Human value diminished
Diane Smith of Holden wrote a recent letter to the editor about family planning. To follow her line of reasoning, abortion is acceptable because the babies will not all be adopted and should be disposed of, sort of like drowning a litter of unwanted kittens.
Martin Luther King, Jr. Day is approaching. Wasn’t his work about the dignity and value of all human beings and their equality to all?
This nation’s focus seems to be changing from one of the worth of each person simply because they exist to that of value derived by what we can contribute. Thus we are on our way to becoming units to be discarded when we no longer function. We then join the litter of unwanted kittens.
Margaret Carter
Belfast
Family Planning savings
Gerald Thibodeau’s recent letter to the editor, “Cut Family Planning,” fails the straight-face test by attempting to distract readers from this fact — family planning saves Maine taxpayers money.
Maine policymakers, Republicans and Democrats, have long recognized that funding family planning is an investment. For every dollar spent on family planning, an estimated $3.82 in Medicaid-related dollars are saved. Maine’s teen pregnancy rate declined 40 percent between 1991 and 2008 — one of the steepest declines in the nation. This saved Maine taxpayers an estimated $31 million in 2008 alone in medical costs that would be paid by Medicaid. In addition, all state funds support direct family planning services.
These facts weigh heavy on lawmakers’ minds as they deal with budget shortfalls — not the ideological opposition to birth control or abortion.
This year, Maine’s family planning system provided reproductive health care to 27,208 women, men and teens — 82 percent of whom qualified for free or reduced fees — seeking critical preventive health care services including Pap tests to detect cervical cancer and breast exams to detect warning signs of breast cancer.
The governor’s proposal to cut $401,000 to family planning would mean reduced hours at some family planning health centers and the elimination of others in most rural parts of Maine. To the extent that this is about money and not about policy or politics or philosophy, it is an extraordinarily unwise move. In the end, reducing funding to family planning will cost far more — financially and socially — than it saves.
Connie Adler, M.D.
Board President
Family Planning Association of Maine
Reading recommendation
Want to know exactly what big health insurance has been doing to persuade you to go against your own best interests? Read “Deadly Spin.” Wendell Potter, former senior PR executive with one of the largest for-profit health insurance corporations in the U.S., has written a book detailing how the health care industry has made fools of us all and paupers of many. After all, he was the “spinmeister” extraordinaire. He knows how it’s done.
Read why he jumped ship. Read how insurers got rid of enrollees who filed claims (drained profits). Check out “rescission” and “purging” in the book; those are just some methods the insurance industry uses to cull the sick from their rolls and make more profits.
Medicare works. Why not follow that model for all health insurance? People on Medicare, like me, pay into it every month even though we’ve paid into it from our paychecks for many years. It’s not free, but the premiums are a lot less than you pay into big health insurance’s for-profit coffers every month. And Medicare doesn’t drop you for getting sick.
Virginia Royster
Blue Hill
Raw milk choice
To drink raw milk or not to drink raw milk? One farmer sells his excess milk to his neighbor who is well aware that it is raw. Since when can he not choose to take the risk about whether to drink it?
I guess we’d better start getting Maine Department of Agriculture’s approval for every jar of jam, every bake sale brownie and every glass of lemonade sold in our little towns since, low and behold, they could also contain E coli, bugs and the whole set of germs found in most every private kitchen.
If we can choose to kill ourselves with cigarettes and myriad other deathly substances that even have the approval of government agencies, then please let us keep the freedom to personally and knowingly choose to drink milk in a form that some consider more healthy than it might be harmful.
Alice Duston
Cherryfield
Lobster a prudent choice
One disturbing assumption that has arisen from the recent controversy over Christine Rousselle’s welfare blogs is that purchasing lobsters in Maine is a luxury. Lobsters may be considered extravagant in all the other 49 states of the U.S., but here in Maine lobsters should be a staple on every menu.
Lobster is highly nutritious, fresh, minimally processed and super-easy to prepare. Purchasing lobster supports a vital Maine industry.
When SNAP recipients choose lobster, they are making a nutritious choice that keeps Maine dollars here in Maine. So the next time you see someone use their EBT card to purchase lobster, congratulate them on making a sensible selection. Then suggest they pair that lobster with some Maine potatoes and some Maine wild blueberries. What could be better than using SNAP money to purchase a healthy meal harvested and sold by fellow Mainers?
Wanda Labrecque
Palmyra
LePage no Caesar
Gov. LePage probably was thinking of Julius Caesar’s famous words, “I came, I saw, I conquered,” when he decided to invite himself to the three information sessions in the County on his proposed cuts in the programs that are the lifeline to some of the most vulnerable in our society.
