DEXTER, Maine — A Massachusetts man is listed Monday in fair condition at Eastern Maine Medical Center in Bangor after he accidentally shot himself in the leg.
Dexter Police Chief Jim Emerson said Paul Lalicata of Roslindale, Mass., was getting out of his side-by-side utility task vehicle near the Cambridge Road on an all terrain vehicle trail when he decided to unload his .410 shotgun on Saturday afternoon. Lalicata told police that the gun accidentally went off and it shot into his calf.
Emerson said police received the call at 4:20 p.m.
“I guess he bled pretty good,” said Emerson. “There was a lot of blood.”
Lalicata was taken by Dexter Ambulance to Mayo Regional Hospital in Dover-Foxcroft where he was stabilized and then transferred to EMMC, where he is listed in fair condition on Monday morning.
“We checked the gun. It looks like it was just a mistake on his part. [The gun] doesn’t seem to have a malfunction,” said Emerson.
410? He was very lucky it wasn’t a 12 gauge!
410 is just as powerful as a 12ga. Same velocities, same projectile weights, only different in volume of projectiles. A pointblank 410 and 12ga would will vary only by a 1/4 inch in diameter.
You must be comparing the lightest 12 to the biggest 410….
If I had to choose, I would take a .410 to the eye than a 12 to the thigh. In shotguns, the gauge is how many spheres the size of the barrel, it takes to make a pound. 12 gauge, 12 spheres, and so on. But a .410 is not a “gauge”, it is a calibre. The barrel is in the diameter of a .41 calibre, but the amount of powder, and the ball size is smaller. My girls started off on a 20 gauge at 11, because 9 times out of 10 your going to wound your small game with a .410, and never find it. Good luck to this man, though.
Yes, a 410 is a smaller diameter barrel. Muzzle velocity is the same as every other shotgun as it penetration. The only difference is the amount of projectiles. A 410 has a smaller amount but they go just as quick and carry just as much energy per projectile. A smaller barrel doesn’t mean it is weak or less deadly, just means there are less pellets.
How can a smaller, lighter projectile, have as much energy as a bigger, heavier one?
mass and velocity have a part to play
#6 shot is #6 shot, doesn’t matter if it is out of a 12ga or a 410
“was getting out of his side-by-side utility task vehicle near the
Cambridge Road on an all terrain vehicle trail when he decided to unload
his .410 shotgun ”
Wait a minute…no mention that it against the law to have a loaded firearm on an atv?
Guy was from MA, we don’t want to upset the out of state folks too much….
The guy is probably loaded $$$$$$$ and apparently being from Mass. would make him above our laws.
$$$$$$ in Roslindale? LOL! That part of Boston is one of the poorer sections, poorer than even Jamaica Plain next door to them. They are no strangers to guns, but shotguns aren’t their forte. Unregistered hand guns are a different story, though.
Some things that don’t mix well;
Drinking and driving
Vinegar and water
Yuppies and guns
vinegar and water mix fine, you might be mistaking one of them for oil
Oh yea…thanks
Vinegar and water is a necessity here in Maine.
I noticed that too. I would have to assume that he has a carry permit that is honored by the state of Maine. That’s the only way he would have been legal to carry a loaded firearm in/on a motor vehicle. I’m also wondering what he was doing in the woods with a loaded .410. I’m not 100%sure but I think the only things in season are Coyotes and Red Squirel. .410 is a big big for Red Squirel though.
.410 is perfect for red squirrel?
Given a good shot………
Rabbits
Can you get a permit to carry a loaded shotgun in your vehicle? I know you can for a hand gun but I didn’t think you could for a rifle or shotgun. That would save a lot of time while out hunting if I could legally keep my rifle loaded in the truck.
I did some looking around, and I think you’re right. Handguns are legal with a carry permit. Long guns are not.
Crap! I was hoping that I just didn’t know it was legal.
There are 410 revolvers though. The article really doesn’t specify.
Second paragraph: “decided to unload his .410 shotgun…”.
That is hardly specific when news outlets can’t identify a firearm to save their lives
I’m confused. You said “The article really doesn’t specify”
I showed you where it specified shot gun (as opposed to a pistol).
How much more specific does the media need to be? Color? Make? What?
Journalism is notoriously inaccurate with gun information so the lack of anything other than “shotgun” means that it could be anything chambered in 410 which includes handguns. It is a very old joke that every gun used in a reported on crime is an AK47. If you googled I am sure you could find the picture. There are also may other photos used in jest where the media has misidentified firearms. There is a duracoated 1911 identified as a ‘Glock 45’ in one famous picture.
My point here is that without more details it is hard to say for certain that it was a long gun. I would say the lack of details hints that it was a handgun because otherwise there would be charges for having a loaded firearm on an ATV.
Of course an AK47 is said to be used ever time someone goes postal etc.
But in this relatively inconsequential accident story, the exact make and model is superfluous. As a mechanic, I would be more curious about the ATV. But neither has any REAL bearing on the journalistic integrity of a short story in a small paper.
Add snowshoe hares to your list. He’ll be fine once he learns the cardinal rule of where not to point the muzzles of a loaded shotgun.
I had no idea. for me, after deer season it kinda just runs together until next year.
