HOWLAND, Maine — Bail was set at $10,000 cash Monday for each of four men arrested over the weekend after police say they brutally beat up two local men, leaving them with broken facial bones, broken ribs and missing teeth.
Brandon T. Summerson, 21, of Enfield; Howland brothers John T. McKinnon, 21, and Henry R. McKinnon, 27; and Charles W. Gardner, 20, also of Howland, each have been charged with two counts of aggravated assault in connection with the incident, according to Stephen McCausland, Maine Department of Public Safety spokesman.
“They were both severely beaten,” McCausland said of the two Howland victims, who are 30 and 31. The Bangor Daily News is withholding their names because they are victims. The assault took place on Friday outdoors at the junction of Caron Drive and River Road.
“[The 30-year-old] has 80 facial fractures and will need extensive facial reconstructive surgery,” Jim Aucoin, a Penobscot County assistant district attorney, told Superior Court Justice William Anderson in court Monday.
“The other victim has numerous fractures that include a broken eye socket, broken ribs and [some of] his teeth have … been knocked out,” according to an account of the assault on the Maine State Police website. “He’s in ICU [intensive care unit] with an unregulated heart beat.”
A dispute over money apparently sparked the fight, Aucoin said outside the courtroom.
The affidavit is not forthcoming, the judge said.
“They all admit being there but nobody admits to doing anything,” Anderson said. “It’s hard to delineate who did what. What we know is four people did beat up two people [and] the two people have very, very serious injuries.”
For that reason, all four arrested are facing the same high bail conditions, the judge said.
Anderson set bail at $10,000 cash and added several conditions, which bars them from contacting the victims and each other, and from possessing alcohol or illegal drugs. If any of the men are able to make bail, they also will be subject to random searches and testing and have a court-ordered curfew that requires them to be home between 8 p.m. and 6 a.m.
While discussing Gardner, Anderson asked if anyone wanted to speak and the young man’s father, William Gardner, stated firmly that, “at this time we chose not to post bail.” As William Gardner walked past a dozen of the suspects’ and victims’ family members, the mother of the 31-year-old victim said, “Thank you.”
William Gardner said the victim’s mother and his wife, Ellen, are close family friends. The women hugged when the Gardners left the courtroom.
“My son Charlie has no record. He’s 20 years old and he potentially has screwed himself,” Gardner’s father said as he was leaving the courthouse.
“It’s really hard because it’s a small town,” said the mother of the 31-year-old victim.
Maine State Police Sgt. David Millett and Troopers Larry Anderson and Keith Barton arrested Summerson and the McKinnon brothers at about 3:30 p.m. Saturday with assistance from Deputy Michael Knights of the Penobscot County Sheriff’s Office and Game Warden Mike Boyer, district leader for the Lincoln region.
Gardner was arrested Sunday.
“The assumption is [the assault] was done with more than just fists,” McCausland said. “We’re still trying to pin down what sparked this violent assault.”
The victims both remain at Eastern Maine Medical Center in Bangor, McCausland said.
John McKinnon has an assault conviction from 2011, Henry McKinnon has a drug possession conviction from 2009 and another conviction for cultivation of marijuana, and Summerson was convicted of criminal trespassing and criminal mischief in 2011, Aucoin said.
The 31-year-old victim is slowly recovering, said his mother, who did not want to be identified.
“The swelling is going down,” she said, but his doctors still “don’t know what is causing the erratic heartbeat.”
Tests are being done to see if her son had a previously unknown medical condition that was discovered after he was admitted at EMMC, or if the attack caused stress on his heart.
“He’ll be in there for a while,” the man’s mother said.
All four suspects remained behind bars Monday night, a jail official said.
Holy cow. How brutal and horrible. Why would people deserve this type beating for any reason? Disgusting.
All about drugs.
Probably so….still ridiculous.
Gary,
Don’t know how you are so sure of the facts. Were you there? One of the guys cheering these people on? Well, for good measure, here’s my two cents worth. These guys were looking for someone to hurt. Before they started calling these victims to get them to come over, they were calling another young man from Howland to come meet them. He had just had a run-in with Brandon Summerson, over Brandon harassing his girlfriend. No money, no drugs, just a girl-friend. I infer from this that they weren’t concerned about money or drugs at the time, they just wanted to hurt someone, ANYONE.
Hey I could think of a few reasons . Maybe Carlson should have been beat.
