Vote Rector

Democrats have targeted several Republican Maine Senate and House members this year because, they say, those legislators support Gov. Paul LePage and, by inference, do not listen to their constituents. Apparently that is a crime for which a legislator should be voted out of office, while a history of supporting all issues presented by former governor John Baldacci and voting lockstep with the wishes of the Democratic leadership is a reason to elect someone to a office.

One of those targeted by Democrats is Sen. Chris Rector of Thomaston, a free-thinking, hardworking legislator who is well known for listening to one and all in his district and on several issues has disagreed with LePage. I want someone in Augusta who listens to the people, not someone who answers to the strong-arm tactics of the Democratic caucus. That is why I will be voting for Rector in November.

Helen A. Shaw

Rockport

Two choices in 2012

We want a president who will uphold the constitutional functions of government. President Barack Obama’s record shows that he has upheld these Constitutionally-mandated government functions:

“Establish justice” by strengthening equal opportunity and protection for all.

“Promote general welfare” by saving the auto industry, creating 4.5 million jobs, signing health care and banking reform, protecting Social Security and Medicare, energy independence, proposing a fairer tax system and tax breaks to industries bringing jobs and protecting the environment.

“Provide for the common defense.” Obama has kept the United States the strongest nation militarily. He stopped the war in Iraq and is starting to withdraw from Afghanistan. Thanks to his leadership, most top leaders of al-Qaida are now dead.

Republican challenger Mitt Romney’s proposals show a different philosophy:

“Establish justice.” Romney does not support Roe v. Wade, does not support marriage equality, wants self-deportation of illegal immigrants and backed anti-union laws in Ohio.

“Promote general welfare.” Romney’s plan would reduce taxes for the wealthiest plus add $5 trillion to the federal debt. He said “I like firing people,” and “don’t stop the foreclosure process.” He stated he would repeal the health care and banking reform laws and would not have lent government money to the auto industry. He wants to cancel the wind energy tax credit but keep oil subsidies. Cut education, social service, Medicaid and Medicare spending while maintaining tax loopholes for wealthiest.

“Provide for the common defense.” He proposes growth in the defense budget, increasing troop levels and Navy ships for yesterday’s threats.

We will be proudly voting for Obama.

Phil and Pam Person

Orland

Climate data

An OpEd in BDN’s Aug. 7 edition by James Hansen reports that the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies has concluded that climate change is indeed causing the extreme weather occurring over the past few decades. Environment Maine’s report in the Aug.1 edition also discusses the “extreme” weather in the United States.

Wildfires are raging in the west, drought plagues the south and heat waves have taken lives in our East Coast as well as in Europe.

Maine has remained relatively cool and wet compared to the rest of the country this summer, but we are rated as the eighth-fastest warming state in the country by the National Climate Data Center.

Under the Clean Air Act, the Environmental Protection Agency is charged with protecting public health from dangerous air pollution. One way to achieve this is to set standards to limit carbon and other global warming pollutants.

This past March, the EPA took its first steps to limit carbon pollution from industrial sources by proposing the Carbon Pollution Standard for New Power Plants. Ensuring that newly constructed power plants are using the most advanced technology to limit carbon emissions is critical. Over 2.8 million Americans have submitted comments to the EPA in support of this carbon standard.

I urge Congress to quit stalling and to implement this important standard. Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins could serve their constituents well by voting to support these new initiatives.

Al Larson

Orono

Lobster price fixing

Despite reporting in the BDN and other Maine media, the glut of soft-shell lobsters that is creating a crisis in Maine’s lobster industry does not reflect inadequate market demand but inadequate processing capacity. This, in turn, reflects monopoly power that Canadian processors exercise over the industry.

They control access to the market. They have worked to preclude a processing industry in Maine. They have depressed the price of lobster in Maine. Now they are taking advantage of that depressed price to buy cheap shedders from Maine at the expense of Canadian lobstermen.

The recent “agreement” in Canada to establish minimum prices for soft-shells is indicative of price fixing that has become the norm in the lobster industry. When Maine lobstermen attempt to organize again, however, it is they, not the Canadian processors, whom our own Department of Marine Resources threatens with legal action.

