BANGOR, Maine — Authorities will not release the names of the three homicide victims found dead in a burned-out car in Bangor early this week until DNA testing is complete, according to the Maine attorney general’s office.
Assistant Attorney General Andrew Benson said Thursday officials were still waiting for the results of the DNA testing, which might not be completed this week, before confirming the victims’ identities.
“I think the likelihood is early next week,” Benson said.
Bangor police and the state medical examiner’s office reiterated Thursday that they don’t expect to release the identities of the victims until Friday or early next week.
Benson said investigators also wouldn’t be releasing information about the manner in which the three people found inside the car died. The attorney general’s office took over the case shortly after the three autopsies were completed Tuesday.
“The cause of death is going to be withheld during the investigation, which is something that happens nine-tenths of the time,” Benson said.
The bodies were still being held Thursday afternoon at the medical examiner’s office in Augusta. They are awaiting identification before families can be notified and the bodies released, according to Brandy Desrosier of the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.
A white 2001 Pontiac with Rhode Island plates was engulfed in flames when it was discovered by a woman on her way to work about 3:30 a.m. Monday in the back parking lot of Automatic Distributors, located at 22 Target Industrial Circle.
After the flames were extinguished, firefighters found three bodies that were burned beyond recognition. No one was in the driver’s seat, according to photos taken by the Bangor Daily News on Monday.
A person walking away from the burning car appeared in video surveillance images taken from Automatic Distributors, an employee and Bangor police Sgt. Paul Edwards have said.
While police try to confirm the identities of the victims and piece together evidence, people who think their relatives and friends might be among the victims are awaiting confirmation from authorities.
Four people who believe the victims are friends of theirs arrived at the scene of the car fire Monday night after talking to Bangor police detectives. They said they feared that their friends were dead because the friends got into a white Pontiac with Rhode Island plates after leaving a birthday party early Monday and afterward no one was able to get in touch with them.
Bangor resident Shannon Lee, who believes the father of her daughter and the sister of his girlfriend were in the burned-out car, said she brought her daughter to the police station Tuesday morning to provide a DNA sample.
Instead, police asked her to describe her ex’s tattoos and where they were located.
“They said at this point they probably didn’t need the DNA,” Lee said.
Another woman, a longtime friend of the 25-year-old sister believed to have been in the car, said the sister was identified by a metal plate in her arm.
She said the woman’s sister left the birthday party early because she didn’t feel well but expected her sister and her boyfriend, who fathered Lee’s child, to arrive later at her home.
For some reason the sister awoke at 4 a.m. and found they were not at the house. She called Lee about 5:30 a.m. to see if he was at her home.
“It just doesn’t make sense,” Lee said. “I just don’t understand.”
“The investigation is continuing,” Benson said Thursday.
Edwards and Benson said investigators have received numerous tips from the public but continue to urge anyone who might have information about the Pontiac and its occupants to call police.
Those with information about the investigation may call the Bangor Police Department at 947-7382. The department’s anonymous tip line can be reached by pressing ext. 6.
Bangor Daily News writer Nok-Noi Ricker contributed to this report.
Those with information about the investigation may call the Bangor Police Department at 947-7382. The department’s anonymous tip line can be reached by pressing ext. 6.
That doesn’t give any anonymity. LOL
If you do a public records search on the RI license plate the results are pretty telling.
How so?
I tried that from get go but they wanted 25 bucks screw that free site ?
The reporters are allowed to spend money on that sort of thing. Their code of ethics wouldn’t keep them from telling us if the car is registered to a business or individual and so on.
One would assume by their response that the plate was not the on the vehicle it’s registered to. Not a rental car.
Why? the cops knew that before dawn.
thought it was a rental?
Well, if you paid for the report then please tell us.
so tell me/ what does the pubic record say???
Is there anything new in this latest version of the story?
Doesn’t look like much, but interesting that the bodies are still at the medical examiner’s office even though the autopsies are finished. Almost seems they don’t want to release them to families until the DNA confirms IDs because maybe investigators aren’t 100 percent sure?
Ya
Is there really any point in withholding names at this point since friends and family have pretty much figured it out by now? Seems sort of moot at this point.
Probably they have but there is always a chance it might not be them? Im sure it would be nice for them to know for sure so they can get some closure on this just saying. It is very sad if you ask me.
for those of us who are friends and family — yes, we pretty much know with 99% certainty — but that 1% still lingers — and yes, closure is often not able to be started until services and burials can be held…. and, like most anyone else, we’d like the remains to be released before have such ceremonies…… these victims didn’t just have adult loved ones, but children and younger siblings, nieces, and nephews who need closure as well….. also – yes – people are entitled to their opinions about the involvement of crime, drugs, etc — but for friends, families, and loved ones — whatever faults and problems these victims may have had — they were still loved and they are still victims who did not deserve this….
I sincerely hope your loved ones will be home soon and your closure and healing can begin. I also hope that the person(s) responsible for these murders are caught sooner rather than later and they receive the justice they deserve.
Condolences to all.
my heart goes out to any and all family members and close friends…there are no words to express how sad I am for you and the rest of the family. As a mother daughter cousin and friend I can ot even begin to imagine the horror you must be going thru NOBODY deserves to die let alone such a horrific death. My heart goes out to you all
How come channel 2 gave out 2 names?
In my opinion because of bad journalism. They gave two names provided by anonymous friends and family members who said they THOUGHT their loved ones were in the car. It’s reckless to say those two people are dead before the DNA evidence comes back. It looks like the BDN has talked to the same people, but has decided not to publish the names of the people the friends THINK were in the car until DNA confirms it.
My thoughts exactly, genericcommenter. I e-mailed WLBZ about this and here is the reply from Maureen O’Brien, News Director: “We had a thorough discussion of our decision
before airing both stories. Multiple sources, including family members and law
enforcement, contributed information. The story did not violate the trust of
anyone, not did we break the basic rules of news reporting. Our job is to
uncover and report information. Had there been a compelling reason to withhold
this information, we would have. There was not, and we did not.”
On a follow-up e-mail she added: “… (there are) different kinds of conversations that we have with sources within law enforcement.” I e-mailed the Bangor PD to see if indeed they have some arrangement with Channel 2 about sources, etc. No reply yet. Looks like WLBZ 2 stepped out-of-bounds on this one.
Thank you for sharing that conversation. I thoroughly disagree with Maureen. I’m sure the names are right, but I hope they got something wrong and learn a lesson about relying on emotional sources. Also, I’ve noticed TV news reporting is quite different from newspaper reporting…accuracy and solid evidence seem much less important on television.
because people who know them already know that they were positiely ID’d #DUH
Christopher, they can’t be positively ID’d until the DNA results come back because police have said they’re charred beyond recognition…assumptions and “probablys” don’t belong in journalism, they belong on facebook and next to water coolers
Who was the third person? No name has been given….DUH.