Hey, if he hadn’t jumped off the bridge…..that is a real possibility in this day and age.
If he had not jumped he might have been tossed over.
You take one leg and I’ll take the other!
Good. And once you guys toss him over how about you stop bringing his name up in every thread. It gets really old. We all know he was a monster. He is now a dead monster, so how about you both stop perpetuating the hysteria?
When the people who let him get away with it pay………………………………………………………
Well clearly you know who let him get away with it. We all do. There’s at least a few big names floating around. How about you stop whining constantly and do something about it if it means that much to you? Clearly the law doesn’t care. Clearly you are for vigilante justice. So, why not handle it yourself? Otherwise, Id suggest we all move on with our lives. The law clearly doesn’t care, which is clearly a reflection of how twisted and sick our laws, lawmakers and law enforcers are. So either do something about it, or don’t and stop talking about it constantly. Hysteria is useless, really, it is.
The guys pictured above felt they had a right to do violence to other folks too.
like Charlie Howard? read the officer’s statement above about an ‘eye for an eye’.
Charlie Howard never hurt anyone. Please difference story.
their bail has been set at $8,000 each, a jail official said Monday.
Wow… I’d like to know why they beat the crap out of those two other men if their bail is only $8000 each.
$8,000 bail???? I think this could be attempted murder. Who is the stupid judge to set that bail? This state is rediculous when it comes to bail and jail conditions not to mention seeing severe criminals get off with light sentences. I guess these judges want these guys coming back for more. Makes them look like they are needed. Set a real bail like $200k!!!!
unbelieveable!
Was the bail set by a judge or by a bail commissioner? Either way, I personally don’t think it is enough for this type of crime, but if it was set by a commissioner, it’s another example of why the commissioner system needs to be reviewed.
Maine judges are a criminal’s best friend.
Says a person who probably isn’t a criminal. You are brilliant.
Obviously, they are waiting for a murder charge! Maine needs to be armed….ALL the time!
I doubt they have the means to make the 8k. That’s a lot of cash for people in their position to just materialize. I doubt they have careers and piles of money sitting around. It hardly matters if its a $100 or a $100,000,000 bail if they cant post it. And yeah, the courts do need criminals. How else to do you think they stay in business?
2 of the pukes made bail.. unbelievable..
I didnt read that, but because you are from Howland I am inclined to believe you. I reasoned they would not have the means to come up with such a high bail and therefore a higher bail would have been irrelevant. I suppose now, given developments, a higher bail would have been required to keep them behind bars until trial. I couldnt foresee them having the means to post, I think my assumption they wouldnt be able to was logical. 10k cash is a lot.
The judge could be Anderson. He seems to like people that brutally murder others. Case being back in Nov.
I wonder if someone’s cash crop got stolen? The beating seems excessive for any reason!
dont matter if anything got stolen the beating is not excessive it not right hope they get beat
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scumbags
Only $8000 come on they should atleast be $25,000 cash or land. What they did should be considered attempted murder.
this article was in conneticut…look at these bail condition….on a $10 drug charge…LOL
Andrea Jeanne Berwick, 24, of Berlin, was arrested on Feb. 4, on a Possession of Controlled Drugs charge. She was arrested at 6:30 p.m. at the Days Inn on South Main Street. Police allege Berwick was in possession of $10 worth of narcotics/green pills manufactured by Teva Pharmaceuticals. She was released on $2,000 personal recognizance bail and is due back in court on March 12.
JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE…I CAN NOT EVEN BEGIN TO UNDER STAND HOW SOMEONE CAN HURT ANOTHER PERSON TO THIS EXTENT OR EVEN AT ALL…SO SAD OUR LITTLE TOWN IS TURNING INTO JUST AS BAD AS THE CITY…IF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM WHERE TO GO WITH THE OL EYE FOR AN EYE SYSTEM I THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS VIOLENCE IN THE WORLD…JUST SAYING.
I agree with you but violence would actually double for a short time because an act of violence would beget the same. Eventually we would live in an almost crime free society but the liberal amongst us would have a fit about punishing the guilty.
