EAST MILLINOCKET, Maine — Town leaders denied Tuesday that they had a handshake deal with Gov. Paul LePage to oversee or fund the operations of the Dolby landfill beyond this fiscal year.
Speaking for the first time about the dispute between Millinocket officials and LePage and about their own efforts to address Dolby operations — a key element of the restart of their town’s mill — Selectmen Clint Linscott and Mark Scally each related what they knew of the landfill discussions.
“What is difficult is that nobody has agreed to anything. This is all in negotiations,” Scally said Tuesday.
Scally expressed surprise that LePage was treating Dolby “like it was a done deal. The handshake only involved us saying goodbye to everyone: that it was nice to meet you and we will work on this.”
Linscott, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, said town leaders had a handshake agreement with LePage to keep the Dolby landfill going that included town workers taking on security patrols, snowplowing and other chores state leaders wanted done at the landfill.
Linscott said he would support making it a multiyear deal, but no state officials, including the governor, have sought one.
“I don’t like a multiyear deal, but I am going to do what it takes to protect these two mills and towns,” said Linscott, who succeeded Scally as the board’s chairman in November. “The mill is our lifeline. It is the last industry we have.”
Scally’s statements prompted a rebuttal Tuesday from LePage spokeswoman Adrienne Bennett, LePage senior economic adviser John Butera and Sen. Doug Thomas, R-Ripley.
Butera noted that his testimony before legislators last spring, when the LePage administration was pushing the Legislature to take ownership of the landfill, made it clear that the state would seek to get rid of its Dolby commitment as soon as possible, “but we didn’t know when that might be.”
The Legislature’s vote to take ownership of Dolby was a key element of the revitalization of the East Millinocket paper mill, restoring 216 jobs to the region’s economy.
LePage and Millinocket officials have been sparring over the landfill since Bennett said earlier this month that the state would withhold from Millinocket about $216,000 in state Sudden and Severe Impact funds because the governor believed the town had broken a handshake deal to share over many years the cost of operating the landfill.
Millinocket leaders were outraged at the claim. They said they had agreed only to a one-time $50,000 payment and LePage had lied and violated state law in an attempt to bully them out of a full payment of $720,000 in state aid, which is legally due to them as compensation for the massive devaluation of the Millinocket mill, which remains closed.
LePage authorized Sudden and Severe Impact payments of $504,000 to each of the towns for the devaluation, which Millinocket officials said was an illegal intervention into the state chain of command that governs the release of those funds.
LePage believes that Millinocket officials had overvalued their town’s paper mill for several years, calling it “highly unrealistic.” Millinocket leaders responded that the valuation was a legal agreement several years old that LePage had no business attempting to recast.
Millinocket and East Millinocket agreed to pay $50,000 each in cash or in-kind service donations, and the state $150,000, to Dolby operations, but never had a written contract outlining the deal or its duration.
On Tuesday, Linscott said that as far as he knew, state officials had last discussed the Dolby landfill with East Millinocket officials in December.
“They haven’t accepted or denied what we have offered,” Linscott said. “Negotiations are incomplete.”
East Millinocket’s selectmen cannot make a multiyear agreement unless residents vote to support it at the annual town meeting, Scally said. The next meeting is in June.
State officials had met several times with the towns’ leaders since September, the month a new investor agreed to purchase both mills, to discuss how to share operational costs of the Dolby landfill, which is in East Millinocket.
Liabilities with the landfill had scared off many prospective buyers of the mills until the Legislature agreed to assume ownership of Dolby last spring, but the bill authorizing the ownership failed to address how landfill operations would be funded.
“I don’t remember any discussion of this being a multiyear deal or a single-year deal,” Scally said.
Thomas said he recalled LePage assuring East Millinocket and Millinocket officials during a meeting several months ago that the state would get rid of the landfill as soon as possible.
Bennett pointed to language in a Sept. 20 letter from the Maine State Planning Office to the towns’ leaders praising the “partnership” they and the state had formed and thanking them for “their stated support in assisting the state” with landfill costs.