Well, he came, he saw, but he did not conquer. He failed to convince the large attendance that his proposals are the only way to go. Thanks to many people who had the courage to speak up despite his bullying and insults, he was exposed as the purveyor of doom and gloom. The governor resorted to the blame game, rebuking the Legislature — which ironically has a majority of his own party in both the House and Senate — for not cooperating with him to apply Draconian cuts in order to balance the budget and chastising the federal government for its decrease of money coming to Maine.
The blame game and strong-arm tactics don’t work with people who expect more from their elected officials, especially after experiencing positive results over the years from elected officials from both parties. Fortunately, Maine has been blessed with hardworking Democrats and Republicans who work in a bipartisan way to maintain the safety net that is the mark of a caring and just society.
Ross Paradis
Frenchville



LePage is definitely not Caesar, Yosemite Sam Maybe : )
Except for the mustache I’d say you nailed it. LOL Short, fat, loud and not very bright.
As always, ALL ABOUT THE ISSUES.
Lighten up Dude, here have a Lobster ; )
I looked at your comment, then to my spam. BEHOLD, A coupon for free lobster.
That’s awesome!!, Hey free Lobsters for everyone!
When you can’t argue on the issues, you just pick on the physical appearance of the person. Sad, infantile, I know…but it must just stink to be a liberal, eh?
Liberal, conservative, there’s no shortage of zingers from either party.
Issues??? What issues??
Well I’m sorry your pick for Governor can be characterized as short, fat, loud and not very bright. Next time pick someone tall, thin, reflective and intelligent.
Like Obama??? Hahahahaha
ABSOLUTELY!
She can’t be talking about Obama because she listed intelligent.
and she forgot to mention the ears….
Yup! But if you are happy with loud, dumb and crude ….. stick with your gov.
I don’t think Rick Scott would appreciate you talking about him that way.
Subtract short and insert criminal for Rick Scott
I’m having fun!
you don’t have to be a liberal to be disgusted with the behavior, the mouth and the condescending attitude of this man!
To be “disgusted”? Yes, you do have to be a liberal…or a former supporter of Peter Mills. Those people have been disgusted with LePage from the start.
Nah, we’re having a good time poking fun at LePage’s foul mouth, tiny dinosaur brain and mean spirited policies. What stinks is being a conservative and having to own him.
No, you’re right, we should pick on race, religion, and sexual orientation like conservatives.
Why is anyone still talking about abortion?
FOCUS PEOPLE!!!
Because innocent unborn children are dying.
You mean innocent unborn children are being murdered.
Innocent newborns, infants and children are being murdered everyday ….. all over the world.
So, why should we be adding to the numbers? Let’s spend the hundred million or so per year that goes for abortions on helping the unwanted children with a better life.
You mean orphanages, institutions or paying people to take them in? Oh that’s right …. the US has been there and done that….. and still there are thousands of children in the US waiting to be adopted and remain on waiting lists and unwanted.
Ironically, there are about the same number of adoption requests each year as there are abortions in this country. Problem is, an adoption in this country is so expensive and full of red tape that most couples choose to spend the money to adopt from foreign countries. If we could get the lawyers fees and restrictions out of the way, just about every unwanted child could have a home.
There is truth in this comment. It is easier and less time consuming to complete a foreign adoption than a US one. There are also other complications like “open adoptions” that you would have to consider.
Open Adoptions are one option and if potential adopters do not wish this type they can opt other types.
My brother and his wife adopted 2 children and they didn`t go to a foreign country. The majority of children on waiting lists are not `perfect` in the eyes of potential adopters …..they are older or physically, intellectually or emotionally disabled ….. or a combination. In other words they are waiting because they are unwanted now, after birth.
Interesting – so, that would mean you are willing to support social service programs for these children and their families?
Not so fast there, programs for children and families?????? Isn’t that socialism. Nope we don’t want none of the commie stuff. …….. Makes people weak ………. Just keep popping out them babies and paying the price of havin’ fun. Nasty, pushy women …… thinkin’ they got “rights” Stupid, mush brained commies thinkin’ commie stuff like food stamps and Head Start are good for poor people. Let ’em get their own stuff just like I got mine …………. by havin’ smarts and education and rich parents and quit sucking up my money.
Warning: sarcasm alert
I do support social service programs that help the impoverished families and children. Never said otherwise. What I’m opposed to is welfare for those that are able to work but choose not to, for those that scam the system, for those that have made it a way of life, for the over bloated administrative costs and unnecessary employees working in the welfare system.
I must say that I am far more concerned with rich Maine politicians enriching themselves even further by funneling $235 million in state and federal money to their (or their spouses) businesses and organizations through the use of loopholes. I think it is fair to say that you might fight this particular type of “welfare for the wealthy” with the same vigor you have against a minority of welfare abusers.
I’m against “welfare for the wealthy”. That’s why I’m opposed to Progressives and RINOs.