Baloney. Crime free society my foot. Check out Afghanistan. They practice eye for an eye there as taught in the Kuran (same as taught in the Bible). It is the most violent, lawless country on earth. Women, children and men there are living in the 12th century
Gasp! Did you just equate the Quran with the Bible? OH NO YOU DIDNT! Jesus has nothing to do with Mohammad. They are unrelated. None of the bible’s teachings are stolen from of numerous previous cultures, unlike the Muslim Quran which is based completely on fairy tales and stories which are stolen. Heck, even the moderately intelligent scholar knows how much of a copy the Quran is. I dont go by such hearsay, sir, I go by the word of the bible. Jesus is savior!
Technically speaking, the bible is a book of hearsay…Muslims believe in Jesus, they just don’t believe he was the son of God. They believe him to be a prophet, which he was. The Holy Bible has been written and re written over many centuries, hence the different versions. The Q’ran was written down by the Prophet Muhammad from God. The Bible was written down by a group of men from memory….
Actually, the people who wrote the bible and all other holy books just basically stole and recycled ideas from previous cultures. It wasnt from memory. They just had to do a bit of research. Its all fairy tales. Told, adapted and retold. I just find it amusing that people of the faith believe their religion to be “more correct” then others.
Is the U.S. run by the Taliban now?
Yes, only here they are called republicans. Want proof? I give you US Senate candidate Todd Akin.
Please, go back to your leader.
only in maine buy the way you can make a left turn or rearend someone and they get killed no charges just an accident?
This is really heinous. No one deserves to be beaten. Especially to this extent. I hope they get a one way ticket to prison.
So does everyone in town… :( l
What the heck is going on????
one word……DRUGS!
I got another one: PEOPLE!
What a bunch of bullies these 4 men are! I’m willing to bet they are not as brave when they are alone.
Dunno bout the rest of em, but Summerson is a tosser. I met him in the place where people go to get sorted out. He ain’t really a tough guy. Decent actor, though.
Four poor-excuses-for-men against two? Where I come from, that’s cowardice in its lowest form.
I would like to know what would cause this type of beating. Obviously it was planned so they cant say they were all insane at the moment of deciding to beat these guys up. Pretty sick situation if u ask me.
really no different from the three last week who were killed and burned in that car…. This one should be attempted murder and nothing less. They better hope the one in the hospital hangs on. Another one of the state getting double wammied… we will have to pay to keep these scumbags in jail and to care for the other ones because you know the scumbags won’t pay it. My heart goes out to these poor guys. Nobody deserves that, I don’t care if it is all about drugs. I really wish they would start holding these people accountable for their actions. Our justice system sucks, and its really a slap in the face for the police that take the time to try and keep up safe for the judges to just slap the criminals hands and let them go.
good chance charlie’s old man will buy him out of this one like so many before..
and theres a good chance you’ll live to whine another day.
The version of the article I’m reading states that Mr. Gardner in NOT bailing his son out of jail. Not sure what the article said when you read it though.
Geez four. More 20 year olds with purpose in life (sarcasm noted)Do people from the sticks skip the part about civility up here??!!! They should do 2 years and be required to pay all the medical bills.
If they found any weed on them they would do 20.
I grew up in “the sticks” and would never do this to anyone! People who grow up in “the sticks” do learn politeness and courteous behavoir, I believe it is the people who grew elsewhere who may lack civility for others, it is something your parents teach you as a child and you continue to practice thru out life, it definately has nothing to do with growing up in “the sticks”
These 20 something year olds who comitted these brutal beatings have no respect for others or for themselves, they deserve to be beaten as they did to their victims.
Remember when being from “the sticks” meant nothing ever happened?
I happen to live in the “sticks” and I am not sure I like that comment!
Yeah because ALL idiots come from the sticks? Where are you from? I would assume the sticks if what you said is true.
Could there be more to the story?
Not only should this be considered attempted murder, we also need to consider the possibility that it was hate-motivated, given the nature of the injuries and how especially brutal the beatings were. That’s not how you beat someone who owes you money. That’s how you beat someone who you are convinced deserves to die.
It wasn’t hate motivated. It was about money and drugs.
So you know all about this? Were you there or involved? You’re trolling a comment board pushing details of an incident that have not been released, at least as far as I can find. This is interesting… Do you get something out of doing this? Family members involved? Somebody owe you money? If you know so much about this, have you talked to the investigators yet? They might like to find out what you know…
Live in the town- know the alleged perpetrators and the victims- actually related to one- so, no I’m not trolling. Are you?
So because you know the perps and victims, you know exactly what happened? Good, you should contact the state police. And no, I’m not trolling, I saw you make the same comment a couple of times, so had to ask why you were trolling.