“What appears to have changed is the attitude of Millinocket officials,” Bennett said. “It went from all parties agreeing to deal with the costs associated with the landfill to an approach that seemed to be less willing to deal with the landfill expenses.”
When reached Tuesday, Millinocket Town Manager Eugene Conlogue said he found Scally’s account most credible and said the town had good reasons to change its attitude.
Conlogue produced a copy of a Oct. 4 letter he wrote in response to the Sept. 20 missive in which he said state officials were assuming, incorrectly, that the towns’ pledge to work with the state on Dolby meant that town officials agreed to share Dolby costs.
“In reading your letter, I detect an assumption that the towns are ready to go with this arrangement. We are not as yet at that point,” Conlogue wrote to the state planning office. Town leaders later agreed to a one-year, $50,000 payment for Dolby.
On Tuesday, Conlogue said in a written statement that “I respectfully suggest that the governor admits that he misunderstood what has been discussed with him and his staff and that he immediately release the additional $216,000” the state owes the town.
He said that Butera’s statements on the Dolby landfill before the Legislature came well before state leaders suggested they share Dolby’s costs, which the town is willing to do — but only for a year.
Later suggestions from LePage that the towns share Dolby profits while agreeing to assume the dump’s costs indefinitely were untenable, Conlogue said.
“The concern I have is that we have to be accountable to taxpayers and we cannot be gambling local taxpayer money for unknown and potentially huge [landfill] liabilities in the future,” Conlogue said.
“I’m not sure what to make of it,” Conlogue said of LePage’s position on Dolby. “Clearly he is disappointed, but he is disappointed about something that has never been in play.”
These “are really not negotiations,” he added. “We cannot take the risks associated with this” beyond a year.
Millinocket’s Town Council will meet Thursday to determine whether to hire counsel to sue the state. That day the legislative council is due to review a bill by Rep. Herb Clark, D-Millinocket, that seeks the Legislature’s approval of any Millinocket attempt to sue the state, which state law requires.
The Senate passed a bill Monday to appropriate $250,000 to landfill operations starting July 1 if the Appropriations Committee can find the funding in the state budget. Thomas, the bill’s co-sponsor, said LePage or someone from his administration likely would have to support the bill to guarantee its passage.
The House passed the bill on Thursday.
Millinocket leaders also will discuss rescinding their Dec. 20 vote to make a one-time $50,000 payment for landfill operations. Clark has asked the Maine Attorney General’s Office to rule on whether LePage can legally withhold the tax relief funding from Millinocket.
East Millinocket officials, meanwhile, will wait to see how the situation develops.
“We want to make this work. It is for everybody’s benefit,” Scally said.
“I think the governor did his job up here,” Linscott said in reference to the mill’s restart and the Dolby dealings. “We’re going to sit back and watch, make sure we live up to our part of the bargain.”
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She has been doing that allot lately.
It’s much more difficult for her to put her foot in her mouth if she doesn’t open it. I’m sure you can relate.
Even Lepage’s size 16 shoes can’t seem to keep his pie hole plugged.
Funny thing is Conlogue could have handled it the same way Linscott did, Clints a little smarter than to call Lepage a liar and a bully. Willing to come to a solution.
Looking to trade services that they themselves get to decide the value of.
That is clever, because Lepage needs E.M. on his side so he will not want to question their estimates.
I wonder how much of this was planned or did Lepage’s incompetence just drop this gem in their laps.
There is a standard value for any service, Hannaford pays between 20 and 30 thousand dollars a year for the parking lot in Millinocket. I would think Dolby would be equal to that. If you hired a security firm to patrol twice a day it would cost a minimum of 700.00 dollars per week. I wouldnt say East is hurting the state to bad with the pricing.
Funny how that worked out and now Millinocket’s left with one p o’ed governor.
We’ll see what East has to say once they’ve actually received their sudden and severe impact funding.