Maybe they were burned so bad that you couldn’t recognize a face but not burned enough where clothing may have protected the tattoo. Body identification by DNA may not always be necessary.
Extremely unprofessional journalism
In my opinion, they were quite responsible and professional in the way they reported the story.
How come my comment got deleted.. Jeeesh.
dont know what your comment was, but it was probly deleted cuz it was the truth
ok
If they have the results which Im sure they do then why aren’t they releasing them? We don’t need to know what happened or how it happened but it would be really nice for the people that might possibly have a relative or a friend in that car to know for sure it is them? If you ask me this is cruel making the families and friends wait but typical of Maine!!!
It states right in the first paragraph of the article that they are awaiting results. That means they don’t have them yet.
There must be something the state can do to get the results faster. This is going on way too long for the families.
We as a society expect things to happen in real life as fast as they do on TV. I don’t know how long DNA testing takes, butit obviously takes longer that 4 days for whatever reason.
EVERY Friday and Monday…
what’s interesting to me is that the bodies were burned beyond recognition. they needed all the supposed victims dna, but yet now they want to know what the girls bf’s tattoos are? I’m starting to wonder if they think he’s alive…..tattoos would be recognizable on a charred body, because I know one of the girls in the car and she had tattoos, and the only way she was id’d was from her plate in her arm.
You people who have information need to speak up. Three people died in a horrific way. Don’t you even care about the families more than your next fix?
You are talking crap….if you know so much call the cops and help get who did this. Get the facts and call the police.
sorry, if they were burned beyound regognition, I dont think even tattoos would be there. jm0
It’s weird to me now that the girl who thinks her ex bf was in the car doesn’t need to DNA to be supplied. That’s how they are iding all of the other bodies because they were charred beyond recognition. I know one of the girls that was in the car and she had tattoos. they had to id her from DNA and the plate in her arm. They couldn’t recognize a tattoo on her body, but yet now they want to know where his tattoos are and what they are??? I wonder if they are looking for him to be alive and possibly a person of interest? I don’t know this for sure, but it sounds like they may believe he’s alive if they aren’t looking to collect DNA for him.
So, there were two girls and one guy who died in the car? You said girls, do you know that for sure?
EDITED
He said girls…that means more than one and baby mama is one of two now.
I gothca, missed that part before…sry.
There was something about they didn’t need the daughter’s DNA because they got a sample from his mother – on facebook I think. Don’t worry about the tats so much. The firefighters said burned beyond recognition but let’s skip the details of what closer examination might show. Just let that part go for now.
They got a DNA sample from facebook? I knew that facebook was too invasive into our lives. How the heck can facebook get my DNA? I dont want to know.
I wonder whether the fleeing person in the video had any evident tattoos…
It’s weird to me that according to the ex-gf they don’t need their child for DNA anymore. And that they are now asking for his tattoos and where they are located. All of the bodies were charred beyond recognition. I knew one of the girls in the car, and she had tattoos. They couldn’t ID her from that, she was so bad that they ID’d her from the plate in her arm. It sounds like they may believe he’s alive, and even possible a person of interest. I don’t know this, but the tattoo statement leaves me very curious.
Come on… You think the guy took his sister’s girlfriend out and set her afire in a car, plus two other people? Come on. And now he’s on the lamb? Come on. Whoever did this is loooooong gone and my bet is not from this area.
It could have been someone real close to the guy in the fire and he was taken off guard. A real snake in the grass.
Wow, well, you could be right. Good Lord. Hard to believe that someone capable of doing such a thing could be walking around Bangor, have a sweet little girl, an ex he’s still friendly with and co-parenting with, and another girlfriend to boot, who’s sister is friendly with him, all these people, roots, and long term relationships, and at the same be a heartless psychopathic murderer thinking he’s going to get away with this in his in own hometown where everyone will know within a matter of days that he is guilty of a horrific tripple homicide.
You are misunderstanding. I think the guy in the car who died is what everybody else thinks. I think he was blindsided by someone he knew in Hermon and the other two were innocent victims. So sad.
Bottom line: I think one of the young men in the car was the dad and bf of the woman’s sister. There’s just too many factors to make it too unlikely that he’s not a victim. Not the least of which is the driver’s seat was empty and we know he was picked up, not driving. I don’t think he arranged for an out of state pick up, got in one side of the car, got out and switched seats and moved bodies and did the hula hula. This, plus all the other factors, points to the driver being the culprit. Sorry but given all the factors, I will never believe otherwise until they give the DNA.
sounds like you know who it was thats from hermon that supposedly committed this atrocity?
I wasn’t commenting to put blame on anyone. I have nothing but sympathy for all families involved. The only thing I was pointing out is what the authorities are doing and asking for. It just seems like they may be thinking of all options. I’d like to think it’s in no way possible that the boyfriend would have anything to do with helping murder his gf’s sister. Everyone is hoping for his safe return if they really haven’t identified him as one of the victims in the car. No matter what, it’s completely devastating for all the families who are involved.
All you care is about the boyfriend!? Want him to come home safe? He is the center of all this tragedy. You might have wanted to think about that before all this happened and try to help him. Safe return? His life is over one way or another.
What are you talking about? I never said all I care about is the boyfriend. The problem with people who comment on here is that you THINK you know everything. It’s not up to me who’s innocent or guilty, or at this point who is even dead or alive. I simply pointed out that the police make it seem as though they may think he’s alive by asking those questions. And whether the boyfriend did it or not…he has a family too, and I know they are hoping for his safe return. What family wouldn’t? You have no idea what happened or who was involved. You should be careful to imply all of this and labeling someone a murderer. For you to say his life is over one way or another is pretty rude too. He may already be dead, and you’re putting blame completely on him all of a sudden. I made it clear I wasn’t making comments to imply I think I know who did anything. I’m just curious as to how this is unfolding.
you have no knowledge to say he is the center of the tragedy. Because of something that happened years ago? people never change right?
That’s the word going around Hermon. What happened years ago?
if you qualify 3 yrs as years ago, then what they are talking about is this… http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2009/06/10/news/three-from-maine-arrested-in-cocaine-case/
the thought that he’s out on the street after only 3 years since the arrest, makes me wonder if he turned states evidence and picked up some enemies along the way.
that’s the problem. there is always someone talking, and people don’t know what’s accurate and what isn’t. I don’t listen to rumors anymore, more than half of the time that’s all they are. when the people in the car are ID’d then you can start pointing fingers.