I simply dislike people gawking at tragedy, and when people act like they’re “in the know” when they’re not just for attention. It’s fake and it is disgusting. But if you know, by all means, tell the investigators what they need to know.
Well hopefully this is not a case of the “Sherlock’s” looking for the first scoop on gossip. IT is no ones place to let everyone know what might have happened prior to police releasing it to the public. There could be details they are trying to keep quiet for specific reasons. Let them do their jobs. That is why they were called and not you (referring to the people making assumptions and implications).
gary’s right! the problem is,, 2 of these useless pos have been in trouble alot, why on earth they haven’t been sent to Afghanistan as human targets is beyond me. i’m sick of the system turning a blind eye on the waste’s of the land, i hope they all pick someone that is ready for trouble,,and is likely to eliminate them.. and for all you folks that want to rehabilitate trash like this, invite them to your town or better yet, have them move right in with you. and if you’d like i bet we can round up more trash for you..
And let me guess, you’re just the person to eliminate the trouble makers, eh? Calm down, Blokhin, you are trash in someone’s eyes too. All people are equally worthless, dont kid yourself.
lets hope you never find out,,, blokhin
Hah. Alright, tough guy. For someone who condemns violence you are awfully aggressive,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Would you prefer Pierrepoint? Or would you rather I not associate you with people who are responsible for ending many lives? Given the nature of your original post, I assumed you’d wear that name with pride. My mistake. Sorry.
yes i agree,, you are sorry.. would you happen to be a father of one of these fine individuals?
YOU sound like you must be one of the arrested……..or a fellow punk. Just saying.
Doesn’t sound that way to me. I think many of these commentators on here just troll through the controversial stories to lash out and condemn others for their opinions. I find that they like to belittle others and just like you, think that someone who has an intelligent opinion is somehow involved or they are a pos. BDN should monitor their forum a little better and not allow certain commentators to comment. Most of them harrass and I find it discouraging. I am an open person (along with many that I hear from on here) and embrace others honest opinions – well, those that don’t name call or tear someone apart for their opinion. Just saying…
exactly Joy. i was harassed yesterday by someone because i was commenting about something that happened to my Mom. it’s a shame when you can’t commenting on how you feel about something. i was called a fool for sticking up for my Mom. I hope that these “men” pay for their crimes and sins.
Glad you’re so sure, not that it really helps the poor victims. I hope you’re using your apparent insider information for the better.
It was all about ONE pill. not only did they beat the life out of these boys..but they also screwed them over on a fake pill….all of these boys who beat up the two…have been getting away with breaking into peoples houses, stealing their things, and now they thought they would get away with this!!!!!
Regardless no one deserves what happened. Funny how the 4 guys didn’t have a scratch on those pretty little faces. You need to see the victims faces!
I am going to take a guess here and say when you break somebody’s skull 80 times and knock out there teeth you where going to kill them. $8,000 is not much money when it comes to bail.
what is happening to the Maine we grew up and felt safe in..
Keep these boys right behind bars. and hope they have to pay for all the medical bills and other bills these men have.
they should be sent to prison for attempted murder!!!
sorry i disagree,, they should not be behind bars, they should receive the same beating, then be present at a public hanging. time to send a message to the criminals!
Ya, that notion has worked so well in the past.
Given the hits to the groin, my gut tells me its either over a woman or.child. Just a guess…..
Is a ‘shoed foot’ considered a ‘weapon’ in Maine? In many states it is, and allows bail to be set higher because a ‘weapon’ was involved.
Maine, soft on crime.
We are seeing the results of the last couple of generations; where punishment is not handed out, drugs have taken over, parents don’t care about raising their kids, and half of the state receives government help. Maine is turning into a piece of garbage.
I think one set of parents care, that’s why they left their kid in Jail and didn’t post bail!
I was going to comment on that. Kudos to that dad. Seriously. Nip it in the bud now, let the son know the parents aren’t going to come running and bail him out when he messes up, and maybe the kid has a chance. That father made a hard decision, but it was the right one.
Personally knowing the father of Mr. Gardner, I know for a fact that they only want what’s best for their son. We all must understand the kind of hardship all of the folks are going through right now (considering just how small the town is, and how close everyone is to each other). I wish the best for all the families, especially the two families of the victims.
I pray. i pray. you are right. these are good people, dealt a heavy hand.