I see. So this type of welfare (ie the enrichment of politicians, their businesses, and their spouses) isn’t a problem for you, and it is not outrageous to you that politicians are utilizing funds to enrich themselves. What is outrageous to you is the minority of people who abuse welfare. Makes perfect sense. Interesting, indeed.
Your comprehension skills are lacking.
You’re hilarious! Love you to pieces. Keep it up.
That’s the type of foolish statement that we are so accustomed to….IT’S THE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE THE ONES SUPPORTING CORPORATE WELFARE and you know that, so why be dishonest?
Sorry but that stuff comes with any “system”. It is impossible to weed out completly. Not that we shouldn’t try. You are just too black and white in your thinking EJ.
How can the ‘unborn’ be children? Don’t care for abortion? Don’t have one. No one is forcing you to have one. Being a man I can’t see how you get to mind a woman’s business.
I get it, your against abortion. Are ya gonna change it this week???????????? Do ya see a few things that perhaps you could get involved in that you could actually make a difference in tomorrow?????????? TRY DOING THAT ONCE IN AWHILE. Or do you sit at home with no intention or desire to get any more involved then complaining.? You can make a difference lin many areas but it involves THINKING . not just whining.
I’m not whining. I’m extremely involved in several important issues. Take a chill pill.
Too bad you don’t care about facts in that rush to involvement. Quality is always better than shoddy quantity.
Innocent newborns, infants and children are dying everyday ….. some from disease or illness, some from lack of food/clean water, some from war within their country, some at the hands of a parent or caregiver or stranger ….. why do some seem to care more about potential life than the survival of those who have been born?
But if LePage gets his way, every poor person in the state’s chances of dying soon will increase, but you care nothing about that. Twisted morality EJ, really twisted.
Again, you’re putting words in my mouth. I’ve never commented on LePage’s legislation because it won’t effect me. The only thing I’ve said about LePage is that Mainers should give him a chance.
How about Republicans giving Obama a chance instead of obstructing everything.
Exactly EJ… it won’t affect you. When it comes right down to it it is all about you.
unbalanced1 – Good handle. It fits you.
If you don’t value the sanctity of life, you wouldn’t even value your own. Why are you here?
LOBSTER???? Your joking right???
Next i’ll see Lobster men giving an EBT discount.
Where’s the Filet Mignon lobby when you need em?
The real problem with the insurance company’s is healthcare costs and bureaucracy. Paper pushing is big business all by itself and yet someone is going to complain because a paper pusher retires and they don’t replace them because through modern technology we need less people. By all means, complain about progress with that appendage known as a remote control stuck to your hand.
Thoreau, Brilliant, or just a lazy guy?
Discuss……..
Why?
Totally lazy guy who can’t even write well. His insights have all the profundity of Jersey Shore.
THANK YOU!!!
See, it’s not just me.
Hey Virginia…there ain’t no Santa Claus. Medicare doesn’t really work very well as it is scheduled to be broke within the decade. Then what? And why do so many on Medicare need Medicaid as well? Because Medicare does not cover so many things. And the fraud connected with Medicare could fill volumes. Maybe people on Medicare say they are happy with it, but I suspect most are happy because they no longer have to pay that stiff premium they were paying for their private insurance and they are now free to leave a job they were hanging onto for the said insurance. Which are two issues that should be addressed: why is insurance still tied to a job and why are prices so freakin’ high!?
Maybe Maedicare works too well. It is more efficient than other plans.
With the lobster lady’s train of thought, MaineCare recipients should be going to the hospital once or twice a day – it’s good for the economy! It makes jobs!
Medicare for all. Eliminate the insurance companies and get rid of the middle man and save the obscene CEO salaries, lobbying, advertising, and profit. Healthcare shouldn’t be a for profit system any more than fire or police protection should be.
Mmmm…supper tonight: Lobster, raw milk right off the cow. Delicious!
Right on Virginia, Medicare for all, end health care for profit and the creators of the REAL DEATH PANELS, Insurance Companies.
This site drags like no other site I visit. Always has always will. Have to wonder whether it”s incompetence on the webmaster’s part or something more insidious. Care to respond BDN?
How is this site dragging?
I
Sometimes this site gives me messages that the page is running a script that will cause my computer to slow down — those are not the exact words. Sometimes my computer does freeze up on these pages. I happened to me on this site today. It happens to me nowhere else on the internet.
It’s not the site. It’s most likely your computer. Clean your registry, delete your temp files, and defrag. Wise Cleaner is a great free application and it works.
I can finally agree with you! :)
This site does drag my computer like no other site. Frequently on this site, and on no other site, my computer tells me that the page is running a program that is going to cause everything to freeze up, which it sometimes does. Your advice about cleaning the registry and defragging is good — but it is the site, too.
Before I switched to Google Chrome, I had problems, too. But, registry maintenance does help.