Could be. How would you know? People in desperate situations do desperate deeds.
whose lamb is he on? was he riding it? lambs are awfully small to be ridden around by big humans.
It has been noted they took DNA from his mother instead of his child according to the mother of his child.
hmm
I would think that being burned beyond recognition could mean face burned beyond recognition not everywhere if they are asking about tattoos. Thing is is that the police said they were charred while they were still in the car, maybe when the medical team came to take them out there were still visible tats and such. Ink goes in there quite aways. I dont know for sure as I do not think I know anyone involved in this but that is my thoughts.
Wanting the DNA from the parent is quite likely more accurate DNA and from a more sensible source, because getting it from the child may mean that someone has to explain to a 7-year-0ld little girl about a big crime that she shouldn’t have to deal with if in fact it turns out not to be her father is one of the victims. There has been no mention of the gender of Any of the people in the news reports, but there Has been a lot of speculation from people in the community about who was in the car when it was burning. What bothers me most is…3 human beings lost their lives. Those 3 human beings had parents, family and friends who loved them and miss them, and they possibly all had children that are now left without a parent, at least one without a mother, and that is HUGE. Someone out there knows Something, and I hope they can at least call the anonymous line and say it. This community deserves closure, but most importantly, the children, family and friends of those lost deserve it. I have to admit though, the tattoo statement also leaves me wondering. I won’t speculate….it’s rude and it makes people’s jobs much harder to do. I will, however, say this. If this turns out to be drug related, the people left behind need to: 1) Learn from it, 2) hopefully try and change the course of the future for the children to follow, and 3) support the family left behind as much as possible. Drugs are a horrible thing for our children to get mixed up in. They get control of the person and life is never the same and certainly not easy for anyone involved. We don’t get anywhere in life throwing around accusations and wild speculation.
the woman in the car also had a young daughter. she’s still a toddler
She was the first they identified from a metal plate in her arm. :-(
I cared about my cousin very much
I cared about my cousin very much
Then get on it and talk to people and get them to call the police.
If they already got a DNA sample from a close enough relative of a victim (like a mother) they wouldn’t need one from somebody else. The rest of it would be best answered by someone who is working with the remains. I don’t need to know those details.
What strikes me is what a shame it is that they all got in with this one person, they probably didn’t even know, but since one got in, the others did too. Just like one kid jumps of the bridge, they all jump off the bridge. Seems they broke parent’s rule no. one: don’t get in w people you don’t know. That’s rule number one!
Kids don’t listen. Doesn’t matter if the parenting is good or bad, they do what is in their nature to do or not do, anyway. Some good parents put all their effort, money, hopes, and dreams into raising their kids and they turn out to be irresponsible and unproductive adults anyway. Some of the worse parents you could ever imagine end up having kids that walk the straight narrow and go on to live productive lives. It’s the individual, not the parent, not the meth clinics, not the teachers, not food stamps or drug pushers, it’s the kid. Of course, it helps not to be raisied in poverty, but it’s not the determining factor in how we all turn out. JMO.
What leads you to believe that they didn’t know him/her?
I’m assuming the others didn’t know the driver, or at least, didn’t know him well, because no one has come forward that I’ve heard about and said, they recognized the driver that night or thought they knew the driver. Not even anonymously. I figure if people come forward and say, “That was my friend in the car,” and offers up their name’s here in comments, that we’d have heard something, through the mill, that the party attendees knew who was driving the car.
I could be wrong, of course. Something that occurred to me is that it might have been someone they knew, but just a strange car. One time, I rented a car in Ct. and it was registered and had plates from NJ, so it could be, I suppose that it was someone they knew and that this person had rented the car locally. This might explain why no one has said they knew the driver. Maybe they didn’t see the driver, just the car pulling up, but not who was driving. Maybe the passengers did recognize the driver and got in thinking nothing of it. Who knows.
I carefully read everything I could find via google, facebook, etc. looking for some hint as to who the third victim might be. There’s no indication that the friends/family left behind know anything else. They saw their 2 friends get in the car and I wouldn’t expect them to see much more unless they have a very high powered street light in front of that house. Maybe one of the killers was also in the car when it pulled up. I have my doubts that there were specific plans to kill 3 people. It’s more likely that one of these 3 was marked and the other 2 just happened to be along when it went down.
Interesting theory but doubtful the case this time. Good police work though. I think you need a couple more sources. Become a PI in Bangor and I am sure you could connect the dots a little better.
#KNOW IT ALL
Many have come forward to finger the driver. The BPD know who the driver is. The people that got into the car knew who the driver was for sure. They are investigating the driver right now as well as about another 30 that have some knowledge, although limited, still 100% more pertinent and useful than any of the speculative comments on here.
I think TV CSI, criminal minds, heck Mattlock back in my day gave us the perception that the public knows what the cops know and these cases are wrapped up in 48 minutes. They take time, money and resources and organization and fine police work to get an arrest or indictment. It’s coming. This guy, the driver, the firestarter will be back to stand trial shortly. Be patient. The BPD are doing a wonderful job, as always.
These were not kids. They were adults with kids. They were all partying and going out to get something sweet for the party. Thought they were, but it didn’t turn out that way.
“They were all partying and going out to get something sweet for the party.”
Pure and unadulterated speculation.
And false information.
Yup, I know, they’re not kids. I just call them that because I’m a mom and my heart breaks for these young people and their family’s. I can’t imagine what their mother’s are going through….
You have no idea about why they were leaving that party. If you read any of the articles, you’d realize that the woman left the party because she wasn’t feeling well. You’re assuming they went to get drugs…..people always think the worst….they always make it seem like it’s always drug related and it’s the victims own fault. You know, every once in a while it’s not drugs. Stop beating that drum.
Look at you ranting Michael. Three young people died in a horrific way and criticize the city. It is the sign of our times and was only a matter of time it reached Bangor. “Entire schools diagnosed with ADHD”, shows your ignorance.
Thank the makers of
Adderall and Ritalin.
Please release the bodies of these three souls to their families. It is torture they are left waiting in limbo. There must be a way to speed up the process no matter what it cost.
Now Bangor Police are alluding that it may not be the father of the 7 year old who was in the burning car. What do people think about this turn of events? Would your man kill his own girlfriend’s sister?
That can’t be right.. It can’t be. How would this guy happen to arrange for a white Pontiac that obviously wasn’t his, to pull up to the curve, and they all get in? Why would this person pick up someone who had an obvious beef with him (obvious if he shot him he had a beef) to the point where his own life might be at stake? Oh that’s just what I want to do! Go pick up someone that’s got a beef with me, has tattoos and posts pictures of himself with guns on facebook. The car did not belong to the father of the little girl, no one has said anywhere anyhow that he had rented or was seen driving around in the car before it pulled up to the party. Am I making sense?