The question we should ask is why anyone in Maine wants to collude with this monopoly at the expense of Maine’s economy. Is it because there are those in Maine who benefit from the status quo, even when it impoverishes Maine people?

Tony Brinkley

Bangor

Adults can help

The classic profile of a sex offender can be seen in the person of Robert Carlson. Fitting seamlessly into the community, wearing a clerical collar, gaining trust and access to victims, all carefully managed by him for many years.

Kudos to the courageous victims of Carlson’s sexual abuse who have come forward to tell their stories. Those who were allegedly abused by Carlson, Sandusky and many others are unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg. Like the portion of the iceberg that remains hidden under the water, other victims’ abuse by their perpetrators may never come to the surface, and they suffer in silence. Will the recent disclosures give these individuals courage as well?

Maybe parents of young children will use these disclosures as teachable moments. No child is immune from sexual abuse. Children are not too young to learn about touching that is OK and touching that is not OK. Children can be told that it is safe to tell about not-OK touches, even if the person is a family member, teacher, priest, neighbor or babysitter who says, “Don’t tell.”

Parents and other adults can be alert to the grooming process too, whereby an adult singles out one child for special attention. Such grooming actions can occur in any setting where children are present. Children cannot stop sexual abuse, but the adults who care about them can and must.

Kathy W. Walker

Hampden

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81 Comments

  1.   Mr. Larson, how much hotter must it get before the climate change denialists accept reality?  How many more denialists like Dr. Richard Muller must change their opinions before the remaining denialists accept reality?  Will the denialists be like the frog slowly boiling in a heated   pot, oblivious to the reality they are helping to create until it is too late?  Let us hope not, but the current state of the Republican Party causes me to fear for the future.

    1. Every 4 years China puts on line the entire coal generated output of the US and you, a liberal, boil it down to a republican or democratic party issue.   LMFAO. 
      If you were truly concerned about global warming,  as an issue, I would like to think that you would focus your sites on real causes and not politics.  It’s this type of imbecilic liberal thinking that causes me to fear for the future.  You’ll happily shut down the US while the Chineses flourish ands all the while blame the republicans.

      1. China is fluorishing, if in fact it is, because conservative business men  like Romney and conservative pundits like yourself, have sent our manufacturing jobs to them.  Yay Wal-Mart!

        1. I think the unions were complicit with the flight of manufacturing.  Tough to pay someone $40 an hour with benefits to perform tasks that require little training or skills.  Onerous environmental regulations have a way of stifling job growth as well.  I’m sure you would be in favor of job crippling tariffs as most leftists are

          1. And you are judgemental like most presumtpious know-it-alls. Too bad you’re not open to intelligent conversation. You have a lot in common with the governor. Btw, I’ve never known 1 union member to get $40 / hr. with bennies.

          2. The reason you know of no one getting $40 an hour is probably due to the fact that you may have never left the state.  There are union workers hauling trash that wouldn’t get out of bed for $40 an hour.  They work in the big cities.

          3. I think you’re inventing your own “facts.”  Just ’cause Rush Limbaugh or some other talk show host says it doesn’t make it true.

          4. Look at what a NYC sanitation worker earns.  My neighbor is a NYC teacher who earns upwards of $80K a year.  Yes, the backwaters of Maine is like Louisiana in terms of pay but if you expand your horizons you’ll see what unions pay in the rest of the country..

      2. If you are saying that all of us, regardless of party affiliation, should be concerned about climate change, then I agree with you.  The livability of our planet should not be a partisan issue.  An article on p. C6 of the BDN print edition says that July was “the hottest month ever recorded in the lower 48 states, eclipsing the previous record set in the Dust Bowl years of the 1930s.”  Even while Maine is less hot than most of the rest of the nation, it’s been uncomfortably hot much of the summer.  People with respiratory problems (such as my wife) are having a particularly difficult summer.