This time we agree!
I am running IE 9 and only Windows security. No Norton or any other anti virus. Windows security is based on AVG’s anti-virus system, it’s free and about the best I have found. Keep your firewall up, run cleanup regular and stay away from porn, freebie offers, most e-cards, all those things that are obviously scams. I have not had a virus in years… seriously. And none of those slowdowns.
It is the site. It is loaded with bells and whistles and routinely requires over 200 megs to load a single page resulting in excruciatingly long downloads. You are not dealing with a state of the art system here. It’s a seat of the pants operation.
Thank you. The things people keep suggesting are what any fifth grader knows. I knew it had to be the site
I agree — this site drags my computer. There’s a problem with the page itself.
Works instantly for me…. and only 4 gigs of memory. Old 32 bit system I built out of spare parts.
Connie Adler, Virginia Royster, Ross Paradis: good letters.
Alice Duston says we kill ourselves in other ways, why can’t we have the right to kill ourselves by drinking raw milk. You can take your life any way you’d like, Ms. Dunston. By doing that, however, you don’t have the right to burden other people with your decision. So make absolutely sure your death will not impact anyone else. Just curious – why do you want to drink raw milk?
If someone can burden other people through consuming fast food and ending up with diabetes or heart disease, then I expect someone can drink raw milk and take the risk. Nineteen people are sick because of government inspected and certified beef sold at the local supermarket. It seems death will come one way or another.
Great rationality!
Margaret Carter – You’re right. The process of eliminating the unwanted has already started.
Connie Adler, M.D. – Just close down the abortion portion of your business and you won’t miss the cuts.
Virginia Royster – But, isn’t it true that Obamacare stole a half trillion dollars from Medicare, and Obama is seeking another 400 billion in cuts? Yes, it is true. I think your anger is misplaced.
Wanda Lebrecque – Lobsters are nothing more than overgrown cockroaches…. expensive overgrown cockroaches, at that.
E.J can you stop the lies?
He can’t help himself.
Seriously, Cecil, you are right. EJ—lobsters are not even close to cockroaches. I mean, sure, they are both Arthropods, but the difference is in class. Lobsters are crustaceans, cockroaches are insects.
But other than that, EJ, you are very truthful.
The cockroach thing is just a running joke down here in the South. Of course, we think the same of crawdads.
No he’s not. Most of his posts are loaded with lies. Obama didn’t steal from Medicare as he asserts. Nobody is losing benefits. That number is the savings from efficiency efforts, but EJ and the right like to lie about it. How a Republican can complain about such a thing when they support elimination of medicare as we know it and replacing it with an inadequate voucher program is despicable. It’s like the wars, they like him then complain about the deficit. Recess appointments: Bush did three times as many as Obama but the GOP still complains. THE GOP IS LOADED WITH HYPOCRITES!
You have it wrong…THE GOVERNMENT IS LOADED WITH HYPOCRITES!
Oh, let the man lie. It obviously gives him some kind of perverse satisfaction and fills a void in his life. I’m not worried that anyone would believe him. Are you?
If a lie is told often enough and long enough it becomes truth for those that choose not to think critically. We appear to live in an era of uncritical thinkers looking for something to hate. The lies resonate and they have fixated on the poorest and least able among us. That says more about the believers of lies than the people they hate.
I’m glad I don’t fit in that category. I never fell for the “Hope and Change” lie. I never fell for “the stimulus will keep unemployment under 8 percent” lie. I never fell for the “wave of the future is the Chevy Volt” lie. I never fell for the “Iraq is stable and can defend itself when we leave” lie. I never fell for the “In 20 years of setting in his church, I never heard anything negative come out of his mouth” lie. I never fell for the “we (Obama and Ayers) only served on a school committee together” lie. I never fell for the “no lobbyists will ever enter the White House” lie. I didn’t fall for the “there is no pork in the stimulus” lie.
I could go on and on, but what’s the use. All you people on the left are completely blind to the realities of the lies that your party spews on a daily basis. Granted, both sides skew the issues, but the Progressives are the masters of deception. And they have gotten to the point where they no longer expect you to believe them, they don’t care if you do or don’t.
LOL. “I know you are but what am I!”
And you are blinded by the greed, selfishness, misogyny and sin of the religious right. Frankly, if both parties lie I’m opting for the upbeat, generous hearted., accepting lies of the liberals. Come on over to our side EJ we have less sin and more fun than your side.
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Come on over to our side EJ we have less sin and more fun than your side.” …satan himself couldn’t have said it better.
Fun equals sin only to those people that have a desperate need for a controlling religion to give stability to their lives.. It is inconceivable to them that the rest of the world is not as dysfunctional as they are.
If nothing else…you’re entertaining. Do you ever go back and read what you post and just blush with embarrassment?