I believe they recieved it the same day Millinocket did.
All of the East Millinocket selectmen are smarter than their Millinocket peers…walked by Conlogues office the other day and it sounded like a Homer Simpson convention was going on!! Duuoh!
That’s what I was thinking. Adrienne Bennett must hate to get up in the morning. As Ricky Ricardo was famous for saying, “You got a lot of ‘splainin’ to do.”
The lesson to be learned here and never forgotten by anyone else from this day forward is that if you’re going to have discussions or deals with Mr. LePage take good notes, record if possible, and not only get everything in writing but have it signed and notarized. He simply can’t be trusted.
You need to add this edit, “Because other than that, us democrats will twist, lie, misspeak and do whatever we can to discredit the governor. It is what we are good at!!”
Why don’t we just hook him up to a lie detector for the duration of his term? Don’t let him speak in public unless he is hooked up to one.
I like your thinking here, but until we develop better battery technology for the needed 24/7 monitoring, we’d have to rely on using a power cord. The cost of running a cord to Florida and Jamaica would be more than what Maine taxpayers are paying all three LePage family members currently on the public dole combined!
Reelect Governor LePage!
Re elect governor LePage!
And let’s not forget…don’t shake his hand.
And let’s not forget…..never, EVER shake his hand.
That’s because she was trying to figure out another excuse for her boss. Unfortunately for her, no matter what she comes up with will still sound silly.
Lepage is a businessman. For him to rely on a handshake deal sounds bogus. Anybody and everybody with a business background knows how far a handshake gets you. Lepage admit your mistake and find a remedy.
That’s exactly why I don’t think it was his mistake. I don’t think he’d let a deal like this fly on a handshake. I could be wrong but I hope not !
Look to Conlogue for where it began
Exactly! Drama 24/7
I would like to see the black and white supporting all these claims. Then and only then will i believe any of this mumbo jumbo. Knowing that you have hazard in your back yard is a tough one to swallow.
As far as black and white, go to Millinocket’s site http://www.millinocket.org/ to the left and click on school funding controversy. Unless the state has other paperwork that we have not seen. This is not a signed contract, though one has to take note of the Dec. 6th, 2011 letter from DECD, 2nd page, from other tasks and responsibilites and down and form your own conclusion; not necessarily fact.
Wow, its now confirmed that East hasn’t finalized their deal yet either. So all the people who claimed in prior articles that they have “Paid their bill” are now proven wrong. Can’t completely pay a bill when in fact there is no bill to pay, nor have they spent 50k in plowing or policing yet. Surprise Surprise… LePage looking less and less creditable each day!
Funny thing is Conlogue could have handled it the same way Linscott did, Clints a little smarter than to call Lepage a liar and a bully. Willing to come to a solution.
How would Linscott have reacted had LePage inappropriately withheld $216,000 to which East Millinocket was legally entitled?
You can’t use an assessment that contains machines etc that do NOT exist in that mill!
What do machines in the mill have to do with improperly withheld funds?
The value of the mill and taxable property is one thing, including the contents of the facility is something else. You don’t pay taxes based on what the contents of your home are! Do you know which way it was taxed? Was it taxed on the facility and land or facility, land, and equipment? You don’t even know what was considered, but yet you are trying to tell us what cant and can be done.
In the same manner
I do not think Gene called him a liar, though one or some on the council did. I do not recall how many times though. You are right in the instance they could of handled it better.
Yes Gene did and so did Madore repeatedly!
I was there and I do not reall Gene saying it. I will have to get a copy of the cd, though I am do not like the idea listening to that again, it was bad enough live.
Politicians are the best liars in the world.
I guess Lepage really isn’t a politician, because only a few idiots believe his stories.
Yep, they’ll double-cross that bridge when they come to it!
I think we should back out of the whole agreement. If Millinocket can’t pony up $50K to save themselves, then they should come up with their own plan.