And further, the girlfriend / sister, went home early sick. So she was at the party to begin with. She went home it seems unexpectedly early. This all seems to have taken some planning. How was he to know his girlfriend would leave before him sick? How did he think ahead of time that he would deal with having her and the sister and this other person with him if he was planning on killing someone that night in a car that wasn’t his? ??? ?
I know, it doesn’t make sense. Just saying what police said tonight. Chances are if his girlfriend hadn’t left, it might have been her in that car instead of her sister.
She said on facebook she left because she wanted a shower. Go see.
What difference does it make why she left? My point is this, it doesn’t seem likely that he was planning on killing anyone that night, there he is at a birthday party with friends and family.Not likely.
I took it like she didn’t go with them to the party at all because she wanted to take a shower.
Spot on, Michael!
Why was Michael’s post deleted??? It was spot on…
Because the BDN tolerates not post critical of the left.
Read Krauthammer?
“it was a drug run” is your opinion and you are entitled to it. It is my opinion that your statement is speculation unless and until proven by BPD that was the case.
Go away.
Why, because he’s ruining your gossip clutch by sticking to the reported facts of the story?
Ha! Not at all. If you did some research, you would see there is more to this story than what the news is reporting. Pfffff.
like gossip and rumors?
pffft, indeed.
And don’t forget FaceBook!
BPD actually did implicate a victim in their status posts. There is an entire unfortunate outcry after the post, and sadly, they are discussing the child of one of the supposed victims. I have had to d/c looking at news and statuses about this because it is so incredibly heartbreaking. Whether it is a total coincidence or someone that one of the people knew, it’s senseless and unimaginable that things like this should happen. It’s purely an event that makes a mother or father want to turn back the clock for them so they can make a different decision. I hope they find the monster and throw the book at them….makes me wish this state had a death penalty.
Just out of idle curiosity did it occur to you before you clicked “post” that maybe family and friends just might be reading these comments?
i thought they might wanna know
OK Chris…I am sure you had the victims families in mind when you wrote your post. I am sure that you thought your rumor would be of interest to families that are grieving the loss of loved ones.
Why would you say that? Gross.
because its what i heard,, damn get off my d
It’s what you heard and that makes it fact?
I heard that Elvis is alive and living in Vegas doesn’t make it true.
You heard wrong JD, I just got back fom Vegas for 6 days, I saw 100 different Elvis walking the street that looked just like him. I’m beginning to think he is alive afterall. It sure would make my mom happy if she want dead. Oh well, I hope Mr Presley found salvation before he died so he can be singing along up there LOL
Maybe gathering some DNA will settle the question once and for all.
Wow connecting dots? Or crazy ranting..
Who is the owner of the Pontiac, the must know who was driving it, Some friends as they must know more than they are telling the police, They all must have been under drugs when this took place, otherwise how could it have been done, this has to be bigger than we think if no info is being told to the public.
It has been demonstrated in the past druggies take no prisoners they either get their money or the person does not live to see another day.
True enough, but think that through Banghim, That would mean the person who owed money to a man with guns and tattoos, went and picked him up and took him to a secluded parking lot where anything in the world could happen at 3:00 am in t he morning! Can’t be. Anyone I ever knew owed money to a drug dealer never went and looked for the person and said, “Hey! Here I am! Let’s go for a ride! I still don’t have any of the money I owe you, BTW!” When does that ever happen?
It happens when the dealer offers the guy who owes him money some more drugs. “Hey, lets you, me, and these girls go get high somewhere. I don’t want to share my drugs with everyone here at the party.” Could happen. Not saying it did, just that it could.
Drug Dealers are clever. Never underestimate their slyness or manipulative ways. He could get them in that car, especially if he laid it on thick and gave them an incentive to do so like maybe a quick fix, an opportunity to rob another drug dealer.
How about this for a theory. Driver “get in, girl, guy 1 and guy2” . Driver “I know where there is a drug dealer in Bangor with a huge supply. We rob him tonight, in and out, and all debts will be settled. BAck to Capeheart, home sweet home with all debt settled up” Sound good”. Girl, “what do I do” Driver “Stay in car, you are the get-a-way driver. Driver and guy 1 and guy 2 will go in and rough him up, grab the goods and then we are gone”. Everybody agree? All “let’s do this thing dog”. On way to ficticious hit, driver “let’s pull over here to get everyone all set up”. Driver “guy 1, this baseball bat is yours, guy 2, this rope and duct tape is yours” Now this gun is mine, Sweet huh, you can have it when were done. Now everyone try on these masks to make sure they fit, we dont want him seeing our faces, we don’t want to have to kill em if we don’t have to yo”. Driver ” how do all those masks fit? Keep ’em on so none of the street cams can identify us because we are close to where it’s all going down”. Driver “ready, just one more thing before we roll…..oh sh#@#t are those lights over there look right over there dog (masked group looks right) “BANG, BANG, BANG”.
Driver. Get out, open trunk, dump gas all over car of dead druggies, light it and walk away through the woods till a secure sight. Throw gun and evidence into nearest city drain or something similar. Walk to dysarts, jump a bus back home for things to cool off.
This play by play sounds like you might have been the driver…..
Well when they catch the guy and the truth comes out I guess we’ll see how close my theory is. Thank you though, read a lot of hardy boys as a kid.
wlbz said nick sexton from mass was the driver
As a victim or the guy who walked away?
As a victim it looks like.
it was unclear to me, the news just said they were looking to the car’s driver, nick sexton from mass for clues. ?
So, he came up to Maine with his friend Nicole Lugdon from Massachusetts. I suppose he borrowed or rented the car for the trip. How unfortunate, just a guy going away for the weekend with a friend. Unreal.
Bangor has alwayshad a rough side to it. 200 hundred years ago local land owners would give away free hard cider trees in the hope it would stop the locals from dring so much rum and getting into fights.
What makes a “hard cider tree” different from any other apple tree? I thought hard cider was just apple cider that had fermented.
it is! LOL
There are apples that are bred just for making cider. Generialy you want an apple that isn’t too sweet or your finished product will taste like bandaids. (phenols). Generially any good non desert apple will make good cider hard or sweet. Make sure you use a yeast meant for making dry white wines.
Does anyone know how he was originally supposed to get home? Did she take the car that he was supposed to go home in? Because if he was supposed to go home with her, it just shows even more how unlikely it is that he did it. It would show that he wasn’t planning to begin with to get in with the driver of the Pontiac, so this wouldn’t have been preplanned or prearranged.