Yup and nope. But thanks for your concern.
EJ your perspective is really twisted because your side are THE KINGS OF LIES AND DECEPTION….everyday!
I don’t think the EJ’s lies carry any weight with anyone, including those who eschew critical thinking. I am particularly amused by how he has adopted pmconservative’s posting format on the letter threads. Monkey see, monkey do.
I’ve been posting that way since I started here a couple of years ago.
EJ, I can’t log on to yesterday’s conversation anymore. You will remember that you said that the world is ruled by Satan, and that human nature is inherently wicked. I replied that your idea is called the doctrine of original sin — except that “original sin” is found nowhere in the Bible. Your last post (21 hours ago) said that I should look in Genesis in the Garden of Eden story.
So here’s my reply: It’s not there — that is, Genesis never mentions “original sin.” In fact, if you read the story, the book of Genesis never says that Adam and Eve sinned. It says they disobeyed, but it does not say they sinned. And the Bible never mentions “original sin,” nor does it use your term, “inherent wickedness.”
Of course, most people don’t read the text carefully. They’ve been taught by some preacher that original sin started in the Garden of Eden, so they think the Bible says so. That’s the conventional wisdom, but it’s wrong.
Sorry to put this on today’s post, but I was at the car dealer for seven hours today while my car was being fixed, and couldn’t get back to your post until time had elapsed.
Willful disobedience is a sin. Eve willfully disobeyed God when she partook of the forbidden fruit. Adam followed her lead. They both sinned.
And it makes no difference if the actual words, “original sin” is in the Bible or not; it’s the initial act of disobedience, or sin, that is understood as the “original sin”. It’s in the 3rd chapter of Genesis. I don’t understand why you’re so hung up on this matter.
Why are you talking about original sin when you publish lies here day in and day out? You aren’t qualified to define the word “sin.”
You say it’s in Genesis, and yet Genesis never called it sin.
And the Bible never mentioned original sin. It’s not in the third chapter of Genesis or anywhere else in the Bible.
You write, “I don’t understand why you’re so hung up on this matter.” I’m simply answering your contention that human nature is inherently wicked. That’s the common wisdom of fundamentalism that you have accepted without examining it. I’m simply pointing out that for someone who claims to follow the Bible, you don’t seem to understand that many of your doctrines aren’t biblical. They’re doctrines that were developed centuries after Jesus, and became the common wisdom of the medieval Church, but are not really anything that the Bible says or that Jesus himself taught.
People on this site regularly call one another liars. That’s elementary-school childishness. I don’t call you a liar. I just say that you are wrong.
So, have you, also, figured out another burning religious question: how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
Although I agree with you, I’d prefer that we just state our position and refute the other side with facts, rather than having the following childish conversation:
“EJ, you are a liar!”
“No I’m not, you’re a liar!”
“Liar!”
“Liar!”
“No, you’re the liar!”
“No, you’re the liar.”
Sounds like a bunch of ten-year-olds.
If you agree with him, then you, too, are calling me a liar. Isn’t that against your own rule?
By the way, I don’t think you’ll find many occasions where I’ve directly called other posters liars. I have repeatedly claimed that the left wing media and the progressives lie, because they do. And I’ve admitted that both parties lie, and they do. But I try to keep from calling other posters liars, even when some of them repeatedly and emptily claim that I am a liar.
Ah, EJ takes the moral high ground, now that he has run out of imprecations to toss around.
You misunerstand my posting. I’m saying that I generally agree with most of the points TAX_CUTS_FOR_THE_RICH makes. But I criticize him or her for calling you a liar. I do not believe you are a liar. You are mistaken, and wrong. And often childish. But your constantly incorrect statements are not intentional lies. You really believe the things you say.
Maybe your right but when you’ve been told the difference, have the opportunity to check into its veracity, and then still repeats the same untruth…it’s a lie and it sure looks intentional. Aren’t you sick of the lies coming from the right. every single day? I just can’t sit back and let those lies stand as if they were true…because that’s what the right is counting on and all of us have an obligation to make sure the truth prevails not the misrepresentations and yes outright lies. I do appreciate your comments however as to trying to be more civil.
EJParsons if nothing else has shown tremendous patience and discernment in dealing with you and your constant twisting of Scripture here on this site. I for one find you tiring and completely misinformed. Original means the beginning of something, the first. Adam and Eve were the first to disobey God which was sin. It isn’t anymore complicated than that. If you think the Bible is so full of errors why do you even bother with it? I’m guessing your name doesn’t appear in the Bible, so using your logic….you don’t exist.
he cant stop doing something he isnt doing to begin with.
Ross, the Republicans in this state are 100% behind the Guv and we support his cuts. Were broke, past governors have kicked the can down the road and made things as bad as they are.
Scare tactics by the left won’t discourage that support.