      3.   The ad hominem attack is a sign that you secretly know you are losing the argument.
          The Chinese will bargain with us once we let them know we have left the fantasy land of climate change denialism.  They face a similar risk of coastal flooding and a similar benefit of manufacturing green technology.  We also have the ability to put teeth into climate change treaties, such as tariffs on products made with carbon-based energy.
          However, we must reject the silly notion that climate change is a hoax.  The perpetrators of that notion, sadly, are all members of the same party.  

        1. I’m only arguing that what is a real crisis is being boiled down to politics by you.  If you really cared about the plight of the planet you would not be focusing on political trivialities.  No ad hominem attacks on you, just attacks on imbecilic ideas and thinking.

          1.   “Imbecilic” is not an ad hominem attack?  
              Meaningful movement on global warming requires a political class willing to engage and motivate the nation’s voters.  Politics is the primary way America has begun to resolve the crises it has faced: Lincoln’s election finally moved the nation to deal with slavery; FDR’s election moved the nation to reform capitalism.  To think that politics can be divorced from the making of public policy is a type of magical thinking I would discourage.

  2. Helen Shaw’s point re Sen. Rector may indeed be a good one, but I will be voting against my Sen., Nichi Farnum, because she was among the strongest proponents of depriving would-be voters of the long-time opportunity to register and vote on the same day. The fact that many of Bangor and nearby constituents are students at Husson, UMaine-Augusta-Bangor, and other area colleges is no accident, for she, like her Republican counterparts in Maine and elsewhere, worked hard to try to reduce the number of preponderantly Democratic voters. I can think of little else that would justify her replacement than this effort to undermine a same-day voter registration process that had worked fine for 38 years. Yes, the legislation pushed for by Sen. Farnum was overturned, thankfully, by a voter referendum. But this throwback to the efforts by whites in the South to deprive African Americans of the right to vote will come back, rest assured, if Sen. Farnum returns to the State Senate. She must be defeated. So some things really do matter, Helen Shaw, in a democracy.

  3. Helen Shaw

    What has LePage and the GOP done for Maine?

    Got LePage’s daughter and BIL fine state jobs?

    Legalized fireworks?  

    Gave away $300,000 for Cianbro’s East-West highway “study”  – a project that will seize thousands of acres of land from private landowners – for a private toll highway?

    Gave Jack DeCoster back his goodies?

    Voter suppression anyone?   Why can’t Charlie Summers print up enough voter registration cards to go around?

    Deprive thousands of Maine citizens of health insurance?

    Handed the health insurance industry the keys to the Candy Store?

    Waste taxpayer money on a stupid challenge to the Affordable Healthcare Act?

    The list goes on…

    Throw the GOP out this November.

    Yessah

    1. Handing the health insurance industry the keys to the Candy Store was done by Comrade O’Bama forcing every American to buy insurance from those evil companies.  I really hope those ceo’s get huge bonus’s for all the business Comrade O’Bama has given them.
      No one is depriving anyone from going out and buying insurance.

      1. Who first came up with the ‘individual mandate?’ If you guessed right-wing think tank The Heritage Foundation, you are right! Who first instituted that sort of plan in the US? If you guessed Mitt Romney, fmr Gov. of Massachusetts, you are right again! If you are mad about the president passing the only plan that he could have gotten through the House and Senate, the very same plan that was created and instituted by Republicans but weren’t mad when they did it, you are a hypocrite of the highest order.

        1. You are correct that the first installment of gifts to the insurance ceo’s came from Mitt.  However, this is insignificant compared to the gifts lavished on the health insurance industry by Comrade O”Bama and his minions in congress.  Since Comrade O’Bama owned both houses he could have gotten anything passed, he didn’t need a single republican vote.  Remember all those special side deals and bribes?

          1. You are apparently confusing President Barak Obama with some Irishman — apparently named O’Bama (Comrade Kevin Patrick O’Bama of the IRA?).

  4. Phil
    and Pam Person – I guess that in the political arena a half-truth is better than
    no truth at all. But, for me, I prefer the whole truth. Let me help you out
    with your half truths:

     

    Barack
    Obama:

    “Saving
    the auto industry” Actually, the auto bailout did much more for the auto unions
    than it did for the consumer or the non-union members. 26 billion of the
    bailout has been written off by the government, helping make us all think that
    GM has paid our money back when they haven’t. Also, GM is making millions of
    dollars in sub-prime loans, producing high-priced, government subsidized failures
    like the Chevy Volt, sending jobs overseas, and conducting an ad campaign in
    foreign nations.

