like an ignoramus. Just saying… When you’ve studied the subject then we can engage in a rational conversation. The more sarcastic your remarks, the brighter the light shines on yourself. Have at it. Actually I get a kick out of it.

    2. How about we stick to what we know works because it worked in the 60’s and 70’s.

      Let people get rich the old fashion way, by competing on the global market.

  3. Oh ya, just a guess, STOP THE WASTEFUL SPENDING WASHINGTON. Might just solve a lot of problems. IDK

  4. Out the door with all of them, they had months and months to work on this and get this done, instead politics win out while they work out at our expense at the congressional gym and eat lunch, at our expense, and act like the pigs that they all are. Throw them all out! I am sick, sick, sick of this and I want to strip the rights of these elected officials and send them back to the ranks of the working class, the middle class, and see what we all have to deal with because of their folly. They will pay and what they are doing is see through. Protect the rich, tax the poor. Same old line that keeps the rich getting richer and the poor (all of us) getting poorer. Remember to Vote.

  5. Tax revenue is not a problem. Spending has doubled in 10 years. Taxing the rich might get 60 billion in revenue this year, yet our deficit this year is over 1,000 billion.

    1. So what? nobody cares what our debt is or they would stop buying it.

      $60 billion is 60 billion which is not the point. The point is that the way to get the debt under control (again) is to stimulate economic activity which is what Obama has been trying to do since 2008.

  6. The cliff is a good start. Since they refuse to use scalpels on the budget or address the exponential increase going on with spending using the hatchet will atleast put the country on track to last longer then a decade. The supposed deal had 2 billion in cuts and 330 billion in new spending. Completely insane.

  7. Everybody thinks there is a cliff. bait and switch.. Sad that we aren’t facing a cliff yet the politicans need to frighten the public to s<ew us.

  8. The whole fiscal cliff debate is a stalling tactic on the part of the republicans to stall the economy and prevent economic activity which would shine a light on the failure of trickledown. It has the added effect of ensuring that trillions are pumped into the stock market to keep it afloat.

    The problem is that the rich are not holding up their part of the social contract. Nobody cares how much they make as long as they earn it. They are not earning it. They are in fact paying the lowest taxes since 1958. They have profited from labor productivity, they were given a trillion dollars of technology produced by US government R&D, they received subsidies of about $160 billion/yr and another $60 billion of local “incentives” and they still can’t compete on the global stage. Look at any value added product and we are losing global market share. We should be earning big time from globalization.

    Global demand is increasing. The problem America has is we are not getting our share because these business titans couldn’t manage their way out of a paper bag.

    Look at the auto industry. In the 50’s and 60’s the US had virtually 100% of the market share. They could produce whatever crap cars they wanted and American’s would buy them because that’s all there was. The Japanese took market share because they produced quality cars that met customer demands. Even watching their market share decline they couldn’t get their act together and it took them 30 years to begin to approach Japanese quality and choice. This same thing can be said for steel and paper. These are the people who are being rewarded.

    If the titan’s of business want to make money, great let them do it the old fashion way; produce products that can compete. Run companies that get better over time instead of self destructing like IBM did. Look at Enron and the number of companies who are down right corrupt.

    Welfare and associated social cost is the product of the failure of these business titans not the cause. Most of these people want to work and will work for a decent wage. Everyone could get a tax cut if the US was earning it’s share of globalization.

    There are only two problems with the American economy. Companies can’t compete in global markets because they are poor managers and too busy playing games with financial gimmicks and we spend way too much on the military. A trillion dollars per year for boats and planes that frighten no one. The 911 attack cost $300K, the Cole attack a few thousand. Any country that hates us can easily fund a proxy army to attack us.

    1. It is not just the Republicans. Both parties are corupt.. That is why they passed laws to make it difficult to have a 3 party system.

      1. They are all politician’s, but there is a difference. Go back and read the republican platforms all the way back to the turn of the century. Those conservative republicans were all about minimal defense spending, improving education, eliminating poverty and creating a competitive business environment. This republican bunch is all about taking from the middle class and giving to the rich.

        We are not being beaten in the global market by China for the products and services that really matter, we are being beaten by countries like Germany. China still has to outsource all of it’s technology and 95% of the people are farmers.

    1. Republican’s should thank Obama for saving their useless party. The tea party will be gone after 2014; just another bad memory like Bush, Reagan and the neocons.

      I wonder what the republican’s will come up with next to obstruct government for the people.

      1. They are “done” as of this vote. 85 Rational R’s had the courage to say a strong NO to them, to GROVER, to Cantor and to holding America ( and Americans ) hostage!!!.They broke the chains that bound them.

    2. How many of those 85 are not part of the new Congress which is being seated tomorrow?How many already have their CONsulting and speaking “jobs” lined up and won’t have to face the voters?

  9. This is just foreplay.

    The two month extension to sequestration will just about correspond with the egomanical Obama demanding an increase to his line of credit.

    Real fireworks coming soon.

    1. The so called increase to “his” (Obama’s) line of credit is actually just authorizing paying bills the legislature already racked up. It does not include one penny of new spending it just pays for the spending already agreed upon.

      Not raising the debt ceiling would be like going out and running up a credit card bill then refusing to pay it just because you don’t feel like it.

      1. I can not imagine a more ludicrous argument than yours.

        You are saying that, since you already signed subcriptions for the New York Times and the Wine-of-the-Month Club, you should be allowed to continue spending on them.

        You are also advocating that, just because your credit card is maxed out, you should not be required to exchange your bullet-proof, 6 mpg SUV that you are leasing for $1700/month for a Chevy Cobalt.

        The fact that 40 cents of every dollar of your life style is borrowed seems to be of no importance to you. Instead, you are clamoring for another increase in your credit limit and hope the bills don’t really come due until after you are dead (or, in the case of our politicians, no longer in office.)

        Let the survivors deal with it. Good plan.

        1. You’ve done nothing but demonstrate how incredibly little you know.

          The debt ceiling issue has to do with spending already authorized, not some mythical future extension of a “wine of the month club”.

          You ordered the bottles of wine and took delivery and THEN said, “I don’t think I’ll pay for it”.

  10. 151 Republicans who claim to be anti tax increases just voted against a tax cut.
    .
    The level cognitive dissonance required for them to pull that off is impressive.

  11. As usual the Democrats have forced their way to be followed.
    This agreement brings us 42 dollars in taxes for every dollar in spending cuts, along with a promise to make cuts later. Right just like they made that offer to Reagan and Bush 1. Those cuts never happened.

      1. I am unable to find a breakdown but I had been under the impression the entire “Sequestation” was cuts with no tax increases over the end of the “Bush tax cuts”.

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