Speak for yourself Mapleton. I’m a republican, voted for LePage in fact, that does not condone his actions. I am sure that I am not alone.
you are definitely not alone, even if one didnt vote for him, he is an embarrassment to the state of Maine. As a resident, I am totally embarrassed and appalled by his behavior, language and attitude….he has no respect for anyone.
I luv the guvnah! Wait and see—if he holds the legislature on target for another session, Maine will be improving greatly.
Wake up, your dreaming!
How? By berating them, bullying them, lying to them, telling them they are lazy and taking away their financial support like he has done to the middle class, working class and poor.
LePage’s governing style reminds me of the Aesop Fable of the North Wind and the South Wind who had a contest to determine the strongest. The winner would be the one that could take off the coat of the man traveling down the road . The North Wind blew, harsh and cold and strong: the man wrapped his coat tighter with every blast. The South Wind then softly blew warm air over the man and soon the coat came off.
To quote the great LePage: what planet are you from?
A couple of weeks after LePage said Maine workers are not trained for the available jobs, a national report came out that showed this problem is not unique to Maine. Across the country, there are companies looking for qualified employees that they are unable to find. The fields that LePage mentioned were virtually the same as listed on the national scale. LePage never said Maine workers are lazy. He has recognized that they are hard working people. The problem is we need people trained for different jobs–more trades and fewer liberal arts majors.
According to the most recent poverty figures, I discovered that my family is actually low-income. LePage has taken nothing from me. He has given me a tax break this year that will allow me to keep more of my money. That helps. His insurance reform may reduce my rates once they take effect. That helps.
Look, I don’t care if my coat is blown off, or coaxed off by the gentle heat. What I want is to know why the hell are you trying to get my coat off me in the first place? That’s the type of question LePage will answer for you straightforwardly.
” LePage said Maine workers are not trained for the available jobs,”
And his solution has been to threaten higher education with cuts in their funding if they didn’t come up with a plan to brow beat other agencies into coughing up enough money to fill his $225M shortfall. Really an intelligent reaction to not having enough trained workers for the jobs available.
Then he let 600 good paying high tech jobs go to Connecticut without ever asking the legislature to come up with funding for Jackson Lab or the universities to train qualified people and prevent that loss.
His other big plan for jobs is to take the burden of training from industries like logging and make the high schools do the job training in a 5th year of high school.
Face it; that munificent tax break will not send your kids to post secondary schools for courses that will prepare them for the future because your tax break is too small and LePage is decreasing post secondary educational funding so the courses they need aren’t there.
This governor is really, really good at pointing out everybody’s faults and lack of gumption andt he’s not very concerned about whether your kids are prepared for the future or not.
So be happy for your little tax break; it might buy a couple of suitcases of beer, but that’s all you are going to get from LePage.
The problem with the Governor’s cuts is they are just that…CUTS. He has an incompetent team of commissioners who are not addressing the real problem …the broken system.
If you look at DHHS all the providers have open ended contracts and there are no effective limits on charges, there are to many providers, no oversight and the expenditures are out of control. By revamping the system, cutting the WASTE, there would be no need for the Governor to CUT anything and we would have a functional system providing adequate services for those that need them.
But I guess folks are just led to believe what anyone tells them without investigating the “root cause” of the problem in the first place.
I would lots rather see snap people buy lobster for their kids than mac and cheese. Or hamburger, or fatty chicken legs, pre frozen pre packaged garbage. $6 a lb… just about the price of chocolate. Or processed sugar. I could go on all day naming junk that costs about the same per lb. and will make them unhealthy that these fools would rather see a child eat.
lobster is not a very filling meal on its own….how many other meals could one on food stamps get for the price of lobster dinner for the family?
My estimation is that a lobster (1 1/4 lb) plus a baked potato and a pint of blueberries, in season, would run a person about $10 per meal. Sure, it’s not the cheapest meal, but for the nutritional quality, you couldn’t beat it with Mac and Cheese. So, I wouldn’t say lobster every day—but once a month, sure.
Honestly, healthy food is not expensive if you are willing to do the prep work and actually cook a meal. The benefits come through better nutrition and overall health as well. If people eat junk, we end up paying for it with their medical bills later.
I am surprised no one has hit you with the “today’s families do not know how to prepare healthy meals.” No one knew how to cook worth a turd in our house, but I figured our how to throw a boneless chicken breast into a pan and boil some potatoes. It’s not rocket science. I agree with you. Sure, lobster is healthy; so is a nice cut 3 oz. piece of filet mignon. But if you are receiving assistance because you can’t afford to feed yourselves, you bet I am getting the cheaper, but as healthy, foods that cost less. I’m going to grab that boneless 97% fat free chicken breast on sale, a bag of potatoes and some frozen veggies and eat a week for the cost of that lobster dinner. Don’t forget that that 1 1/4 lb lobster has how much meat that people actually eat on it? On average, the meat actually is costing you about $14-$20/lb.