How can you be so blind? You have posted on other articles all along that states that Millinocket offered 50k payment for one year. Are you missing something or do you just like not seeing the facts?
“Millinocket leaders will also discuss rescinding their Dec. 20 vote to make a one-time $50,000 payment for landfill operations. East Millinocket officials, meanwhile, will wait to see how the situation develops.”
They have voted to pay 50k for a one – time payment, the state wont accept the funds.
The landfill isn’t even within the town of Millinocket, they legally have no responsibility for its upkeep.
Not when you remember that we bought this mess to save them from ruin. At that point it became theirs.
How does “we bought” means it became “theirs”?? To me we bought means who bought it is the owners and that would be every tax payer of the state of Maine, not the town of Millinocket!
Think of it as a gift. We bought it for Millinocket as a gift to lure the charcoal factory into hiring their unemployed mill workers. It shouldn’t be this hard, or expensive to give a give.
Where are the jobs in Millinocket or other significant benefits which were supposedly produced by this deal? The only town I see benefitting in any substantial manner is East Millinocket, because their tax revenue won’t be decreased quite as severely, even though they have received a larger share of the Sudden and Severe Imapct funds. Sure, a few people from Millinocket may be temporarily employed at the East Millinocket facility, but that is not sufficient motive for the taxpayers of Millinocket to pay fifty thousand dollars per annum to the state for upkeep of an out-of-town facility. Every other community in the state would feel the same way. The vast majority of people, save you and a few others, have come to this realization.
Just remember one thing… Several of the HIGHEST PAID PEOPLE IN THAT MILL LIVE IN MILLINOCKET! And just because you all fell for the BS of the ” bio coal” plant and didn’t listen or bother to do any investigating on your own about it you can’t just blame your council and town manager for the fact that Millinocket Mill will never run. See I did my investigating… see they tried to sell sole rights to other companies before Cates. See the facts are they have never built a life size machine. And the coal produced out of the match box one didn’t meet carbon standards… see I did my research and I have the facts! And the other fact Gene can’t use an assessment from 2002 when : the Coater was still there, the paper machines were still there, and all the metal to run them, and the wiring was still there. None of which are there now. LePage is not as dumb as the council Gene has been hosing for years.
Post your facts if they are indeed facts!
That’s great, but you still haven’t provided a reason for the people of Millinocket to authorize paying $50,000 per year to the state for upkeep of an out of town facility.
I will accept your thanks, Bangorian…..for my tax dollars. It’s quite obvious you have a lot of time on your hands….you have an abundant amount of posts on here. Should I hesitate to suggest that you aren’t employed and find the way to fill your idle hours is to stalk BDN articles about the Katahdin region?
Really? I bet $20 no legal precedent exists anywhere in the entire country in which a town or city is forced to assume upkeep costs of an out of town facility which was formerly owned by a corporation. That is not how business is done in this country.
I will bet you $50 that no governor will bail Millinocket out again with this attitude.
you sound just like Madore….Millinocket against East Millinocket, not neighbors but one against the other!!
It has nothing to do with Millinocket and East Millinocket rivalry for me, but equal and fair treatment for all. I truly have no stake in either mill or the landfill. What I am not in agreeance with is the idea Millinocket should be required to pay yearly upkeep on a facility which is not within its town limits. A corporation used the Dolby landfill, not the town, therefore there is no legal obligation for any sustained upkeep.
Hey Carlton look at your map again… it’s not in East Millinocket either!
Ok, so I just want to get this straight. It’s not in Millinocket….it’s not in East Millinocket…ok,, so that leaves just Dolby. Who the heck is in charge of Dolby?
The county, it’s an unorganized territory.
U need to learn how to read a map the East Millinocket town line is near the house after motel so it is in
East…..
The landfill is located in East Millinocket. The only one disputing this fact is you. You accuse everyone else on here of not having their facts straight, but this is a simple one to verify and you still don’t have it straight.