I just find it hard to believe that something could have happened in the car that would cause him to go off and murder everyone in the car. Seems more likely someone planned on getting him, not that he got mad in the car about something and decided to do something about it then and there. How long were they all in the car together, what time they leave the party?
this will read like a Hollywood movie script when done confucious say if you mess with the big boys you gonna die young and nasty drugs and death are soul mates
Sometimes all it takes is one of the big boys thinks you’re not so cool. They don’t have a problem finding a few boys who have killed before to go take care of business in some other state. But some people here think this could only be done by some very obvious thugs with adult felony records. Guess again.
Word I’m gettin from some hermon kids is one snitched he was the target and the others were just collateral damage you pay to play sadly
Do you mean to say their friend was the target? I was thinking maybe the mystery victim. Anyway, you don’t have to be a narc to trigger this sort of thing. Just go along with somebody who forgot to get permission to bring you. I’m not a gangsta but at least I learned some of the rules. Like you don’t say a certain word around people who wear one color because it’s what the people who wear another color like to call them. I won’t say what the word is but it would be like saying penguin in a convent and a bunch of nuns go postal on you.
Tats was the target because he snitched after or while he was in jail is what I got from it both girls were users too I only have a partial name on the third victim why they were there I don’t know
So maybe the third victim got used as a way of getting to their target. Could be that there was somebody in that car with a gun telling the driver what to say and do when it pulled up to that house. The standard “Text him and say this. We just want to talk to him and everything will be cool.” type of routine. Could be somebody who knew him in jail who has current dire needs for drugs. Too easy.
And you have called the BPD with this information right?
Another good ol’ Hermon drug connection with death and drug connection.
Get off your pedestal stop using tragedies to promote YOUR AGENDA. YOUR agenda is a nonissue to the victims and their families.
Well stated. You forgot to mention the methadone clinics.
Methadone clinics??? Are you that ignorant??
How do all you BDN detectives know this stuff? Start from the beginning. Is it the tatooed father the one that killed them? Who was in the car? Was it drugs? Was it the girlfriend who went home early? Can someone just put the information out there in one post? All these threads are a bit much to follow. Thanks
Hours and hours of the ID channel.
Franny, calm down. No one has all the answers yet, you’ll get them. Three people, whose identities haven’t been confirmed, were found dead in a car burning in Bangor. That car matched the description of a car that left with several people in it from a party that night. The driver’s seat of that car was empty and there is video of someone leaving the scene, thought it sounds like the quality of the video might me low. That’s what seems to be known for sure, I’m sure things will start to come together and make more sense once the identities are confirmed.
BDN deletes all the comments where people mention the victims by name
If the kids can be believed tats was the target revenge and drugs the girlfriend got lucky her sister not so the girls were from mass but went to school in mad town north If its strait out of state hit that vid better be good also how does the hit man get out of dodge so fast ? Someone pick him up ? Who takes a taxi or bus from dysarts not the big boys only rookies Good hit men don’t get caught
Is this English?
why dont they just take the plate number 583 899 and look up the owner that would be a great start and save some money
Yeah, look it up and it probably comes back as something other than a 2001 pontiac. Then look up the VIN and maybe it’s a car that was reported stolen over a year ago. Monday they said things like they weren’t looking for the owner and the owner definitely wasn’t one of the victims. I think they ran the plate and VIN before they said that.
i wish you luck on the case
I’m not “on the case”. I was just pointing out what the cops were telling the media. Anyway, if you read all my posts on this and some previous crime stories you would figure out that I’m not trying to solve them.
I would assume that’s one of the first things they did. Your comment is borderline moronic.
I’m sure the police never thought of that! I think they need you on the case!!!
Bahahha. Woah detective what a great plan
it will be interesting to see first of the week the ids anyway ,its gonna be awhile before this gets solved if ever i think, very sad. who knows all we know is what we get 3rd and 4 th hand.feel bad for the family .must be terrible waiting.
Maybe somebody with a lot of legal troubles will turn snitch but that could be a long time from now. That’s the way some of the gang crimes get solved. I think the movies make it look like all 500 members in some hood would know who did something like this but that ain’t the way it is at all.
how do you know that ”aint” the way it is?
You want my resume or something? This “ain’t” the time or place to post it.
Go back to Mayberry, Micheal. To live in this city, you have to put your big boy pants on. My gosh, what do you think of Hartford, Conn.?
Terence, we do not live in Hartford, we live in Bangor. We choose to live in Bangor because it does not have the type of BS going on that is rampant in large cities. We do not want the BS of the Hartfords of this world in Bangor. So let’s put a stop to it and n0t just accept it as the way this city will be going forward. There are good things happening here. Moving forward does not mean “putting on your big boy pants” and embracing the criminal element that is accepted as everyday in other cities. That is not what we want and so long as a faction of the people suggest that we just look the other way, go about our business and don’t worry about it, these abhorrent behaviors will be accepted and these types of crimes will become commonplace. Is that really what you want?
Of course nobody wants crime, but understand you can’t stop it unless you choose to live under a rock. This city is very safe and we have the best police force around, and to go on ranting like Michael did- you will be ignored. If you think there is a bustling, vibrant city out there that does not have any crime, you are being silly. Accept it and don’t be afraid. It’s going to happen either way, and there is nothing you can really do to stop it. Criminals are born every day. Education, policing and understanding all help but to sit here and bad mouth our city, you will be escorted out. Enough already. Bangor is the safest city for its size and for someone like Michael to see it otherwise is unrealistic and promoting us in a bad light. If you have answers then post them here, don’t promote our city as a hellish place when it is not. My meaning behind ‘big boy pants on’ is that you got to be a little tough and if you can’t handle Bangor, Maine go try living in a place like Hartford then come back and tell me how violent Bangor is. Experience life and you will see that Bangor is still and always will be an excellent place to live. Very proud of the people of Bangor and very proud of this city. Crime can’t take that away.
How will living under a rock stop crime? That is completely nonsensical. This city is relatively safe at the moment but it will get worse if something is not done. Ignoring it and embracing it as part of a vibrant city is not an answer. Yes, there will always be crime in an area with more than a couple of people. The type of crime and instances can be controlled but not if people are not vigilant and don’t demand that action be taken to quell these behaviors.
Who are you to say that I “will be escorted out” if I bad mouth this city? You are some piece of work, I’ll give you that. And as for answers, you don’t seem to have anything but a suggestion to turn a blind eye and “accept it and don’t be afraid” – well, I for one am afraid of the rise in crime in this city and what it bodes for the future. I am not afraid to be out and about but I’ve been around enough to read the writing on the wall. For all your rah rah sis boom bah about the vibrancy of this city, I’d think you would want a lid put on the criminal element as well. If you don’t believe that this is just the beginning of a cycle of serious crime you might as well crawl back under your rock.