Besides, when everyone on SNAP is actually eating that lobster healthy (leaving out the butter), then it’s a good choice once in a while. You’re clogging your arteries and getting, yes, fatter, with the dipping sauce. So you’re no better off.
Lobster, potato, and blueberries — all from Maine! Delicious, and healthy too!
:-)
The wandidi is right. You can compare 1 lobster to one box of mac and cheese or one well prepared lobster meal to one well prepared mac and cheese, hot dog, burger, cheap steak,chicken meal and still come out ahead nutritionally. Lobster is good food… simple. Of course us Mainers love to sit and gorge on lobstuh and buttuh if we guttah… but as the meat part of a balanced meal you still can’t beat em.
Wow–over 27,000 women, men and teens(our children) helped by family planning in Maine. Where does this number come from? Must be from all of the contraceptives counted out at our schools without the permission of parents.
Family Planning, Planned Parenthood, National Organization of Women, and other so-called non-profits have been receiving taxpayer funding for far too long for their anti-family practices. Reduced hours at these “clinics” would mean more savings in the long run for taxpayers, but it would also mean that the immorality they are promoting could be taken from our school settings.
DEFUND THESE ORGANIZATIONS!
Wanda :
Your letter suggesting that it is good for everyone when welfare recipients to buy lobster with their food stamps is way out of line. Do you also suggest that MaineCare recipients go to the hospital emergency room as often as possible to provide income to the hospitals? When these people spend these handouts foolishly it gives them a false sense of reality. Since working taxpayers often can’t afford these luxuries then there’s no incentive for the welfare crowd to rejoin the workforce. They’ve got it better sitting at home and eat lobster. If they actually had to work for the money to buy the lobster I’m sure they’d be shopping much more wisely. We need to be teaching work ethic, not the opposite. If you want nice things you need to earn them for yourself, not expect the world to hand you them.
Hey the lobster/ER comparison is not holding up with me. First of all, a person has a set amount of money for SNAP. They have to decide how to spend it–once it is spent,the money is gone until next month. However, multiple ER trips will be covered by Maine Care with no limit. Now, according to the logic of the Maine Center for Economic Policy, and many other BDN editorialists and posters on this site, that IS a good thing for Maine’s economy–after all we get $ 2 for every $1 we spend, right? And I know hospitals would love the business—but there is this little catch where the state does not exactly keep up to date with its medical bills. So I wouldn’t count on increasing ER trips to spur the economy.
I would put my money into the lobster thing.
So you think that since they get more money each month they should strive to spend it all every month? That seems wasteful but if you want to buy me a few lobster when your funds come in than that’s great!
Are you for real here…I can buy 2 lobsters at the local pound for the price of a steak or a roast. My grandfather lived on lobster. To him it was food not a luxury. SO I guess anyone who has an EBT card should be relegated to eating Pasta and pancakes? Give it a rest.
How much actual meat is on 1-1/4 pound lobster? 4 ounces or $1.50 an ounce. Sounds like a bargain. Let them eat Lobster
Ooooh, good one. I’d give you a few more likes if I could. How about this one: if you are receiving a state-paid health insurance, you are required to have a PCP, and if that PCP is open and has openings from 8AM to 5PM, for acute issues (and we don’t have to name them all – we know colds and coughs are two of them) you are not allowed to be seen at the ER during normal business hours of your PCP? The rude remarks and hanging starts now!
And you know, I would eat more lobster if I lived at the coast – they are less expensive right off the boat. But I don’t. If I could get lobster for $3 a piece, we’d eat more.
Actually, Maine Care does require you to have a PCP and you are supposed to see the PCP. The problem is that people claim their PCP is not available when they need them so they go to the ER. Or some recipients are not establishing a PCP relationship so they just go to the ER. There should be higher co-pays for Maine Care based on income, definite co-pays for ER visits, and premiums paid based on income.
How can we best eliminate “family planning” funding and save money in the long term? Might I suggest that we also eliminate Medicaid, food stamps, LIHEAP, and the rest of the host of welfare programs that don’t benefit most of us.
I’m surprised you didn’t suggest just useing a bullet for those who need any of the welfare programs.
I’m in favor of empowering the people who “need” welfare programs by raising the bar, and saying that, as a society, we expect people to step up and provide for themselves. Fewer excuses, and more accountability.
Me too… let’s start with the corporations who ask for handouts in the millions each.
How many corporations are getting handouts in the millions each?
I can think of two, the banks, and GM, Dodge. The banks welfare equaled billions, and so did the car companies. If you do a little digging you’d get an answer you might not like, it also might bring a little light to what, and why, big money wants you, and I, to blame to poor.