    “Creating
    4.5 million jobs” But, when you subtract the jobs that have been lost under
    Obama, he is still in the negative column. And that’s his fault, not Bush’s.

    “Signing
    health care and banking reform” Obamacare is unsustainable, and the banking
    reform is just a ploy to take the focus off of the Congressmen that caused the
    banking crisis in the first place.

    “Protecting
    SS and Medicare” When Obamacare is fully implemented, Medicare will essentially
    be gutted as they transition it to Obamacare. It will fail, and hundreds of
    thousands of elderly will be left scrambling for health care.

    “Energy
    independence” Don’t know where you got that one, but Obama has made it almost
    impossible to drill for new oil, dig for coal, or build nuclear plants or power
    dams. I hope you’re not referring to the failed solar and wind energy
    incentives.

    “Obama
    has kept the US the strongest nation militarily” I guess you have no connection
    with anyone in the military. It ain’t so.

    “He
    stopped the war in Iraq” No, he followed the timeline set in place by President
    Bush.

    “starting
    to withdraw from Afghanistan” Since Obama took office, more of our troops have
    died in Afghanistan than they did in all the time prior to his taking office.
    But, the mainstream media won’t report these deaths because it might make Obama
    look bad.

    “most
    top leaders of al-Qaida are now dead” The vast majority of those top leaders
    were taken out under Bush. Obama is credited for Bin laden and a hand full
    more, but Bush took out hundreds.

    I’ll
    hold comments on your Romney bashing. You got most of them right, and that’s why
    he’s going to win come November.

    1. “Creating4.5 million jobs” But, when you subtract the jobs that have been lost underObama, he is still in the negative column. And that’s his fault, not Bush’s.”

      When Obama took the oath of office the country was losing 750,000 a month, all of which were Bush’s fault.  When an economy the size of the US is losing jobs at 750,000 a month it takes time to stop the job loss and start the job creation.  You can say that it is Obama’s fault all you want but anyone with any understanding of economics knows that all the jobs lost in the beginning of Obama’s term were the responsibility of GW Bush and the failed Republican economic theory.

      As for the rest of the post, you are just as wrong on all points.

      1. You seem to forget that the Dems were in control of both houses of Congress during the last two years of the Bush administration, and that they passed every spending bill that they saw. You also forgot that it’s Congress that handles the spending and the legislation that effects the job market. So, based on that, even though Bush was the President, much of the blame for the decline can be pinned on the Democratically controlled Congress.

        In other words, Obama’s buddies in his party helped cause the problems he inherited and can’t seem to overcome. 

        As for the rest of my post, I’m spot on.

        1. EJ, polls suggest that most likely voters have already made up their minds about the presidential race.  Most people are not persuadable.  Only a very small percentage of likely voters might be persuaded, and most of them aren’t interested in this discussion right now (and they try to tune out the political commercials).  They’ll probably watch the debates in the fall and then decide.
          You declare your own post to be “spot on.”  That’s your opinion.
          I imagine you’re not persuadable, and neither are Phil and Pam Person, nor am I.  We’ll see what happens on election day.

    2. I must say I’m mystified. Where in hell do you get all this crazy information from? Would you please give us your sources so we can verify them. I’m thinking Faux News but I could be wrong . Please set me straight if I am wrong.

      1. You are wrong. But that’s no surprise. 

        I get my information from many different sources. I don’t restrict myself to one side or the other. By the way, you should check out the things I wrote, because they are all true. You might learn something.

        1. You avoided  my question. I asked you to give us the sources of your information and your answer is many different sources. How Romney like of you to dodge the question. Give us the names of those different sources. Politifact? Fact check.org?  What? I checked out the things you wrote and they are blatently untrue, and I hold out little hope of you learning anything that doesn’t fit your idealogical point of view.