Clara- relax. By saying you can’t stop crime unless you live under a rock means you would have to never leave your secured room to not see crime happen. And the part ‘if you bad mouth us’ is about Michael- hence his comments have been removed. Okay? I’ll walk down that street at 1am if I want to go for a walk. I am not afraid to leave my house. For what? You seem to not understand what I am saying. Crime is not increasing here, population is. With population you get some foul play. We actually had more crime here in the eighties believe it or not. Racial crime, murder, etc. Today it’s all about drugs it seems. But I still believe in this city. Don’t turn a blind eye, but don’t think that this city has gone to the birds. We are rebuilding a great city here. Of course I wish there was no crime. Are you kidding, that would be great. But not realistic, would you say? For every step we take together, there is always a half step back we need to realize. But you keep moving forward and let nothing slow you down. Relax and realize we have very smart people here, and a excellent police force. That alone I am confident that these types of high profile cases will be solved and hopefully prevented in the future. You seem very scared and you really shouldn’t be. That is what high profile criminals feed on and they love publicity for their actions. I say to these criminals, come scare me. I’m not scared. Come break into my house because I need a little target practice. Clara, you don’t need to be afraid is what I am saying. This city is not violent, is not burning, is not a lot of things people say of us, but a good city. If all these things that people are saying is happening then I would be concerned. Don’t worry, everything is going to be okay. This is not Hartford. Hopefully this makes more sense to you. Either way, I respect your opinion and I truly hope Bangor never ever becomes the next Hartford. Of course I wouldn’t want that, but I don’t even see that to start. Your opinion is very important and thank you for venting on someone. I am not that crowd favorite sometimes, and at least you have the guts to speak up. Never stop speaking your opinion, it’s very important. Clara- we need more good people like you in the world. Thank you.
Bangor’s population has only had 1.63 % increase since the 2000 census.
Don’t go by the census. God. I forgive you. That damn census… So it’s just criminals that come here now? Population has grown and will continue to grow as we do. We are a service sector city for a large portion of the state into Canada. That screws up the numbers everytime. You won’t find those numbers. The population of our city flows across a wide spectrum. Our city is populated by thousands that don’t even live here. Crimes happen sometimes at the hands of those people too. Those people are not included as well as others who work, play, visit and populate our fine city. For most of the day, the population can’t be counted here. But it is growing and that is a good thing. Destination: Bangor, Maine brings good people here too. More than bad, or we would be in trouble wouldn’t we… Thanks for your input jimbob. You are a great commenter.
Comparing census 2000 to census 2010 is the ony way to do a rational analysis re: population, the daytime population swells to approx. 50 to 60K not 100K. This data was obtained from an organization paid to do just that to determine police/fire dept needs etc. I think I’ll place a little more confidence in their report. Instead of “dont go by the census”
guest- with respect to your comment, if that is true please tell that to the people that think we need more police and fire protection in this city. Somebody didn’t order enough- based on the census. The census is in the same ballpark as ‘general admission’. It doesn’t work for service sector cities like Bangor. Who told you it does? Census is a way to get in the ballpark, but not if the ballpark has no fence. And there is a big difference between Bangor and Bangor Metro, you do realize I trust. In the daytime, Bangor is Bangor Metro and also host to thousands more. Except for Sunday, that is our day off (steam puff).
“you can’t stop crime unless you live under a rock means you would have to never leave your secured room to not see crime happen” – that makes even less sense than your first version.
The only way to stop crime is to address it. Taking the “turn a blind eye” approach you suggest does nothing except allow you to live in some imaginary utopia. Unless this community becomes proactive against crime, like the 2nd Street Watch has done, crime becomes an accepted lifestyle.
From what you say, it seems you haven’t had that much exposure to the underbelly of this community. The drug culture is not new but the rise in associated crime, violent and otherwise, is new. Bangor’s crime rate is and has been rising. You can wear your rose colored glasses and your condescending attitude all you like, it doesn’t change that fact.
2nd Street Watch is a great start. That was outstanding to see. Good stuff Clara. Yes, you are correct by saying the only way to (lessen) crime is to address it. So you do see Bangor doing something about something? That is good, but we are doing more than just 2nd Street Watch. This city is not accepting crime as you think it is. The criminals are not taking over this city is my point to you. And another point i’ve been trying to make to you is you can’t stop crime unless you block it out. I’m not saying to block it out Clara, I am saying crime will never stop in the world even if you address it. The point here is crime will go on in the world regardless. Can you deal with that? It’s a hard notion, I agree. But it is very realistic. Protect yourself, be aware are your better methods. And have faith that the Bangor Police Department, The City Council, the citizens of Bangor are smart people. They don’t want to destroy the city. They want to make this a great place to live, visit and do business with. That makes me feel confident that the worse won’t happen. Right? Please have faith that this city is not leaving you alone with your concerns. We are family here. All of us. There are people who care about us. Either way, you seem like an outstanding person and I feel safer just knowing that you care.
You really are a condescending little twit.
lol. i’m sorry, you just made my day. you are too cute clara.
well in Michael’s defense this city could be a lot safer. The fact of the matter is that the Bangor City Council allowed us to have not one but 3 methadone clincs here for a population that doesn’t justify it. We should have never allowed one in this state. Secondly you have job corps, this can be a good program but what happened is they had this bright idea to bring kids from the big city to Bangor, Me and vice versa send the kids from the little towns to the big cities does that make any sense?? Then we have probably the best social services in any state cause that is basically what we are is a social service state that will help anyone getting off the bus and we all know that they arrive daily from big cities cause they know they can get welfare, SSI, housing, FS you name it they get it. And finally we have the lovely Shaw House that allows teens to take off from home and live there and do whatever they want to do on the streets, they are not made to go to school, not made to do much of anything but learn how to live off the system. I agree there are a few kids that it has probably benefited but too few to count, you see this kids everyday hanging down at Pickering Square. This city council has created the monster because they have allowed all of these programs in my opinion. The first methadone clinic was the start, now we have not one but 3 so you tell me. What does that say to drug dealers out of state, hey Bangor Maine has a serious addiction problem lets go up there and make all kinds of money!!!
jakey999- This world could be a lot safer should be your comment. And yes, I wish this world was a lot safer as well. You seem like a good person. I hope you live here. The majority of people that are in this city are good people like yourself. As long as we are the majority, we have nothing to worry about. We have had 3 methadone clinics for quite some time. They are there to help people, not promote. It is not that we have 3 of them, we have three of everything. We service a large portion of Northern Maine, Downeast and into Canada. A lot of people come here for treatment, shopping, entertainment, business, etc, etc, etc. We are trying to make this a better place to live, and with that we will eventually succeed. We are considered by many a much safer, better quality of life than what is going on in most of the country. That I take pride in knowing. But not because I was told that, I see that here. It’s better than a few headlines can make us out to be. If all the good here were the headlines, what would people talk about?