Excellent suggestion. It won’t be taken. People like Real want to keep right on hating poor people and closing their eyes to corporate welfare, subsidies, loopholes, grants, low interest development loans, free government training, government assumption of pensions obligations, manipulated bankruptcies. The list is long. The willful oblivion is total.
The sad part of it is, that nobody know how to think for themselves, any more. We can go ahead, and stop them programs when there are no jobs, to speak of. Or we can do something to really make jobs. there are always going to be people who won’t work, for one reason or another. I do feel we need to do something about it, but to hack every safety net right now is mad. I just read, a post stating, won’t work for ex-amount of money because they lose benis. Why would anyone in their right mind go to work, and have less for their family.
Those were liberal giveaways. Conservatives were opposed to all of the bailouts because they were a slap in the face to Americans who pay their own way. If the liberals who are supposedly fighting for the “little guy” had told the banks and auto industry to pound sand, those expenditures wouldn’t have happened. The Democrats’ dirty secret is that as much as they like to complain about corporate welfare, they are its biggest proponents.
Good God man I don’t have the time…way too many. But just one that I am sure you will like General Electric. Obama’s friends who got back several million on tax breaks. They not only didn’t pay any tax but got a hefty return. I believe they also got some very nice contracts with the presidents help. If I wanted to research just them I could spend days and find close to a billion I would be willing to bet. I don’t care if they are Dems or Repubs they are keeping the economy in the tank.
Here! Here!
And exactly how would you go about doing this. Talk is cheap. Come up with a plan.
The plan is simple. Take away the crack, and tell them to make it on their own. They’ll either rise to the occasion, or they’ll leave. I’m tired of hearing the excuses from these people.
Good start. What’s your plan for taking away crack.
By “crack” I meant the “benefits” that they’re used to. It’s an easy process. The first of the month rolls around and you just don’t cut the check.
So how are you going to get the legislature to do vote this measure into law? When you get right down to the practicalities you really don’t understand what you are talking about. It’s fun to pretend you are the king and can simply issue a fiat. LePage thought that’s how he would run the state. Getting stuff done is messier and takes more time than either you or he understand.
If something is going to take a long time why not work on something positive like planning for the education and jobs for the future of Maine, instead of trying to hurt others.
How about eliminating your Social Security and Medicare and tax break on your mortgage and your subsidized gasoline and your kids subsidized public university tuition and your public library? I don’t need any of them and your getting them doesn’t do anything for me.
I benefit from far fewer of those programs than you might think, and I do want them all eliminated. Some, like Social Security and Medicare need to be phased out gradually to protect those who have paid so much into the system already, and since the trust still carries an impressive (although rapidly diminishing) balance, you could do it while cutting payroll taxes on workers. Social Security doesn’t seem like a bad idea when you’re only paying half the cost, but when you meet the employer share as well, it doesn’t take long to wonder whether you’ll really see any decent returns on the money going in.
So you’re OK with social Darwinism. Better hope you are really really smart, fast, aggressive, strong and totally without ethics.
Wait till Obama’s Health care goes into effect I think next year, doublling Medicare premiums.
Scary thought!
Even if it doubles it is still a bargain and cheaper than private insurance. If Medicare were extended to everybody the cost would go back down to a lower cost than at present.
I doubt it, it will probably triple if the court does not throw the Obama Health Plan out the window.
Wanda Labrecque, I would not assume that Wal Mart gets their lobsters from Maine, they tend to go for the cheapest supplier. Not the best.
Canadian. Which beats the Maine price down. Buy local and watch the documentary Walmart: the high cost of low price. (it’s on netflix) Walmart employees draw 1.5 billion in welfare SUPLEMENTAL welfare every year. They are one of the largest corporate abusers of the system there is.
Whoda thunk it? lol. Buy American, pay your fair share in taxes, and stay to hell out of ChinaMart while there is still one American worker left with a decent job.
Then boycott Walmart…buy local.
Wanda Labrecque…actually if you go into the grocery store and look at the price of Beef or Chicken you can go to the local lobster outlet and buy lobster for about the same price or less. I would say if anyone is seen buying steak or a roast with an EBT card they need to do the math here. For years Mainer’s have used lobster as a staple and to suggest that it is a luxury is an insult to our ancestors. Maybe eating at a Texas Roadhouse trying to use an EBT would be more of an insult.
but out of a two pound lobster you get what? 4 ounces of meat? its not exactly efficent to buy two pounds of lobster for 12 bucks and have to toss more than half of it.
you get minimum about 7 oz. out of a 2 lb. soft shell and about 8 out of a hard shell 2 pound.
Landslide LePage is definitely not like Julius Caesar. He is more like Romulus Agustulus (Momylos),
This is to Realmainer. you sir and or ms are full of poop!
insults are a tool of a weak mind