          1. EJ has his own set of facts and any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental.  You are wasting your time trying to get sources from him as he has none, he just makes them up like most  of the right.  I would guess he still does not believe Obama is an American, that he was born in some foreign country, it may be that he believes Hawaii is a foreign country, who knows.   

    3. There is so much half-information here, it is hard to know where to begin. President Obama is a moderate Democrat, somewhat to the right of Bill Clinton, who has been implementing much of the Bush foreign policy with a finesse the Bush Administration lacked, who implemented a healthcare plan that duplicates in most respects what Romney implemented in Massachusetts, who favors social security and medicare in ways that may make it affordable . . . I always wonder at the vehemence with which his adversaries oppose him. It goes way beyond the boundaries of reasonable opposition and it relies on myths instead of facts. Obama is not even particularly liberal. He did make the mistake of imagining he could negotiate a bipartisan climate in Washington? When President Bush was in office, I tried to remember that he represented the choice of millions of Americans and should be respected as their choice. I try to remember that when I try to work with the LePage administration.  I wonder why it is so hard to afford President Obama and those who support him similar respect?

      1. Moderate Democrat? Not even close.

        He kept with Bush’s foreign policy because it works.

        He followed the Bush play-book to get bin laden, because it worked.

        He kept the Bush tax cuts in place because they work.

        He kept Guantanamo open because it works.

        He took Romney’s healthcare idea, because it worked, and ruined it.

        I respect the office of the President, and I would protect the President, no matter what party he or she is from. But I don’t have to support his anti-American policies or agree with his bankrupting agenda. 

        1. To say that the policies are anti-American is to say that the 50% of Americans who support him are anti-American as well. That’s just silly. What in your mind has Obama done that is remotely radical. One could say with respect to Bush policies that he made many of them work? As for the Affordable Healthcare Act, how could you possibly know as yet whether anything is ruined or not? So little of it has happened as yet.

          1. Some of the Americans supporting Obama ARE anti-American.  We get examples of that ever day here on these comments. 

            Most Obama supporters are not anti-American.  Most of them are ignorant however. 

            (By the way, ignorant does NOT mean stupid.  It means uneducated.)

          2. Obama passed the largest entitlement program in our lifetime under a party-line “budget-reconcilation” vote, based upon forcing Americans to purchase health insurance, all the while proclaiming it was not a tax, but only too happy to accept Justice Roberts’ verdict that it must be a tax or be considered unconstitutional.

            He has near completely stopped border enforcement in order to allow illegals to infiltrate this country, preferably voting early and often as they like to do in Chicago.

            He has driven up more debt than all previous presidents combined.

            He has repeatedly apologized to other countries for America’s leadership, and rejects the notion of American exceptionalism.

            He put in place the most radical leftist ever to occupy the US Attorney General’s office. Holder is in contempt of Congress and should be tried for treason. If only we could see all the Fast and Furious documents he is withholding, Obama would be toast in November.

            He stripped a highly effective welfare reform law of its fundamental work requirements by Executive Order, a move that many legal scholars consider illegal.

            He appointed a couple of leftist loons to the Supreme Court. Kagan was involved with putting Obamacare together while serving as O’s Solicitor General, and should have recused herself from voting on Ocare, but of course, did not. And as for the “Wise Latina”, her leftist record speaks for itself, in curse words.

            Need anymore clarification, Tony?

          3. Your comment above is filled with complete distortions and outright lies…… no wonder you are so confused.

  5. Al Larson – The climate changes. It has cycles that can last for decades or even centuries. We’re in a cycle (of course, we’re always in one cycle or another). It is not man-made, and cannot be changed no matter what policies are implemented or how much money is stolen from the people. It’s something that we just have to live with, so live with it.

    1. Of course there are natural cycles to the climate. The  human population is at 7 billion and steaming forward, it is naive to think that man and all his industrialization is not having an effect on the climate cycles. Man has adversely effected everything he has touch on this earth and the climate is no different.

      1. That’s all right. When the one-world government is in place, they’ll liquidate a few billion for the sake of the survival of mankind. Mass sterilizations, elderly mercy killings, handicapped eliminated, and the poor removed. Oh, and those dastardly trouble making Christians will have to go, too.