Clara mentions:
“From what you say, it seems you haven’t had that much exposure to the underbelly of this community. The drug culture is not new but the rise in associated crime, violent and otherwise, is new. Bangor’s crime rate is and has been rising.”
Do you have much exposure to the ‘underbelly” in Bangor?
I do. Please don’t kid yourself: It’s here. It should be addressed before it gets any worse than it has in as little as the last 5 years.
Born and raised here all my life and I disagree with your comment about this city being safe. It is not the same city I grew up in, the crime started increasing back in the early 2000 timeline when the first methadone clinic opened. I am not going to say this has nothing to do with the drug problem here because it does. The police don’t even want it here but they have to do what the council tells them to do and if you know any police officers they will tell you it has created a monster but they are not going to say to the public. Yes, there are a lot of good decent working families living in Maine but there is also a large percentage that are not, when I grew up you knew everyone. Try driving down on lower Ohio Street by the store there it is downright scarey.
Well put.
The whole situation is tragic. From the sounds of it, 3 people died leaving children, and loved ones behind….for nothing. There is never a reason for this kind of violence. It’s’ so scary. So so scary. Thoughts and prayers to the families who are missing their loved ones tonight. Folks, try to be civil. Try to be nice to one another. The arguments on here are dispicable. Have some respect for the dead and their families. Leaving nasty remarks about the possible victims is wrong. Regardless if drugs were involved, senseless violence is not the answer. All I can think of is the lady who brought her daughter to the police station for a DNA sample. That’s a little girl who probably lost her Daddy. To her, he was just Daddy. Remember that and have some respect.
It is disgusting to think the public is overlooking the fact NONE deserves to die..to be killed and/or let alone burned to death NOTHING drugs prostitution being gay or just to cause harm to someone are u kidding me……I am personally OUTRAGED at this tragedy. None is perfect we have all screwed up at one time or another but is that any reason to cause bodily harm to someone…NO WAY!! Most of all people look around and look closely this is what we the people have turned society into. It trully is sad and it is heartbreaking. Take a minute and put yourself in one of these families positions…how would you feel if this was one of your children a sister or brother a mom or dad…..wouldnt you WANT the public to worry about finding the person responsible for this horrific tragedy not want to listen to or see people bantering back and forth over speculation…or what ifs….FIND the person who ran…relaese the video so ALL of Maine can help bring justice!! Totally behind you candlday
Thanks for defining exactly what ‘gossip and rumor’ are:
“people told…”
wow. then it must be true!!
no wonder youre single.. #ANNOYING
Chris I doubt that the police have told “people that know them”. I am sure that the police have spoken with family members and next of kin to give them as much information as possible but the police are not in the habit of sharing information with casual acquaintances.
And you heard this from who? And why do you feel the need to share information that has not been released by the authorities?
Hmmmm, love it when people have parts of the story. Looks like Christopher has a buddy.
“Story”?? I think fantasy would be a better term to use at this point.
bushfan, my info was a little off, im interested to know how you know so much?
I doubt he will serve up his source anytime soon, plus my guess is that his info is a little off.
Drugs, drugs, drugs…That is what this will boil down too as well as money and crime. This was a case where instead of running with the “Big Dogs” these people should have stayed on the porch! A child now has to grow up without a mother and learn leter in life she was murdered all because of drugs. If anyone wants to bash me, feel free, but if this isn’t drug, crime and money related, then what was it!! Bangor, Lewiston and Portland and turning into or have been for some time turning into drug and crime havens for out of state thugs and the youth and young adults of the area who are misguided, jobless and not smart to follow looking for the easy way to make money and feed their habit. Things will get much worse around here, much worse!
Civility- You have no proof that this was a “drug run.” Like you said you weren’t there. Maybe they called this person for a ride home (since the guy and his gf’s sister were going to the same place) and who ever was driving the car turned on them. But I wasn’t there either so I don’t really know. All we DO know is that they were going somewhere and got in this car. It doesn’t really matter what they were doing what matters is who was driving and why they did this horrible act.
WellIsntThisGreat- I know this guy not very well but good enough to know that he’s not going to get in a car with someone he doesn’t know. But I do agree with you when you said it’s the individual. Most people, myself included, that stray down the wrong path just don’t know how to cope with the bad things that do happen. So the bad then ends up out weighing the good because they don’t know how to deal with it.
I think I know what happened but why tell, the authorities already know and will divulge that information in time as the evidence collected in the investigation allows them to do so.
hmmmm how do u know?? If u know “anything” you should call the authorities and tell them its the tiniest of things that may be the answer
Maybe I did. But I gotta say, when they said do you have any evidence and I told them heck yes, my 60 years of common sense that just wasn’t enough. LOL.
You should re-think putting a possible victim’s name on here. Speculating!
there were only three people in the car when it left the party… where are you people getting that there were 4? i.m.o. they were killed elsewhere driver was moved car was driven to automatic torched and the assailant walked away.
Very news article I have read said there were 3 dead bodies and 1 person seen leaving the burning car on video surveillance. 3 + 1 = 4 I’m assuming we’ll find out most of the significant details next week.
I didn’t find anything that limited it to 3 people. It was night when the 2 left the party so I have my doubts witnesses could see if it was only a driver in the car. It sounds to me like at least one person at the party was curious enough to spot the out of state tag so I think they would also be trying to see who’s in the car.
my information is coming from people at the party and there was only 3 people in the car when it left there
Well, I hope the lighting was good. I suppose the ideal would be if the car pulled into a driveway and a bright motion sensing light came on. But it still can be hard to tell if there’s somebody in the back seat at night. I knew this guy that did a great wino act. I watched him pee on a car and fall across the windshield when he needed a closer look.
not sure what some guys wino act has to do with the number of people that were in the car when it left the party?
Well try reading it again. I was pointing out a real example of how difficult it can be to see what’s inside a car at night.
They did say there did not appear to be anyone in the drivers seat…
My #1 question to the Attorny Generals office and the local police departments…Why would you keep the public from seeing any sort of video where there were other vehicles in this parking lot…where there is video of someone leaving the white vehicle …why would you NOT release this so we the people who are completly outraged at this tragedy be able to help in finding any and or all people involved in any tiny or utmost important way…maybe it is one of our neighbors…a frieind of a friend…or the person standing in line in front of you at the store…until we are able to see what is available the law enforcement is aloowing this person(s) to get away with cold blooded murder!! Let the public help!!
