Roxanne Quimby’s son cannot speak of his family’s specific plans for her land because, he says, there aren’t any.

Speaking late Tuesday night, Lucas St. Clair said that there’s one point he is sure of: Quimby’s proposal to help create a 70,000-acre national park by 2016, with another 30,000-acre multiuse recreational area, “will never be resubmitted.”

“The main piece that we want to make clear is that there is no specific proposal that we feel is the right one,” St. Clair said. “We are engaging in this collaborative effort to come up with one.”

“There are no details to flesh out at this point because we don’t have any,” he added. “We are going to work with people to find a more collaborative proposal [than the 70,000-acre national park plan], one that makes sense for more people. And what that is, is anybody’s guess at this point.”

St. Clair said he wanted to craft a plan that carried wider appeal.

He offered a telephone number, 370-5813, and invited stakeholders to call in with their ideas. It’s a number for Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., the private foundation Quimby launched in 2002 “for the acquisition and conservation of land and the preservation of open space for the benefit of the public,” according to the organization’s website, keepMEbeautiful.org.

St. Clair made news Tuesday when he announced that Quimby had withdrawn in September the proposal to the National Park Service, which is under the U.S. Department of the Interior.

A noted entrepreneur and environmentalist, Quimby in March 2009 proposed building a 70,000-acre national park on her land adjoining Baxter State Park as a gift to the nation in 2016, but the proposal ran into almost total opposition politically. Most recreation and forest products industry groups opposed it.

Support came from environmental groups such as the Sierra Club, Katahdin region businesses and the town of Medway, though a 2011 survey commissioned by a park support group found 60 percent of Mainers favored a national park.

The chief spokesman for the National Park Service, David Barna, said Wednesday that the service does not formally consider a park plan submitted until a federal delegate submits a bill seeking the creation of a park. However, the service gets informal submissions such as Quimby’s “all the time,” Barna said.

“I had one yesterday from people interested in people making [North Carolina’s] Cape Fear River a national seashore,” Barna said. “Some come in writing, some in discussions, but until there is a specific proposal before Congress,” the agency doesn’t begin its park review processes, he said.

U.S. Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both R-Maine, and U.S. Rep. Mike Michaud, D-East Millinocket, opposed Quimby’s park proposal. So did Gov. Paul LePage, the state Legislature and leaders from several towns around Quimby’s lands in northern Penobscot County.

Barna said he could not immediately find Quimby’s proposal.

St. Clair relocated to Cumberland County last month from Seattle, where he, his wife and their child had lived for seven years, to be closer to family and to help lead the effort to determine what usage of Quimby’s lands best meets public needs and her goals, he said.

He said he expects to do several months of outreach — meeting with potential stakeholders and leaders in the recreation, tourism and business communities — to reformulate a plan. He cautioned against setting deadlines to the process.

“We don’t really have a timeline. We are just continuing our outreach day by day,” St. Clair said.

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  1. We need less communal land and more private property. Private property is the foundation of public justice.

    1. around 6% of the state of Maine is public land (State or Federally controlled). Maine is in the bottom 10 states for percentage of public land.

  2. I doubt Quimby has dropped this. Probably just trying a different tack. If she really had 60% of the populace behind her, I don’t think she’d switch direction.

    1. Well…they said they will drop the plan to do it by 2016. Nothing in that statement suggests that they won’t introduce a plan to do it at a later date.

    2. She will try something with it, she wants to control what happens to this land, but does not want to pay taxes on it!

        1. Please, go get a real life ! Roxy’s gonna make out like a bandit either way. If she sells it to the Fed’s for a Park she pay’s only a small percentage of the selling price as taxes and has a write off for the difference. She outrights donates the land and she gets a 100% wrtie-off of the land’s determined value AT TIME OF DONATION and dosen’t have to pay a penny in taxes to the Fed’s or Maine. Either way Roxy’s tax liability is going to be below the radar for the next 30 years.

          1. I dont think Roxanne stays awake at night worrying about paying taxes on her land. She isnt spending millions of dollars on land to save on taxes, Roxanne pays taxes on her lands in the same manner every other large landowner does.

  3. What good is the land if it can’t be enjoyed.. At any Presidents whim they can sell off the natural resources of a National Park.. The State of Maine logs it’s forest lands all the time. Federal Government or the State shouldn’t be in the land ownership business.

  4. I think “The family” should go to the middle of their land, build a primitive camp with no utilities and an outhouse. Then Roxy can take her “new money” and return to her roots like when she was living with Burt.

    1. She certainly has her own money, but I really wonder how much other money was given to “help” the park get created. I don’t think we’ve heard the last of this.

  5. Quimby has taken more flak from yahoos in this forum (and probably elsewhere) than anyone I have ever seen in Maine–all because she was trying to save the land and give the locals a better life.