Kids raising themselves is a result of our economic system, not uncaring parents. For decades now, since Reagan’s trickle down BS economic model, the Wall Street “for profit at all costs” mentality has put the American worker down, sent our jobs overseas, and disenfranchised Americans until parents must both work, some more than one job, just to feed and house their family. So you end up with children coming and going without their parents around to teach them what is right and what is wrong. Worse, even if a parent is around and doing their best, the vast majority of children today are not supervised and thus influence the few who are. This is just one example of the many effects we are reaping caused by the GOP economic version of utopia. Throw in declining healthcare, bad diets, the drug epidemic, gangs, poverty, early death, and you start to do an accounting of how much this GOP driven utopia really costs Americans. Indeed, the world! Utopia for who? Not these parents and children.
Drugs have taken over the last couple generations? Apparently you are lacking in your knowledge of American History. Here’s a short run down:
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The day Columbus landed in America he was gifted Tobacco from local natives. Without tobacco its likely our country would have sank rather then swim.
In 1656 there existed a law in Massachusetts requiring every town in the colony to have a pub.
In the first half of the 19th century Opium and Morphine use is common. Mothers often dose babies with a small bit of Laudanum to help them sleep, fight fever or pain from teething. Morphine used during the Civil War creates widespread addiction. The treatment is found in Heroin (RE: Morphine).
In 1876 the states imports almost 1/3 of the worlds coffee.
In 1884 American’s embrace Cocaine as treatment and cure for many aliments, including addiction of Opiates. This period of use doesnt end until the late 1920’s when alternative forms of speed become available.
1896: Heroin (manufactured by Bayer) is still available over the counter.
1920: Prohibition of Alcohol. Fails miserably, creates organized crime. Repealed in 33.
1960s: Counter culture at home see’s the explosion of LSD usage. MDMA hits the streets around the same period. Marijuana usage skyrockets and never subsides. Soldiers in Nam become introduced to Heroin and begin to use it.
Late 1980s-90s: Cocaine, Crack and Heroin explode once again on the streets.
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As you should now be able to see, drugs and this country go back to day 1. There is no “taking over” happening. You dont need to conquer what is already yours. Life, by your standards, is garbage. Get use to it bud. No point getting huffy.
don’t you dare talk about these parents. these folks are teachers and business owners. they love the children and are doing what they think best for them and the community that they live in. these are good people. judge the actions of the child, MAN, not the parents.
teachers and business owners guess they didnt teach how to be a man
To call Maine a piece of garbage suggests those aren’t the only lunatics running around loose here
Maybe if these people all went out and got a JOB they wouldn’t have time to be in these messes. I know for a fact that all 4 of these people do not work and have never had a steady job. Too much time on their hands.
The only reason I could except this beating for those 2 guys is IF THERE WAS A RAPE OR CHILD MOLESTED by them other than that no excuse
Self defense?
If these 4 losers have so much energy to get rid of, perhaps they should find something more constructive to do with it, such as working- a second job if they are not exhausted at the end of the day from their first job. If they can’t find a job, volunteer to do physical labor. They obviously have too much spare time on their hands. It used to be that a man of their age was busy working to provide for his family, not dragging the family name thru the mud. (Let’s hope they haven’t already fathered children & abandoned them!) In the unfortunate event that drugs are involved, perhaps they were underemployed to begin with, thus getting into mischief. Seems as if jail is not a big enough deterrent, let’s implement a “work farm”, maybe that’ll scare them. Threat of physical labor in return for a decent paycheck is a real deterrent to degenerates these days…
The work farm you seek is in Charleston and it is being used… What else don’t you know?
You must be the most negative person I have encountered on here. I have yet to see anything positive from you – especially on the happy, uplifting stories. Oh wait, that’s right, you don’t read those ones because I have not seen you post anything on those stories. You are the one that is trolling through these awful reports just so you can belittle others to make yourself feel better. I remember people like you – they were called bullies in school. Nobody likes a bully…
The only thing you are correct about is my negativity. There is none more negative. My ship exists to sink.
Are you this rude all the time with your comments or are you just having a bad day?
All the time. Promise.
Another feel good story. First the 3 car deaths, now this.
How much better off would the world be if punishments for crimes like this were severe? That would hopefully make them think twice. Tie these four guys’ hands behind their backs and start kicking their face in repeatedly.
So sad to see what Maine is coming to
Don’t forget the groin too!