How can this be? In earlier post people have claimed that East gave land surrounding the landfill to the state. Now if the landfill is not in the town of East how can the land around it belong to the town of East which they say has been donated to the state? Are we getting more lies and opinionated statements again??
Actually I did, and the so-called ‘Dolby’ landfill is not in Dolby at all. It is clearly within the town limits of East Millinocket.
Some of those folks have been spoon fed their whole lives but the other folks in town shouldn’t have to suffer because of it !
This article is about East, not sure whether they agreed or didn’t agree.
I wouldn’t touch his hand either.
Good luck with your roads Millinocket… my guess is dirt will be better in a few years…
No “Open for Business” sign for Millinocket…
What does Millinocket roads have to do with this article?
In these hard economic times the state had no business assuming responsibility of this landfill.Our great grand children will be paying for this mess . And how many jobs were actually created?Private business should be just that . The mills should have been made to sink or swim on their own.the new owners of the mills were given a sweet heart deal. And again the hard working people of this state of Maine are left to pick up the tab!!
This was a deliberate extension of corporate welfare that stinks to high heaven. None of the principals involved will acknowledge those facts, or accept any responsibility for crafting such a base betrayal of the state taxpayers. What we are witnessing is the recriminations of failed alchemists and political necromancers and hypocrites who have saddled generations of taxpayers in a foredoomed attempt to turn back time, and make ice cream out of s–t!
Anyone notice that Paulie has a way of not putting his name to anything that he’s supposed to be responsible for ? And I feel for Adrienne. She’s getting more time in front of the press than Romney or Santorum. and she’s not even getting decent billing for it.
You’ve got to respect this lady for doing the job she’s doing. I’d be willing to bet there isn’t a big list of volunteers for her job ! I think she should be praised for her courage and hard work.
Must be a relative out there……………
I don’t have much respect for her. She knew exactly what she was getting into when she signed on with LePage. It is NOT the job of a spokesperson to lie or obfuscate for the boss.
Does anyone know anything about what went on there? Or, was everybody stoned?
One of those councilors is ALWAYS stoned!
Do you have any proof???
Really! Seems where your a person of facts, I will assume that you and him are outback before the meetings puffing on a joint? Only way for you to know by facts is for yourself to be right there when it takes place.
Right, because the drunk councilors from your community have the moral ground.
The Millinocket union mentality running the town.( not to be mistaken with East Millinocket).. Next time you need help I’m hoping the State levels your mill and turns the lots into a cassela landfill.. very ungrateful clan they are
Listen goliath, because you are no david. Leave the town of East Millinocket out of the association with Millinocket. East has kept its head held high and been very grateful to the great state of Maine in this unfortunate situation that Bookfield(goliath) and the Baldacci admin brought on(seperating the hydro from paper mills). They have slashed their budgets, laid people off and are reading themselves for the next shoe to drop. So we the people of East Millinocket are not ungrateful.
I will edit now…
Seems to be some back peddling. Interesting after East got its money, now all of a sudden they say there was no agreemnt, or as the article says “We;re going to sit back and watch, make sure we live up to our part of the bargain.” Interesting.
While I agree with 90% of what you wrote I choke on the layed off people because frankly there were no layoffs.
{{The handshake only involved us saying goodbye to everyone: that it was nice to meet you and we will work on this.”}}
Never-Ever –Ever–Forever–Under any circumstances ,
Shake hands with the Devil!
LePage was in a fraternity at Husson right? Maybe it was a double secret handshake.
When I read this morning that Mr LePage was trying to work out operation of the landfill with independent companies I wondered why the sudden shift in tactics. Meanwhile the legilature is passing a funding bill to operate the landfill and no whining from the Blaine House. Now the other shoe drops. East Millinocket confirms what Millinocket has been saying all along ” there is and was never a deal to fund operation of the landfill.
Suppose Mr LePage will live up to the State’s obligation now and release the remainder of the monies to Millinocket ? At least that deal is real and on paper. Pony up Mr LePage the gig is up.