        1. Don’t feel bad, EJ.  I’m an outspoken Catholic AND disabled.  My chances of surviving the NWO are probably much less than the chances for an unborn black baby whose mother lives on the same block as a Planned Parenthood clinic.  Or is it Banned Parenthood?  Planned Barrenhood maybe?  Anyway, I’m sure you get the drift.

          1. Wow.  I didn’t realize that both you and EJP were so much into conspiracy theories (that’s gliding the lily) or even paranoid.  Definitely hyperbolic. What’s the source of this wild propaganda?

        2. Isn’t this what Gov. LePage is accomplishing by advocating cutting assistance to the needy programs? 

           One world government?  You deny global warming theory because you think it is a ploy to take over the world?  I believe your paronoia is unfounded.  Basing your belief on an unreasonable / unprovable assumption   is a difficult road to drive.  It makes you come across as delusional, regulated by your personnal assumptions and not by logic.

          No, christians will not have to go.  Most are reasonable and kind people.  Those that preach damnation are not worshiping a very loving god.  Those that think that other humans are not worthy of equal rights because they do not adhere to your notions of christly ‘love’  are not really christians at all: they are no better than the worst among us.

    2. I see you still haven’t read Dr. Richard Muller’s turnabout in denying climate change once he reviewed all the evidence.  Continue living in a fact-free world if you choose.  I just hope for your sake that you don’t have grandchildren, as they will suffer for your willful blindness.

      1. People change their minds all the time. Regardless, it doesn’t make any difference which side of the fence one is on, all the money in the world wouldn’t change a thing, and the alarmists know that. They just want more control and power.

        1. As Lincoln said, “As we face problems anew, we must think anew.”  A willingness to be guided by hard facts has always been the hallmark of the American political system.
            The notion that environmentalists want “more control and power” flies in the face of reality.  Do you really contend that Exxon-Mobil, with its enormous wealth, has less power than Greenpeace, which has trouble meeting its annual budget?  
            Money talks.  It has bought one party and rented substantial numbers of politicians in the other party.  

        2. You’ve bought into the big-money corporate propaganda — the oil, coal and gas people don’t want their quarterly profits challenged, and so they’ve got you thinking that we can spew junk into the air forever without any effect.  Yes, the big money boys who you listen to want to hang on to their control and power and wealth, and you’re helping them do that.

      2. His take is very interesting!  Everyone is touting how a “true believe” saw the light.  I don’t hear much about how he is saying that something should be done, but turning the entire world’s economies upside down isn’t necessary.

        1. It won’t take turning the world’s economy upside down.  The net effect on the world’s economy will be less than that which flowed from the Arab Oil Embargo and resulting rise in the price of oil.  Unlike that transition, the money for green energy substitutes will flow to the developed world, not the oil rich states.

    3. And the obvious increase in atmospheric CO2 is exacerbating whatever climatic cycle we’re in, to the warming side.  The natural cycles were factored in to the predictions which, granted have error bars.  However, trends are up including increase in CO2.  Head in sand at your own risk (actually, it’s at the risk of all of us).

      At the risk of going somewhat off point, you seem to be a creationist but are obviously not a young earth creationist.  Unless you acknowledge climatic change over only centuries instead of millennia and eons.

      1. Don’t you know that the link between CO2 and global warming is about as solid as the link between global warming and humans. You really need to keep up with the news.

    4. Only a fool can believe that billions upon billions of people can pump tons and tons of pollutants into the atmosphere without there being any consequences. 
      But follow the money.  Of course, the big money guys in the oil, coal and gas industries (and the manufacturers of internal combustion engines) want you to believe that the incredible amount of extra CO2 we put into the atmosphere isn’t having any effect, because spending money to clean up their act would affect their quarterly profits, and maybe even their corporate bonuses.
      The big money boys don’t want to address the issue, and they’ve got their minions in conservative talk radio and in the Rupert Murdoch news empire spreading doubt about the science of climate change.
      In the meantime this past July was the hottest July on record.  But go on believing that we can keep spewing junk into the atmosphere forever without consequences.   You are unlikely to ever change.