Nope. You are incorrect. Its been proven many times over that more more severe punishment does not deter people from committing illegal actions. In fact, I would argue there is a direct correlation between the constant escalation of “acceptable” violence (RE: In the name of the law and in society) and “unacceptable” violence (RE: illegal acts, domestic violence, etc). You think people respond well to cruelty of any sort? Doesn’t your statement in fact prove that violence begets violence? You advocate doing the same thing to them that they did to someone else while simultaneously condemning their actions. My, aren’t we a bit self-righteous? How is your punishment justice? Because you think it is right? Maybe they beat the crap out of those dudes for beating the crap out of someone?…. So naive…. Maybe someone should kick your face in for having a horrible lack of perception?
Dead people don’t re-offend.
So we should just kill all the offenders to prevent violence? Makes a lot of sense. That’s like trying to stop a bleeding wound by creating another one “above” it… “Well, the good news is we stopped the bleeding that was prevalent near your Popliteal Artery, but, in order to do so we had to cut an incision into your Femoral Artery.” Somehow, I don’t think that is rational solution. You wouldn’t teach a child a lesson about violence by beating him, right? Same principle here.
And people wonder why some wish to carry concealed firearms. Maybe it never happens to innocent people? Or maybe these four knuckleheads do confront you and you make them mad? When seconds count the police are just minutes away…
Maybe if we just stop concealing fire arms and just start wearing them out in the open so many beat down wouldn’t happen. Oh…and lets start using them for things other than shooting paper targets.
I’m not much of an open carry person. Many people just fear guns in general and I so no need to cause undo alarm. Also, there are enough bone heads like these four that may see the firearm as something to steal and bum rush a less than completely alert person. No need attracting any more attention to oneself. The absolute best place for a handgun is safely tucked in a holster ready for use by a trained responsible and sober adult. If the only marks on the weapon are from training and cleaning draws, all the better.
Heres a tip: Open carry isn’t illegal in this state. And, I agree, lets start using them for things other then paper targets. In fact, I vote we start using them on anyone and anything we (as the individual) feel is wrong. Brilliant. Cant wait to see how high the bodies get before someone figures out that perhaps there is a different answer then meeting violence with violence.
Who has the right to put a price on a person’s life anyway? Apparently the government. Attempted murder should be the charge; therefore sentacing should be 25 yrs to life AT LEAST! Like this comment if you agree.
I hope these ‘men’ get attempted murder.
Unfortunately they will make a plea bargain and make deals with some of them and they will get 30 days with all but a weekend suspended or some bogus garbage like that. Maine really has too much tolerance for crime. Obviously the smack on the wrist 3 of them already had in the past for crimes convicted was not enough! They will be running the streets awaiting trial committing more felony’s and probably assault some one else.
You’re right, and that is sad.
8k bail…unreal…..they wonder why us mainers pack pieces….I’d have shot them in the head
I am sure they think they are real tough guys. But it took twice as many to inflict the damage on the two men they beat up. That is not tough, that is just being a group of cowards.
Regardless of drugs or no drugs..owned money or no owed money..NOONE DESERVES this type of brutality..Its not the first time this scum have taken this route and until they r locked up, it won’t be the last..
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Look at Brandon Summerson’s FB page. He’s done this before. Look for a picture on January 3.
Henry McKinnon shows up there as well.
Him and Henry are bragging about beating up a kid at a party. 27 and still think it’s cool. What a bunch of losers and degenerates.
Is this case really that important to you, or do you just like to stalk people charged with crimes? While his profile is public, it is still rather sad to see such activity from people not involved with the situation. Society is the mob.
They both seem like real “big men” – they need to both grow up and start taking some responsibility. Do they really think they are that cool?
In ICU with multiple broken bones, and no arrest for attempted murder? It is clear that Maine judges don’t give a damn about people who follow the rules. Why is Maine so slanted this direction? Are the judges afraid of the criminals?
Another incident that exemplifies why Central Maine is NOT the ‘way life should be’: drugs, murders, pedophiles, thugs, gambling, no economic development. I am so proud.
Hey, that sounds like everywhere in ‘Merica. How about that? Maybe its a cultural issue?