Maine and Massachusetts do NOT honor each other’s CCW permits:
http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
Yeah, I know. I was thinking maybe he might have a non-resident permit, or a Utah permit.
Oops, forget the Utah permit. Maine doesn’t honor the non-resident Utah permit. BTW, I’m glad to see someone else visits the usacarry.com website.
he was on his own land!!
he was on his own land
Mass.
Says it all doesn’t it?
Spoken like a Maniac.
Thank you.
Too much.
I always like to have a trauma kit accompany any activity that involves my guns. Just some quick clot and a few rolls of gauze.
People from Mass. should NOT be allowed to own weapons of any kind. They can’t tell a Rabbit from a Moose or a dog from a person!!!!
Not trying too defend but lightly pointing out the fact that in the last few mths ive seen a heck of a lot more cases of wrongly identified animals being shot in the woods from locals then from outside :) And some from our own law enforcement involving people. Don’t be so quick to judge……….
Why did he have a loaded shotgun on an atv??
Could be one of the .410’s of the handgun variety.
The story specified shotgun.
A .410 thompson center contender pistol is considered to be both in many circles.
And I would consider that picayune in this instance. Why doesn’t anyone want to know as much detail with the ATV? Because it doesn’t matter. I’ve read here once or twice that it was on his own land. Why didn’t the (short) article mention that? I consider that as important as the length of the barrel.
Well if it isn’t important why do you care.
LOL! I was curious why YOU was so concerned about such minutiae as the length of the barrel.
I’m a firearms enthusiast, and enjoy there use as a sport and recreation.
hide your women flat landers are back..lol
Just what we need, another “it just went off” story. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, IT didn’t do anything.
You are so right! Guns don’t do anything on their own. Too bad the mainstream media doesn’t pick up on that fact; then they could rail about ‘people control’. Come to think of it, many politicians haven’t figured it out, either. If they are that dumb, I don’t think I want to trust them with running things, do you?
Whoopsie!! and now he knows why it is illegal to have a loaded firearm in an ATV.
Just remember Maine used to be Mass. in 1818.
Some parts of Maine still are.
REMEMBER, THE ONLY TIME A MAINER SEE’S A $ 20.00 BILL IS WHEN WE BRING ONE UP FROM MASS. BE HAPPY WE STILL COME UP THERE OR YOU WOULD BE STARVING !
Just mail it next time, we don’t need anyone killed….
Lapage has already talked to our governor about becoming part of mass. again , so be good !
Only south of Waterville ‘pa.
Bring yer .410s
hey can i borrow your 410 too?
I’ll stick with my Maine friends, a .30-30, and a ten spot. You Mass. guys are even too loud in type….
He must have given someone $20.00 to get away with using capital letters on this site.
ill keep my 20 Washingtons
Yep; south of the Volvo line.
wow …
I’m guessing he thought he was a real big man with a 410. Heck that’s more than 34 times bigger than a 12!!! :)
you should see his muzzel loader!!
REMEMBER, THE ONLY TIME A MAINER SEE’S A $ 20.00 BILL IS WHEN WE BRING ONE UP FROM MASS. BE HAPPY WE STILL COME UP THERE OR YOU WOULD BE STARVING !
Wouldn’t hurt my feelings a bit if nobody from Massachusetts ever stepped foot in this state again. I have had my belly full of the Massachusetts “attitude” from a bunch of snobs.
And I even know how to write without using all capital letters too. Pretty good for a Maine hick, huh?
Oh shove off it, people in any state have similar things to say about people from “away”. Anywhere you go in the US I’d bet you can find people that refer to others from neighboring states in a negative manner. The majority of people saying those things don’t even mean it. I’m sure guys in New Hampshire have something to say about Mainers going over there to hunt on sundays, and I know that guys up here have something to say about them coming up here on any other day. No one means anything by it.
You’ve never met my brother and his pals in Hodgdon. Their attitude is one reason why I escaped “The Appalachia of the North”.
thank you!
thats funny, i got a 20.00 right here that didnt come from a mass person. i guess you “assume”..you know what that means dont you?
Better shooting himself vs. mistaking an elderly person as a deer?
First let me say i know the individual who was wounded. So i will tell you the facts. Just because he is a Mass resident this makes him a yuppie? He has spent the last 30 years hunting, fishing, snowmobiling, atving, and working his land. He allows snowmobilers through his land in fact last weekend he rented a dozer to put drainage pipes on his land( at his expense mind you) so the trails wont get washed out. He lets you hunters hunt his land and cut his trees. He is in the medical field and takes mainecare to help you less fortunate mainers. He is a mainer at heart with a Mass adress.
So you know he was on his land with the his gun. He has been cleared by the police and fish and game. I believe he was hunting rabbit. So before you Northern rednecks go blabbing your toothless mouths get the facts straight.
Signed,
A Yuppie From Massachusetts
Thank you. They don’t know Roslindale (or Mass) if he’s generically called a yuppie.
Signed,
A decidedly un-Yuppy Republican transplant to Brookline
Road hunting for squirrel…. that says it all.
Well I would just like to say I know this man very well that we even called 911 which saved his life. You all must have no lives to pick on someone that is in the hospital… Who cares where he is from?? You should all grow up !