Read the last paragraph of the article.
The landfill was going out to bid from day one. This is not new.
LePage is proof that education is not a cure all. On paper he’s a gifted , talented man. In real life he has little to nothing to offer. He has an odor of hate that he can’t get rid of. Very sad really.
Honor, dignity, and empathy are difficult to learn without a family. You really can’t learn em in school and they are difficult to put on paper. They’re just something that becomes apparent to others via behavioral observations. Interestingly they are also characteristics that most psychopaths tend to have in short supply.
Reelect Governor LePage!
Has anyone on this board ever done any business with the State of Maine?I have. Everything and I mean everything is in writing. The amount of paper involved in a simple transaction is amazing. Anyone who is buying into the “handshake” agreement is out of their minds. The State simply does not do business this way and neither should any one.
EXACTLY and all you need to do is go back and read the articles in the BDN where it said sooo many times the towns would run the landfill and re-coop their costs by taking in out of town trash like the landfill DOWNSTATE! That is why the wicked witch politician didn’t want the bill passed for the State taking the mill from the last crooks. BECAUSE it would mean a cut in revenue to the dump in HER AREA!!
Too bad you didn’t direct some of your venom to the real enemy–the “crooks” that got away with all the money & the hydro system and left…..and “forgot” about the landfill. In all your perfectionism and your rants, why don’t you take on a crusade for accountability…to be applied to something other than the town of Millinocket.
Wah wah wah I think it’s a side effect of drinking the Millinocket kool aid… it’s always someone else’s fault. Look your council can’t even get along with the two or three business owners in town now! Look your council can’t even get along with their own Chamber of Commerce! Look your council can’t even get along with your own school board! ( Ok well that one I can understand! ) Your council can’t get along with your Water Company! Your council can’t get along with Quimby! ( Ok I’ll give ya that one! ) Your council can’t get along with LURC! Your council can’t get along with the State! Your council can’t get along with the Governor! Do you see a pattern here ?
Greed isn’t typically a redneck trait; except in Millinocket. What kind of folks live there still? I guess only the ones too lazy or scared to seek their fortune elsewhere. Sounds like East Millinocket folks are smarter; they must have a better school system.
what gives you, and your 7 friends who “liked” your comment the right to talk that way?
Really????
Reality real world and we don’t drink Conologue Kool Aid? Oh and we sure don’t drink Dr. Smith Kool Aid! That ought to about do it!
It’s too bad you have so much hatred for your neighbors.
School system is about 2 steps on a stair case higher. We have college prep classes, we have AP classes, and we spend money on education instead of two boilers in a town that doesn’t have enough kids to fill it’s smallest school with k-12! Two steps above the toilet is still pretty smelly at times!!
Yes, and you have to put at least 3.2 million into your H.S., and from what I hear as high as 7 million. Now how old are your boilers? I did hear that Medway could put all their kids in Medway Middle School though. I noticed through the years, you have had quite a few teachers from Millinocket at Schenck.
Why don’t you worry about your own school and town?
And that is why your School is falling apart!!! Again you need to worry about your own town and School!! If Millinocket needs your feed back they will ask….. But don’t quit your day job oops I forgot you don’t have own!!!
Apparently you have neglected to understand the facts I showed you in past post. Do we really need to pick you statement apart again. Look at the state test scores, look at what you offer and how your students test. You offer AP courses but yet you don’t test any better. Yes we are putting a new boiler in out school, we have spent money to keep out school up to date. What does East have? AP Courses and 3.2 million in needed repairs.
I learned calculus in ninth grade at Stearns. In a college physics class provided by Stearns I built a bridge out of Elmer’s glue and matchsticks which weighed two ounces and supported 165 pounds. The problem isn’t the standard of education in schools, but a lack of decent parenting. Few parents teach their children to enjoy learning from birth.
“What kind of folks live there still?”
Well educated individuals who don’t use intolerance and prejudice to cause division.