It takes a village to produce four inbred dbags like this. Nice work Howland. Hopefully the DA will grow a pair and hit them with attempted murder
Uh, OK. So because they are from a village they are this way? So basically what you are saying that all dbags are from Villages? Are you from one?
i’ve tried to reply twice but bdn won’t take the response,, talk about sensorship! anyway rick,, if you know one of these guys,, you’d know that because his dad’s who he is,, solomon is actually correct with his comment
Oh, I see the logic behind your previous comments on some of my posts. Not only are you a dullard, you also have an agenda. Thanks for inadvertently clearing that up for me,,,,, hop eye don git sensored trying 2 reply 2 this,,,, thatd suk,,,, i dunt lyke sum1’s dad,,,,, so im hear 2 badmouth his famley,,,,
Grow up. Just because someones dad is a piece of work doesnt mean thats the reason their kids are. If you really believe that, do the world a favor and dont have kids.
Excuse me dbag, Howland did not produe these morons, 3 of them you can thank the parents for because the apples didn’t fall far! However for one of them his parents have tried everything. Please don’t blame the town for these morons trust me if anyone in town could get their hands on the little cowards there would be a line a mile long!!!
wow. i cant believe some people are blaming the parents.. sorry but these boys are all of age and are responsable for there own actions.. i know henrys parents and they arent bad people.. i dont agree with the boys making bail because they arent going to learn much of a lesson but I can see being a mother myself how hard it would be to let my children stay behind bars. Charlies dad did the right thing even though it must be so damn hard. Its a tragic situation all around..
this is not self defense. give me a break. these scumbags think they are so cool. well they’ll see how cool they are sitting in prison. 80 fractures all teeth gone thats not self defense. these guys have no respect for anyone. i hope they go away for a very long time. one of them could have been something if he would have listened to his parents growing up. and no it’s not always poor parenting that causes the problem. this is sickening and i just cant wrap my head around how anyone can do such a thing to another human being. drugs or not this isnt right. aggravated assault my — thiey should be charged with attempted murder! i hope these victims recover and if they are involved in drugs clean themselves up and become productive members of society.
A big. big piece of their socialization got missed by somebody.
C’mon state of Maine, you only raised their bails by $2000. You can certainly to do better than 10,000. Set the bails higher on people who commit crimes rather than raising taxes higher for us working people.
10,00 cash bail on all of them!
So, why would bail be the same for all of them when one was convicted of assault already? That makes no sense to me. At least Gardner’s parents didn’t post bail.
Wow, I bet its much easier to get them to pay you back now ain’t it guys? Wow. Probably they will be out by the weekend on bail to go screw up again. The way life should be right guys?
If found guilty, these men need long prison sentences.
“My son Charlie has no record. He’s 20 years old and he potentially has screwed himself.” Or phrased differently: “My son Charlie now has an arrrest record, probably an upcoming criminal conviction, and thanks to a Maine jury and judge – will likely serve at least one week in jail for nearly beating a man to death. Other than that, he’s a great son – all a dad could ask for.”
Well hopefully they get some scratches in other places in Prison!
Such barbarism incites many to call for severe physical retribution. Understandably so. Several decades ago, horrible attacks on a person such as this, could have resulted in a merciless flogging.
Juxtaposed – offense versus punishment – with such punishment, as gratifying to the senses as it is, doesn’t that put us in the same archaic category as the barbarians who inflicted these vicious assaults on two victims?
Pessimists like myself, wager that the assailants will get suspended or reduced sentences. The more practical advocate hard labor, which apparently the four have managed to elude for most of their 20-odd years. But like flogging, the rock pile has gone, too.
It is understandable why some cry that they are scared to walk the streets. More so, when we’re told four husky men beat and almost killed two other men over a pill.
lmao,,,
lmao,,,,, im so dum i dun even no it,,,,,,,
don’t be so hard on yourself..
You used periods that time! Congratulations! Now, not only are you tough, but you can write at a first grade level. Good job!
Take your fight outside of this forum, please. I find both of you acting like children here. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and BDN asks that we all keep it civil. I find both of you acting extremely immature and we don’t need to be a part of your bantor. Maybe you should become friends on Facebook – isn’t that a place for you to carry on like this?
Asking direct questions in regards to what I feel are twisted morals and views on violence is not childish. I resorted to childish behavior when I was met with hostility and ignorance. How is saying that we need to ship off four people to Afghanistan to become human targets morally acceptable? Am I not justified in my stance?
at least it was more than 500 geez i hear you all it should be 50.ooo
umadbro?