    You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.

    1. Even Governor Baxter wanted people to enjoy the land. Unfortunately they seem to forget how his Deeds of Trust read. Gates were not put up there until after he died. I can not say the same for Quimby. This is probably just another ruse.

    2. I do not feel her intentions are as grand or for the benefit of the people of this state! Winter Harbor is a great example, she over paid for properties, driving up the home sale prices, tearing many of the homes down and then because of the overpayment it drove prices too high for the locals to purchase land/homes in their home town!

  6. Hey St. Clair, sweet necklace bro. It must be the one I’m missing from my box of mid-90s middle school fashion mistakes.

  7. I hope she develops it for gated communities inhabited by Flatlanders and posts the whole shebang.

    Yessah

  8. “reformulate a plan” 70,000-acre national park by 2016, with another 30,000-acre multiuse recreational area, “will never be resubmitted” Awful lot said in those statements.

  9. There will be a park. It’s only a matter of time. The area to the east of Katahdin has the most spectacular viewsheds in the Eastern U.S.

  10. And you wonder why Maine is in such dire straights………All you have to do is read this forum and you realize that Maine likes to whine…..and whine….who wants to be around people who whine all the time….No wonder young people are leaving Maine in droves……You know if a lot of you weren’t bashing Roxie than you would be bashing someone else until you are happy….Your just not happy unless your whining…..So please grown up….get a life…….NO ONE LIKES A WHINER!

    1. So you concider having an opinion Bashing.. I understand this is a private forum and is modorated so the freedom of speech doesn’t count here, but for you to think only your opinion matters is sick.. I would prefer people expressing their feeling in this manner then to actually act on it.. So you whined in your anti whining rant, how funny..

  11. That would be so nice if it were true. As a property owner in the area of the queen bee’s purchases, we would dearly love to see the whole thing go away. However, sad to say, it is her land and she should be able to do whatever she wants to. I fail to understand why she does’t put up signs says “Quimby’s Wild Life Reserve” and call it good. It must be a tax thing and she is looking to make a little money on the whole deal.

  12. I Think this is a good step forward. Having it become a national park would have taken the control out of the hands of Roxanne and Lucas and anything local.. I Think that she will now be able to create her own version of what she and Lucas want.. Very Nice indeed!!!. They are part of the community now.. As for National Parks that are subject to the whims of every President, we as a whole are better off without them.

  13. Good point, ConMeGuy! I agree.

    Quimby has been pushing this for far, far too long to EVER give up. She actually has stated this too many times to count. Roxanne Quimby has been working with RESTORE for many, many years. Though she would like us to forget about that and only see the “gift” she wants to make of her 70,000+ acres, WE KNOW IT IS REALLY ABOUT THE 3.2 MILLION ACRES FOR RESTORE.

    http://www.restore.org/Maine/News/americans_release.html

    “Formation of the committee has been coordinated by RESTORE, which began the campaign to create the Maine Woods National Park and Preserve in 1994.”

    For what it’s worth, here is your chance to let them know what you think. Though I truly don’t believe it matters to them as they already have a plan/agenda in play.

    Disappointing to see that the petition which was circulated around Medway to allow citizens the opportunity to actually and individually vote on whether or not they support this was not followed through. Rather insulting to those who took the time to sign. Makes one wonder why the person who circulated it did so since others would have gladly done so- AND SUBMITTED IT to selectmen. So, we are stuck with Sambides continuing to list Medway as “supporting” Quimby. Then again, Sambides never does let facts get in the way of his sensationalizing his “stories”.

    Nick also conveniently always forgets to mention the 60% support in a poll is actually a poll of 600 random phone calls. Sorry, but 60% of 600 people does not speak for the entire state.

    Here is a bit of “history” with Quimby and her land-

    http://preservemainetraditions.com/unanswered-questions/

    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

  14. Ok, you uneducated miserable close minded people. Roxanne Quimby is a great person with a wonderful vision. Roxanne and her family want the best possible use for the land that they own. The best possible use for the land is to preserve it. Period. A national park is the best way to do this. She shouldn’t have to pay taxes on this land if its going to be used for conservation and preservation.

  15. The “papermill mentality” of the Katahdin Region has got to stop. Unite as one people, instead of thinking that you are better than others that don’t have a mill job. Who would want to work in a place that has such an uncertain future. Expand your minds, go to school, graduate, come back to the region and start a business. That’s what we need. Yes, i’m a Roxanne fan. An educated one with an open mind.

    1. Anyone who has been paying the least bit of attention would know the mill is going to be lucky to see 2013’s ball fall. They’ll never see the light here. In 14 yrs they haven’t learned and this is what the 4th time in 14 yrs? That said a National Park is not the answer.

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