      1. This past July was the hottest on record for a few places in the United States, but not overall around the world. I’m sure, however, that after the data is properly corrected, this past July won’t be the hottest on record worldwide. 

        It’s only when the heat shows up that the climate change jabber rises to the top. And if that doesn’t work, then they blame it on cow farts. Meanwhile, AlGore enjoys his waterfront mansion using 20 times his allowable carbon footprint, laughing at all the fools he has sucked in with his hypnotizing tune.

        1. “Climate change” doesn’t mean that everywhere on the planet is always hotter this year than the year before.  Change means “change.”  Overall temperatures on the planet are gradually rising, and the polar ice caps are melting (as are the glaciers in Glacier National Park) and the middle of the U.S. is roasting and crops are failing, but yes, some places will be cooler.  Change doesn’t always mean more heat.  Change means change. 
          Keep on believing what the big money boys tell you — we can keep spewing  junk into the air, and it will never have any effect.  I just hope you don’t have any grandchildren, because we are leaving them a mess of our own making.

          1. The “big money boys” aren’t telling me anything. I have formed my opinions and beliefs based on years of working with the data, research, and common sense. I follow no one’s drum beat.

          2. So the fact that you agree with the Murdoch Media empire, and the conservative talk radio folks — that we can keep spewing junk into the atmosphere and it won’t have any effect — is just an accident?

          3. That would be a coincidence, but, no, I have come to my own conclusions based on “working with the data, research, and common sense.” As I stated above.

    5.  remember EJ, God said the next the earth was destroyed, it would be at the hands of man.
      That tells me we better do something about the pollution, because we have been warned.

      1. God also warned us about turning our backs on Israel, sinful lifestyles, neglecting Christ, properly teaching our children, witnessing, living an acceptable life, immorality, sins of the body, hate, slander, protecting the unborn, and many, many more things.

  6. Phil and Pam Person
    Are you proud of your president asassinating an American citizen without any due process or a trial?  I know it makes me proud.

    1. During the U.S. Civil War President Lincoln sent federal troops into the rebellious states.  Lincoln did not recognize the Confederate States of America, and considered all of the Southern combatants to be U.S. citizens fighting against their own country.
      When U.S. citizens take up arms against the United States in attempt to overthrow the U.S. government, we the people, through our elected government, have a right to respond forcefully.

    2.  Wanted Dead or Live, This man help others take the lives, of people in his own country, he pledged allegiance to a terrorist group. In my mind he was the same as Bin Laden.

      1. You were the same people that were asking for civilian trials in Manhattan for captured AQuida members and they were not even US citizens.  Doesn’t matter what’s in your mind.  This country was based on laws not a dictators wish to assassinate AMERICAN CITIZENS

        1. nope not me, I don’t think they they need to go to trail, before a civilian court. They need to be trail as what they are POWs Congress gave him the right to act, with the Patriot Act. Wanted Dead or Live, no different than Al Capone. The man made his choice, he chose Al Quida over his country, he chose to have his own country men killed because, he belonged to Al Quida.

          1. Wow most lefties are against capital punishment and here you come out in favor of summary executions of American citizens.  I see no potential for abuse of power here.  All the evidence presented in a transparent manner; habeas corpus.  All the right checks and balances in place.  LMFAO

  7. Ms. Shaw – I agree entirely. Sen. Chris Rector is an excellent legislator.

    Mr. and Mrs. Person – I could not disagree with you more. Obama is a disaster from start to finish. That is waht we can expect when the American people vote for someone based upon the color of his/her skin rather than the sum of his/her credentials and vision.

    Romney/Ryan have a huge job ahead of them, but offer the type of clear-thinking, highly ethical, and tremendously effective approaches we so desperately need to keep our country from collapsing in debt.

    BDN editors – nice radical leftist double-team on your opinion webpage today. If I keep reading Amy Fried and Mike Tipping, I may find myself praying for Paul Ryan to be hit by a bus. Silly libs!

  8. Two Choices in 2012 – Every comment is just backwards; totally wrong. And, there is only one choice if this country is going to get back to its roots. Period.

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