Gardner’s dad is a nice guy, isn’t he? “My son has never been in trouble. Ever. But he was changed with a crime and although police have no idea if he is actually involved, Im basically going to act like I’ve disowned him.”
Guilty until proven innocent.
Maybe he knows or suspects what his son is capable of? Just because he’s never been caught doesn’t mean he hasn’t been trouble.
still, it doesn’t matter anyone in there right mind should realize putting someones life in danger because you don’t have so much more money to put towards more alchol and drugs is pathetic. sorry walking around with a weapons is classy in your eyes but it’s gonna get you chilllin in a jail cell and basically getting locked down in your house for a biit. I don’t care what anyone has to say to this, but when you know the people this happen to, you’ll have a lot to say.
Hey, Bangor Daily. think it would be a good idea to disable comments? all it ever does is cause problems. I could have told you that…. duh.
Pretty easy, if you don’t want to read them don’t click the link or scroll down.
yeah, i’m aware of that whole excuse. i just don’t think this is the place for comments. people have a heyday with tragedy.
Send them away for a long, long time. Period.
Bail? Really? Gotta love this state. Maybe the Bail commish or judge that allowed this to happen should put these fine young men up in their homes while they await trial.
Either hate crime or drugs……..there should be no bail in this case….these scumbags deserve nothing less than sitting in jail for a long time….They better hope those two men don’t die, or they are facing murder charges too……
They have to be related to some powerful people in that town to get such a small bail. If they would have been growing a little weed in the back yard they would have got $50,000 bail. They will probably get small sentences too. Another example of our backwards priorities in our judicial system
all of these comments are absolutely ridiculous and really do not apply to much. If you don’t know the people involved victim or suspect don’t make all these ridiculous assumptions. You just sound like stupid hicks.
Those injuries are caused by someone being stomped in the face repeatedly; it happened before in Bangor, again two brothers who beat a guy nearly to death; he literally had no face left when they were finished stomping on his face; criminally insane, and should be locked up forever, all of them
these 3 are scum there no need to beet people that badly they should be charged w attempted murder,they need to be put away from sociaty,
bangor and its surronding areas,worst damn holes in the united states,and the people what is in the water down therr
What fine young men.
too the few good people in bangor move away and they can build a wall around the city,keep the trash in
I suppose we should be thankful that they didn’t kill the two victims, throw them into a car and set it on fire, like was done recently in Bangor.
What a bunch of winners…………I’m sure their families are proud.
i’ve known henry for years (went to school with him) and he has ALWAYS been trouble!!! he has been in these types of situations many times before and just has NOW gotten caught!!! now,is the time to LOCK HIM UP and the idiots that follow him, it will be good for Howland to get rid of a few more low lifes for a while!!! because its guys exactly like these 4 that give this town rep. it has…plenty of more GOOD people left, just got to do a little weeding!!!
Thank you, Mr. Gardner, for doing the right thing. I remember what my former pastor told me years ago when my son was in a similar situation: “Dick, you have the rest of his life to be a good friend, right now you have to be a good father.” Tough decisions, but thank God there are people out there who are willing to make them.
I just have to say that 3 of the men behind bars have no chance of ever changing and don’t have the support of 2 wonderful parents like 1 of the men behind bars does. Charlie Gardner’s parents, Will and Ellen Gardner are two of the nicest people I’ve ever met! They have tried over and over again to help Charlie find the right path, but each time he has continued down the wrong path. Please stop blaming the parents because the Gardner’s had nothing to do with Charlie’s actions. He is an adult and should be held 100% accountable for his own actions. It goes to show you that his Dad Will, is a great guy because lord knows they could’ve bailed Charlie out, but they didn’t. I just wish that people wouldn’t jump to assumptions on here. I grew up in Howland myself. It is not a bad place, yes there are some bad apples, but the entire town is not bad.
Didn’t see anything in the article that it is 8,000 bail. Seen $10,000. Some of the remarks posted are right on and others are just so crazy. Nice that we can make remarks about the article. Some stated were you there. That is a correct statement. If you weren’t there then state what you think they should get. Don’t blame this on the parents. Yea some don’t care, some do the best they can. We know there is a lot of drugs, more so then years ago. Don’t blame parents due to the kids making the choices they make. Blame the government and those that make it impossible for us to raise our kids like they did years ago. Put the fear of God in the kids and there wouldn’t be nearly the problems we have.