The bottom line of this mess is that the state government never should have put the taxpayers of Maine on the hook to bail out a dying industry in a dead area. My guess is t some point there will be a very expensive clean up that needs to take place due to the landfills proximity to water, and it will cost more than the jobs produced. If it wasn’t going to end up costing tax dollars this would be comical. Moron governor and even dumber redneck town council doing battle.
More websterisms from the gov. He wouldn’t know the truth if…. Well, he just wouldn’t. Bet Dale gets to breathe a lot fresher air.
Why would the town of East Millinocket, finally comment on this issue? Are they trying to sabotage the bill before the Legislature? I wonder if some of their money would of been held back if this came out before the S & S money was received.
To set the facts straight the Town Manager did NOT call Lepage a Liar or anything like that, and now what we have been saying all along has been proven by this article…..no deal has ever been brokered and ONLY MILLINOCKET has authorized $50,000 cash one time to the State of Maine and they have never taken us up on it. We were asked to step back and let the State work the deal…..we did……we were asked to keep it out of the press…..we did……we did everything the GOV asked except get into a long term deal in the Operation of this landfill that isn’t even in our town. So then the GOV goes to the PRESS and says we were not cooperating well that is BS. Thank you East Selectmen for finally coming out and backing up what we knew all along. BTW we have tabeled the offer just in case the GOV wants the $50,000 and to this day still no reply!!Follow the letter of the law and pay up…..its that easy!!!
John, I don’t like to agree with you, though your right the town manager did not call the Gov. a liar. But, he was called a liar or the council say he lied, from the council. . As to the paperwork Sept. 20th, 2011 SPO the last paragraph. I believe this was before Cate Street signed the papers. Seems everyone talks about the October 4th reply. One also has to look on December 6th, 2011, the last task it talks about annual help. The last paragraph states “Please let me know fi the above correctly reflects your recollection of what was discussed and agreed upon so that we may procceed further on these offers of assistance. If not, contact me so we can clarify it. Thank you again for taking the time to meet and assist un in managing this facility. George C. Gervais. Then comes the council order. I do not see any corresponance saying the Town of Millinocket and the Gov. discussed any clarification as to the Dec 6th letter fro DECD. I agree East should of come out before this, but it is poor timing, considering we do not know what the Gov. will do with the bill. Especially now.
With all due respect, the council said that LePage lied. They did not call him a liar. I am trying to be exact in my terms and a search of all the articles in the newspaper’s electronic library fails to reveal the presence of the word “liar” in any of my stories on this issue.
Then saying someone lied, would not be calling him a liar? Interesting hypothesi. I will have to review the tape. In regards to lied or a liar it would tend to be somewhat symantics, in regards to the meeting itself not in the articles.
Just watch the tape on KAT… the word liar was used repeatedly and not just by Madore!
maybe there’s no other word that describes the behavior…if it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck….it’s a……(I’ll resist the urge to fill that blank with another mammal)
I guess that slick nick sambidies just embellished a bit then? Duoh!
Thanks for trying to give some facts. It’s sad to see all the misinformation. There are many who don’t want to be confused by the facts, they just want to be full of venom. That’s their choice but I’d like to think there are some who would still like to use this Disqus to “discuss” the many important issues of today, and maybe even be open minded enough to learn something, not to attack everyone…..
The Great, Honorable, Saintly, Godlike, Righteous, “Man of the People”, lie ? I can’t believe it ! Say it’s not so.
Whom do you mean?
There is only one man that fits that desciption and lies. You take a guess who ! One Clue…. He represents 38% of Mainers
“I think the governor did his job up here,” Linscott said in reference to the mill’s restart and the Dolby dealings. “We’re going to sit back and watch, make sure we live up to our part of the bargain.”
If their was no agreemnt, then how can you live up to your part of the bargain?
Bold Face Lie are the words I used. If you want to know what was said the Lincoln News/B.Brown and KAT TV.
why are they not letting that company haul it to canada like before the mill went down