The police will not make the surveillance video public unless they need the public’s help in identifying the person seen walking away from the car. Therefore, it’s possible that the police either know or have a good idea already who that person is.
Ever think they have Id’d the suspect. Let them work. The public has no “right” to know everything. It pays to wait patiently until the result comes out.
god i hope you are a cop and you’re dropping a hint…
Simple under ground 3 people leave all knowing each other they meet the connection at the cementary he is already there with his driver everyone gets it one drives the car to automatic with the accelerant provided by his partner torches the car walls away jumps in the get away bingo out of state before the cops even get started with the questions ill be surprised if they find the killer
You left out ,,..?,,.
If you all know all this report it
He got some of the information from people the cops have already been talking to and some from a person who saw where the cops were looking. Nothing to report in that case.
Yeah but people here aren’t satisfied with that any of the simple scenarios you can come up with. And this wasn’t done by Daniel Porter so good luck with the cell phone records.
I think if this case gets solved and someone is arrested, you’ll have a story that TruTV will want for their ‘Forensic Files’ show.
This is the young crowd the city council wants in Bangor.. Great job Bangor. What we need are more booze clinics and resturants in the downtown.
The city is scared to lose our youth to different states. If this is the way it’s going to be, I say goodbye
I would love to see more restaurants in the downtown. I would also love to see more independent retail shops in the downtown.
Would you prefer that the downtown were all boarded up store fronts?
yeesh
First, lets see… yeah you are probably right (Sarcasm for those who say this is not drug related). This wasn’t a drug related incident. People are randomly murdered and have their bodies burned beyond recognition in a parking lot in the middle of the night for no reason every day…especially in BANGOR MAINE!!! They obviously knew the person driving the car if they got into it after a party to get a ride home. Who gets into a random car to get a ride with perfect strangers from other states…NOBODY!
Second…The police and AG are doing their jobs in accordance with what the law states. Every one wants to know what happened but keeping this as low key during the investigation is always the best thing. I am sure the police already know who the “person walking away” is. Lets see…look at the photo’s, there is a Rhode Island plate perfectly in tact in the picture. Any one who is computer literate can run a plate check on the internet and see where it came from and who owns that plate and/or vehicle. (Unless it is a fake tag) Unless this vehicle was stolen in Rhode Island and driven here for the specific purpose of a crime, (Which has been known to happen) the police already have the answers and are actively seeking a suspect who may be more than likely still in the area, which is probably why they are keeping quiet. If they plaster their face all over the news, the suspect will be gone fast!
Lets all remember that no matter what the cause, this is still a horrible incident that will always be remembered. There are families who want answers and it is not a game to see who can solve this crime the fastest. Leave well enough alone and let the AG do the job, stop complaining about the amount of time for DNA testing, and keep checking the news like the rest of us. Or… play your Sherlock games and think you can solve a crime, complain, and look like a the typical “nosey neighbor” trying to get the first scoop for gossip. Now THAT happens everyday in BANGOR MAINE!
Pretty good post right there.
I agree with the other poster. This was an EXCELLENT post!
Undercover MDEA agents often drive cars with out of state tags…
That’s a classic technique. I know for sure in the early days of our federal DEA some agents were “borrowing” cars from city police impound lots. Shiny new lease cars don’t always fit in with undercover work.
I can’t wait for all the law enforcement agencies to solve this case, so the real truth will be revealed. I can honestly say I lost brain cells reading some of the ridiculous comments on here.
i missed it? what was said by Michael??
Seriously this is ridiculous, we have supposedly 3 individuals who died in that fire and still no names of who they are only speculation. Why withhold the names? Something does not add up and you are not being fair to their loved ones who are still hoping but also wanting some closure to this tragedy. What is wrong with this picture???
Can you imagine how upset people would be if they released the names and then realized it wasn’t the person they thought it was because the DNA didn’t match? Good grief people!
yes died in a fire but when fire fighters discovered the bodies at least one was missing half the skull…. do you know how hot a fire has to be to eliminate bone? somewhere in the neighbor hood of 3000+ hotter than any car fire i can assure you that
Because the investigation is way more important than you knowing the information. Stop being nosey and learn patience
The Names are up there, why you complaining
YOU can mess with locals but when you cross ny or mass you die young and nasty this wasn’t no local feud this is the big dogs and they bite big and permanent
http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2009/06/10/news/three-from-maine-arrested-in-cocaine-case/ nothing good happens after 1 am ,to quote a football coach,i said it before ill say it again these guys usually dont screw up they are pros and namelss ones at that good luck maine law enforcement.the vid is key.
Speculation…..speculation…..speculation….everyone wants to speculate on who and what drove the person(s) to murder three people.
A lot of ranting going on and very little information. Three dead bodies in a burning car. Period.
It’s sad reading some of these posts. There really are just hateful people who think nothing but the worst of situations. Reading on here about drugs and people’s past before a SINGLE piece of evidence is even released to the public is outrageous. Making it seem like people’s lifestyles (which you know nothing about) is why they are dead. Keep those comments to yourself. Family members will read these comments and it will do nothing but add more heartache to what they already feel. Those comments do nothing positive for those who have been lost. How about putting a little bit of energy into giving POSITIVE support to those who have lost their loved ones instead of wasting your time bashing those who can’t stick up for themselves??? It doesn’t matter if they preferred a lifestyle different than yours (which you also don’t know), it doesn’t mean they deserved what they got. Have some respect. They have families who are beyond devastated. I know if this was my child or sibling, I’d be beside myself with grief no matter what they have done with or in their life. And for those who sit here and trash on the deceased, and have no emotion about what hurt they could be causing these people’s families, then clearly you have issues and need help. I hope they solve this triple murder soon.
There are a lot of people posting here, that have too much time on their hands. Each is simply posting conjecture without any real information.
Come on! At least bound your posts with some similarity of facts!
It appeared to be an impossibility. Yet, through the miracle of DNA Forensics and a lot of footwork, investigators kept slugging away, at what first appeared to be an unsolvable case.
Identifying the victims in this horrible and tragic event, is just another, yet major step forward toward bringing the fiend(s) to justice. Unraveling the identities of the charred bodies is a commendable scientific achievement.
Whoever torched the car wanted police to find absolutely no trace of the people, he or they murdered. However, the perfect murder plan was stalled when an observant and conscientious citizen turned the tables on the killer(s). Fortunately for police, fire fighters quickly doused what appeared to have been a highly incendiary fire, judging by what was left of the car.
We are fortunate to have such a fine ;police department, backed by top grade state forensic specialists. Working together they have managed to solve a major part of the mystery – the identities of people – killer(s) wanted to hide.